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Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:05 am
You don't embarrass your stars, even when they're fading.

You don't slap your stars in the face, even when they're wrong.

Jorge Posada was wrong to ask out of the lineup, from everything we can tell from Saturday's madness at Yankee Stadium. But the Yankees have been wrong on Posada all year.

They've mishandled this in almost every way possible, and it makes you wonder even more how the next 2 1/2 years will go with Derek Jeter.

And don't think Jeter hasn't noticed what the Yankees have done to his friend.

What exactly did they do?

First, they told him he would never, under any circumstances, catch so much as an inning -- or even a bullpen session. They had Gustavo Molina (.228 career batting average) catch three games, just so they could avoid putting Posada behind the plate. On opening day, manager Joe Girardi said that Posada would "probably" be his emergency catcher, ahead of utility infielder Eduardo Nunez.

Then, on Saturday, Girardi put the struggling Posada in the ninth spot in the batting order, for the first time in 12 years. Even with Posada's .165 average this year, it was such a drastic move that the only reason to do it would be to embarrass him.

Benching him would have been a better option. Tell everyone -- and tell him -- that you think he needs a few days away.

Don't drop him to ninth, on national television, with the Red Sox in town. Not unless your goal is to embarrass him.

I checked with a few people in baseball Saturday night, asking for their thoughts. And their thoughts were the same as my thoughts.

"To Posada, who has had a great career, it's a personal slap in the face to hit ninth," said one former big-league manager. "Hit [Brett] Gardner ninth. Girardi has to understand that Posada's got more friends on that team than [Girardi] does."

Yes, I know, Posada said publicly -- before and after the game -- that hitting ninth wasn't an issue, and that it wasn't why he asked out of the lineup.

I remember another proud player saying that being dropped in the batting order didn't bother him, then going up to the plate and telling everyone he would take three straight strikes (which he did).

My guess is that tempers will cool down and that Girardi and Posada will come to some sort of understanding, and that if Posada starts hitting he'll keep playing.

Girardi seemed to be heading in that direction after the game (a 6-0 loss to the Red Sox that dropped the Yankees out of a playoff position), to the point of saying that Posada told him in their brief pregame meeting that he just "needed a day."

"Sometimes we need a day to clear our head, and take a deep breath," Girardi said.

Posada also seemed to be heading towards mending fences. He also used the line about "needing time," although he inexplicably brought up the idea that his back was stiff.

But he also said, "I still want to be here. I love playing, and I love playing for this organization."

Posada saved his venom for general manager Brian Cashman, complaining that Cashman would choose to go on television to discuss the situation during the game.

"That's the way he works right now," Posada said.

Fortunately, a player-GM relationship isn't crucial, as the Rangers will tell you. Has it hurt them one bit that Michael Young doesn’t like Jon Daniels?

Yes, Young is hitting .351, not .165. But it's also true that Rangers manager Ron Washington has already had Young start 13 games in the field.

How a manager handles his stars, fading or otherwise, is absolutely crucial, because every other player in the clubhouse is watching. It's why Red Sox manager Terry Francona consistently stood behind David Ortiz during Ortiz's horrid starts the last two years.

Francona did drop Ortiz as far as seventh in the order, but he made sure Ortiz knew he was appreciated.

It's no surprise that it was Ortiz who said Saturday of the Yankees and Posada (according to the Boston Herald): "They're doing that guy wrong."

Ortiz is right, even if in this instance, Posada was wrong.

The Yankees have been doing that guy wrong.

He may be a fading star, but he's still a star.

And you don't embarrass your stars, even when they're fading.

Category: MLB

Since: Feb 25, 2008
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:56 pm

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

jeter is next..lets see how that egomaniac handles it..he should be hitting 9th 

Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:49 pm

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

If Posada was on any other team he would be another mediocre catcher.  He is not a star.  He sucks.  Deal with it.

Since: Oct 9, 2008
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:47 pm

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Please. Last time I checked, Girardi was the guy in charge.

I'm sick and tired of every single athlete thinking they have a legacy. It's a job, boys. And you still have to produce. If you don't, the boss makes a decision of what's best for your entire team... not your fragile ego.

What you've done in the past should be respected, but not revered. When you're hitting .165 - and if you TRULY have pride - you either walk away from the game or keep your mouth shut and do your job.

