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Brewers could win (and this time I mean it)

Posted on: December 20, 2010 5:22 pm
Don't ask me if the Zack Greinke trade makes the Brewers the favorite to win the National League Central.

I'm the idiot that picked the Brewers to win the Central last year.

So yeah, if you take the flawed team that I thought could win, then add Greinke and Shaun Marcum, I'm ready to pick the Brewers again.

This time, I won't be alone. This time, I might even be right.

"I think Cincinnati's much better than St. Louis," one veteran National League executive said today. "And I think Milwaukee's better than Cincinnati."

That opinion isn't near unanimous among baseball people. A quick survey of scouts and executives had quite a few favoring the Reds to repeat, and some even suggesting that the Cubs could win, if their young players develop.

But not surprisingly, every scout I talked to thought that the twin trades for pitching make the Brewers into a team that could win.

"I think they're a legitimate contender," one American League scout said. "I really think Marcum will solidify their rotation. He'll go out and give them seven innings basically every time out. He's a lot like Bronson Arroyo, coming over from the American League."

Arroyo came to the Reds in 2006, coming off a season where he went 14-10 with a 4.51 ERA for the Red Sox. He's 70-60 in five years with the Reds, with a combined ERA of 3.97.

This past year, when the Reds won the Central, Arroyo went 17-10.

Marcum, who was the Blue Jays' opening day starter in 2010, went 13-8 with a 3.64 ERA. Getting out of the AL East could help; he was 1-6 with a 5.64 ERA in 10 starts against the Rays, Red Sox and Yankees, and 12-2 with a 2.72 ERA in 21 starts against everyone else.

Coming to the Brewers should also help Greinke, even though Miller Park is much less favorable to pitchers than Kansas City's Kauffman Stadium. Greinke sometimes seemed disinterested in pitching for the sad-sack Royals in 2010, and in an interview today with the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel , he admitted that he waived his no-trade clause to accept the deal with the Brewers because he was convinced that Milwaukee is now trying to win.

"Greinke can win in any park, if he wants to," one scout said. "He's a No. 1, if he wants to be. On good days, right-handed hitters don't have a chance against him, and lefties don't have much of a chance, either."

With Greinke and Marcum, the Brewers now have a real chance.

Take it from me . . . and from a few guys who were smart enough not to pick them to win in 2010.

Since: Apr 9, 2010
Posted on: December 21, 2010 5:31 am

Brewers could win (and this time I mean it)

I'm sure Grienke will do very well in the NL and I may be biased, but the Cardinals are still the gold standard. Yes the Reds did very well this year and Votto had a career year, but can they do it again? The pitching was just good enough to get them by. I think the Cardinals come back and win the division this year behind a hopefully, more healthy team. David Freese will be back, our youngsters like John Jay and Colby Rasmus will be older. We acquired Ryan Theriot and Lance Berkman as well. I think Ryan stabilizes our infield and Berkman's switch bat will be nice in our lineup that still includes Albert Pujols and Matt Holliday. We also have two horses in Adam Wainwright and Chris Carpenter and don't forget about Jaime Garcia who had a phenomonel year as well.

Since: Dec 12, 2010
Posted on: December 21, 2010 3:28 am

Brewers could win (and this time I mean it)

Um, Barnstormer...Marcum is Right-handed.  The picture shown is correctly oriented.  He is also an excellent pitcher, but not a power arm (he has a plus change-up with a fastball of 88-90, plus control, and a decent breaking ball).  He will do well in the NL.

Since: May 22, 2010
Posted on: December 21, 2010 3:15 am

Brewers could win (and this time I mean it)

Even if they win the division there is no way they can get past the phillies. They gave up way to many young guys for a year that will almost positively go to either the Phillies or Redsox. they will surely regret it in a few years.

Since: Mar 24, 2010
Posted on: December 21, 2010 1:16 am

Brewers could win (and this time I mean it)

10 lbs.. too fat to pitch. are u serious? another reds fan in denial

Since: Aug 22, 2007
Posted on: December 21, 2010 12:11 am

Brewers could win (and this time I mean it)

let them talk all the smack they want.....greinke will likely have a nervous breakdown, and marcum will gain 10 more lbs and be too fat to pitch every 5th day. the brewers don't have the defense and hitting to win the division anyway.

its looking like the reds and cards again, my vote goes to the reds due to their combination of youth, defense and pitching.

Since: Jan 22, 2008
Posted on: December 20, 2010 11:08 pm

Brewers could win (and this time I mean it)

Don't forget McGehee and Weeks. 

Since: Jul 20, 2008
Posted on: December 20, 2010 10:58 pm

Brewers could win (and this time I mean it)

Nobody knows anything about Shaun Marcum. Even his picture is reversed in the article and no-one bats an eye. Well, believe me, you'll know about him soon. He is a bulldog. A real leader.
I hope Greinke does well in Milwaukee. I'm not convinced that he'll ever repeat his career year, but he should be a very solid pitcher for a long time.

Since: Dec 5, 2009
Posted on: December 20, 2010 10:13 pm

Brewers could win (and this time I mean it)

Do we even know how Greinke will respond to a pennant race? Of course we don't. He was on the Royals. And as nice as their rotation is, I'd still take Carpenter, Wainwright and Garcia.

How did Garcia respond to a pennant race again? In September, he was 1-2 with a 5.94 ERA and a 1.56 WHIP. His ERA climbed by 1.36 in the second half as a whole.

How did Carpenter respond to the pennant race? In September he was 2-4 with a 4.78 ERA.

At least Wainwright was good in September, although, it was his worst month statistically of the season.

Now, I'm not saying that Grienke, Gallardo and Marcum are as good as those three, but the least you can do is try to find a stat that is relevant to your argument.

Since: May 17, 2007
Posted on: December 20, 2010 9:32 pm

Brewers could win (and this time I mean it)

The day Knobler actually identifies some of the "an executive told me" with real names, I will take him seriously.
Otherwise, he's writing this stuff off the cuff and pretending he interviewed somebody. When you gonna quote real people, Danny?

Since: Mar 18, 2009
Posted on: December 20, 2010 8:43 pm

Brewers could win (and this time I mean it)

The Brewers have had an awful rotation for years and this is a pretty good start to the '11 season.  Greinke, Gallardo, Marcum and Wolf make the staff the best it's been in a long, long time.  They might even be able to not waste the offence supplied by Fielder, Braun (and dare I say) Hart.  I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do!!

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