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Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:05 am
You don't embarrass your stars, even when they're fading.

You don't slap your stars in the face, even when they're wrong.

Jorge Posada was wrong to ask out of the lineup, from everything we can tell from Saturday's madness at Yankee Stadium. But the Yankees have been wrong on Posada all year.

They've mishandled this in almost every way possible, and it makes you wonder even more how the next 2 1/2 years will go with Derek Jeter.

And don't think Jeter hasn't noticed what the Yankees have done to his friend.

What exactly did they do?

First, they told him he would never, under any circumstances, catch so much as an inning -- or even a bullpen session. They had Gustavo Molina (.228 career batting average) catch three games, just so they could avoid putting Posada behind the plate. On opening day, manager Joe Girardi said that Posada would "probably" be his emergency catcher, ahead of utility infielder Eduardo Nunez.

Then, on Saturday, Girardi put the struggling Posada in the ninth spot in the batting order, for the first time in 12 years. Even with Posada's .165 average this year, it was such a drastic move that the only reason to do it would be to embarrass him.

Benching him would have been a better option. Tell everyone -- and tell him -- that you think he needs a few days away.

Don't drop him to ninth, on national television, with the Red Sox in town. Not unless your goal is to embarrass him.

I checked with a few people in baseball Saturday night, asking for their thoughts. And their thoughts were the same as my thoughts.

"To Posada, who has had a great career, it's a personal slap in the face to hit ninth," said one former big-league manager. "Hit [Brett] Gardner ninth. Girardi has to understand that Posada's got more friends on that team than [Girardi] does."

Yes, I know, Posada said publicly -- before and after the game -- that hitting ninth wasn't an issue, and that it wasn't why he asked out of the lineup.

I remember another proud player saying that being dropped in the batting order didn't bother him, then going up to the plate and telling everyone he would take three straight strikes (which he did).

My guess is that tempers will cool down and that Girardi and Posada will come to some sort of understanding, and that if Posada starts hitting he'll keep playing.

Girardi seemed to be heading in that direction after the game (a 6-0 loss to the Red Sox that dropped the Yankees out of a playoff position), to the point of saying that Posada told him in their brief pregame meeting that he just "needed a day."

"Sometimes we need a day to clear our head, and take a deep breath," Girardi said.

Posada also seemed to be heading towards mending fences. He also used the line about "needing time," although he inexplicably brought up the idea that his back was stiff.

But he also said, "I still want to be here. I love playing, and I love playing for this organization."

Posada saved his venom for general manager Brian Cashman, complaining that Cashman would choose to go on television to discuss the situation during the game.

"That's the way he works right now," Posada said.

Fortunately, a player-GM relationship isn't crucial, as the Rangers will tell you. Has it hurt them one bit that Michael Young doesn’t like Jon Daniels?

Yes, Young is hitting .351, not .165. But it's also true that Rangers manager Ron Washington has already had Young start 13 games in the field.

How a manager handles his stars, fading or otherwise, is absolutely crucial, because every other player in the clubhouse is watching. It's why Red Sox manager Terry Francona consistently stood behind David Ortiz during Ortiz's horrid starts the last two years.

Francona did drop Ortiz as far as seventh in the order, but he made sure Ortiz knew he was appreciated.

It's no surprise that it was Ortiz who said Saturday of the Yankees and Posada (according to the Boston Herald): "They're doing that guy wrong."

Ortiz is right, even if in this instance, Posada was wrong.

The Yankees have been doing that guy wrong.

He may be a fading star, but he's still a star.

And you don't embarrass your stars, even when they're fading.

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Since: Apr 6, 2010
Posted on: May 15, 2011 1:12 am
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Since: Mar 7, 2007
Posted on: May 15, 2011 1:05 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

This writer has embarrassed himself for the last time. . .for ME. Knobler? I will NOT be reading what he has to say again.  It is nonsense.  It is worthless.  If Jorge Posada says that hitting 9th was not the issue when he opted out of Saturday's game, I believe him.  For one thing, why would he care?  Hitting 9th is no big deal.  A professional is just glad to be in the lineup, wherever.  He is still going to get the same number of ABs, more or less.
"Don't drop him to ninth, on national television, with the in town. Not unless your goal is to embarrass him."
This is such a stupid statement.  It tells me that the writer does'nt even know the sport.
Hey, it's Jorge Posada.  He has been catching on the team for many years.  He is used to playing wherever and whenever the manager so chooses.  P.S. he is NOT one of the team's "stars" as Knobler kept alledging.   A pretty good hitter, yes, but NOT one of the stars.  He makes out like Posada is being pouty when all he is doing is being embarrassed about his own hitting.  If anyone needs to be dropped from the lineup it is knobler.

Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:55 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Teams like the Marlins
The Marlins have a better record than the Yankees and Posada would sit behind Buck on that team right now.

Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:44 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Posada needs to hit better than .165, their current catcher bats well over .200, Jones the DH for tonight does too. This is about winning games and shuffling the lineup to give the team the best chance to win. If Posada was embarrassed, think of the 6-0 loss they had tonight and how embarrassing that was ? While I agree that players go thru slumps, they also get shuffled in the batting order. My favorite team, the Phillies seem to have hitting issues and injury issues. Manuel shuffles players in and out of the lineup daily, sometimes not by choice even but because a player limps off the field. Phillies are fortunate to have the best record in the MLB. Manuel is managing, let Girardi have that same luxury too. And the Red Sox, well, they moved Crawford around. BTW, Varitek is batting .164 too and bats what position, you guessed it, 9th, you don't hear him say he doesn't want to play. Jones was a hitting upgrade tonight for the Yankees. Posada needs to get over it. The Yankees are sliding right now, 2 teams that were the worst in MLB at the start of the season are now either in front of the Yankees or within striking distance of passing them.

Since: Jun 8, 2010
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:42 am

Yanks Should Have Retired Jorge Posada

The greatest sports franchise ever (over time), can't see this coming?  Simply amazing.  Laughing
 Yankees C/DH  was scratched from the team's starting lineup shortly before Saturday's game against Boston. The slumping veteran was slated to hit ninth in the batting order for the first time since, coincidentally, May 14, 1999. During the second inning of the game, New York general manager Brian Cashman told Fox Sports that Posada had pulled himself from the lineup and did not comment any further.  served as the designated hitter. 
 (Andruw "my parents couldn't spell a lick" Jones has to take his place? No that's truly humiliating/humbling.)

Since: Jan 23, 2007
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:41 am

Posada needs a change of scenary

It's clear he still wants to catch. While no longer an All Star he can still be a quality major league day to day catcher. Teams like the Marlins should place a call to the Yankees.

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:22 am

Posada embarrassed himself

No, Knobler, you're wrong. The Yankees have been doing the job well. If Posada can't catch anymore, then he can't catch. Why should the Yankees put him behind the plate if they don't think he can get the job done? That makes no sense.

Second, what is so bad about hitting ninth? Is Posada's ego that fragile? I once saw a high school softball player ask her coach to bat her last even though she was one of the team's stronger hitters because she wanted the team to be strong 1 through 9. You're telling me a 16-year old girl is tougher than Posada, and the Yankees are somehow wrong? Give me a break.

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