Sorry Jorge. Sorry Knobler. You're both wrong on this. Dead wrong.

Since: Aug 12, 2010
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:42 pm

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Open your eyes.  The Yankees haven't hit dick this year and until they do, they will lose.  It isn't just Posada, it is most of the lineup.

Since: Aug 12, 2010
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:36 pm

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Jorge should retire.  He didn't have a problem forcing NY through the media to give him 4 years.  He is NOT the player he used to be.  The Yankees need to find Jesus!!!  Jesus Montero would give his left arm to DH and bat 9th in this lineup.  Graciousness is missing from a guy who is receiving more than he deserves.  He deserves to be cut.  I do believe he should be the back up catcher, but how would he have reacted to that if he was like this when they dropped him to 9th in the order.  Just pack his suitcase for him and tell him to go back to his Tampa mansion.  As for Jeter and watching how this plays out.  You bet he is, and if Posada cries and gets his way, when it comes time for Jeter to be dropped to 8th or 9th in the order, which isn't far off, he will cry and get his way too.  These two players have taken similar paths.  Yankees need to play hardball with these guys.  They do not have the luxury of letting fading stars fill a spot in a prime position or slot.  They are expected to win each year and sometimes difficult decisions need to be made.  The decision here is to drop Posada to the bench and call up Montero to fill the DH role.  Winners make the tough calls.

Since: Aug 21, 2007
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:35 pm

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Joe is paid by the Yankees to win games, period.  He is not there to care for aging former stars and their ego.  The fact is if he wasn't Posada and was hitting .165 he wouldn't be in the line up at all at DH, he can't catch at a high level anymore.  The Yankees organization was wrong to sign him back... they should have thanked him for his many years of hard work and let him go, instead they over pay him and he is no good anymore.  But to say Girrardi is treating the guy unfairly for not putting him at a posstion he can't field anymore and batting him at a spot which mhis performance dicates is not wrong, he is just doing HIS job, and if Posada gets past it and starts hitting I'm sure he will be moved up.

Since: Sep 8, 2007
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:23 pm

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

 It's a team game, and if the manager thinks the best thing for the team is for him to bat 9th, then that's where he bats. Hitting .165 and expecting to bat anywhere but 9th is the insult, not the other way around.

Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:20 pm

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

This machine in New york is too big for Girardi to be managing.Girardi's lack of leadership is catching up  to him AGAIN. This team should be VERY concerned about their starting pitching ...not a 39yr old catcher who couldn't hit sand if he fell off a camel right now! Where is Torre?

Since: Sep 6, 2007
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:14 pm

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

booo hooo cry me a river Posada!
This guy for all that he's done good, has done twice as much bad for the Yankees over his career.
If it weren't for the fact that he was Jeter's best friend he wouldn't have been around this long!
The Yankees win the WS in '96 w/ Girardi, '98,'99 and 2000 despite Posada and nothing for 9 more years w/ Posada handling a pitching staff with countless ALL-STARS.
Guys like K. Brown, R. Johnson, C. Pavano, J. Vasquez, all coming off excellent season's come to the Yanks the next year and suck. Basically they all wanted a personal catcher...anyone except Posada, that should tell you something! The most recent case AJ Burnett...pitching alot better w/ R. Martin this year, coincidence, I doubt it! He never could catch Mariano Rivera, countless games he gave away w/ passed balls in the 9th inning.
I've always said it for years that the Yanks would have won at least 5 more WS with a capable catcher, people always looked at me weird, but I for one saw what the Yankee brass finally see's.
Posada=good switch hitter w/ power (perfect DH)
Posada= terrible catcher that countless ACES have thrown under the bus because he deserved it!
I think he can help the Yanks at DH, but if he is gonna be a Diva and cry about Girardi shaking up the line-up then good riddens, don't let the door knob hit ya where the good lord split ya!!

Since: Jul 17, 2008
Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:11 pm

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Jorge is one of the few Yanks I like, and I think a big part of the problem is CASHMAN.  Really who could'nt do his job?  200 Mil, god a retard to build up a roster with that amount of money.  If the Yanks really wanted to make their organization work well they would drop Cashman and get  G.M. who understands how to work with people.

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