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Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:05 am
You don't embarrass your stars, even when they're fading.

You don't slap your stars in the face, even when they're wrong.

Jorge Posada was wrong to ask out of the lineup, from everything we can tell from Saturday's madness at Yankee Stadium. But the Yankees have been wrong on Posada all year.

They've mishandled this in almost every way possible, and it makes you wonder even more how the next 2 1/2 years will go with Derek Jeter.

And don't think Jeter hasn't noticed what the Yankees have done to his friend.

What exactly did they do?

First, they told him he would never, under any circumstances, catch so much as an inning -- or even a bullpen session. They had Gustavo Molina (.228 career batting average) catch three games, just so they could avoid putting Posada behind the plate. On opening day, manager Joe Girardi said that Posada would "probably" be his emergency catcher, ahead of utility infielder Eduardo Nunez.

Then, on Saturday, Girardi put the struggling Posada in the ninth spot in the batting order, for the first time in 12 years. Even with Posada's .165 average this year, it was such a drastic move that the only reason to do it would be to embarrass him.

Benching him would have been a better option. Tell everyone -- and tell him -- that you think he needs a few days away.

Don't drop him to ninth, on national television, with the Red Sox in town. Not unless your goal is to embarrass him.

I checked with a few people in baseball Saturday night, asking for their thoughts. And their thoughts were the same as my thoughts.

"To Posada, who has had a great career, it's a personal slap in the face to hit ninth," said one former big-league manager. "Hit [Brett] Gardner ninth. Girardi has to understand that Posada's got more friends on that team than [Girardi] does."

Yes, I know, Posada said publicly -- before and after the game -- that hitting ninth wasn't an issue, and that it wasn't why he asked out of the lineup.

I remember another proud player saying that being dropped in the batting order didn't bother him, then going up to the plate and telling everyone he would take three straight strikes (which he did).

My guess is that tempers will cool down and that Girardi and Posada will come to some sort of understanding, and that if Posada starts hitting he'll keep playing.

Girardi seemed to be heading in that direction after the game (a 6-0 loss to the Red Sox that dropped the Yankees out of a playoff position), to the point of saying that Posada told him in their brief pregame meeting that he just "needed a day."

"Sometimes we need a day to clear our head, and take a deep breath," Girardi said.

Posada also seemed to be heading towards mending fences. He also used the line about "needing time," although he inexplicably brought up the idea that his back was stiff.

But he also said, "I still want to be here. I love playing, and I love playing for this organization."

Posada saved his venom for general manager Brian Cashman, complaining that Cashman would choose to go on television to discuss the situation during the game.

"That's the way he works right now," Posada said.

Fortunately, a player-GM relationship isn't crucial, as the Rangers will tell you. Has it hurt them one bit that Michael Young doesn’t like Jon Daniels?

Yes, Young is hitting .351, not .165. But it's also true that Rangers manager Ron Washington has already had Young start 13 games in the field.

How a manager handles his stars, fading or otherwise, is absolutely crucial, because every other player in the clubhouse is watching. It's why Red Sox manager Terry Francona consistently stood behind David Ortiz during Ortiz's horrid starts the last two years.

Francona did drop Ortiz as far as seventh in the order, but he made sure Ortiz knew he was appreciated.

It's no surprise that it was Ortiz who said Saturday of the Yankees and Posada (according to the Boston Herald): "They're doing that guy wrong."

Ortiz is right, even if in this instance, Posada was wrong.

The Yankees have been doing that guy wrong.

He may be a fading star, but he's still a star.

And you don't embarrass your stars, even when they're fading.

Category: MLB

Since: Feb 5, 2011
Posted on: May 15, 2011 11:28 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

All sides are at fault in this debacle and there is no sugar coating it.
I agree completely with you, and couldn't have said it better.

Jorge was 100% wrong for opting out of the game last night against Boston, but Yankee management has mismanaged every aspect of this situation from the start. Yes, Jorge is struggling at the plate. Yes, he is under contract and making a lot of money, but for Girardi to handle Posada in the manner that he has, is unconscionable. After signing Jorge to a new contract, telling him that he will never catch again, that he will only play as a DH, and that he won't even be allowed to catch batting practice, is an insult to the man and is an embarassment to the Yankee organization.

This deterioration between players and management has been evident going back to the Joe Torre departure. I wasn't thrilled with Joe Girardi replacing Torre, and let's get one thing straight, the Yankees won the 2009 series in spite of Girardi, not because of him. Then, after winning the series, Yankee management promptly release Damon & Matsui (World Series MVP). More tension was evident during the contract negotiations with Jeter, Posada, and Rivera. Fortunately, Pettitte retired or it might have been even worse.

I will not try to defend Posada's actions. In my opinion, he was wrong, but Cashman lost my respect and Girardi never had it as a manager. The NY Yankees are in turmoil right now and changes need to be made. Let's start at the top with Cashman & Girardi. 

It's time for management to understand that fans don't want to see respected team players handled unprofessionally. Player performance issues need to be dealt with by the player and the manager. Jorge may not have liked batting 9th in the lineup, but as a professional, he had an obligation to the team. Girardi had an obligation to handle this like a true manager, and he blew it.

I hope this situation can be resolved quickly and quietly, and that the Yankees can get back to focusing on winning games. That's what it's all about, and that's what the fans expect. I don't see that happening with 'Clueless Joe' at the helm. Despite being a lifelong Yankee fan for over 40 years, I have decided not to further support this organization until the management issues are fixed. Replacing Joe Girardi would be a good start.

Since: Oct 15, 2007
Posted on: May 15, 2011 11:27 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

I'll bat 9th in the Yankee lineup for $130,000.00 a year.Where do I sign?

Since: Oct 24, 2006
Posted on: May 15, 2011 11:06 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

You know there are many people who would give anything (especisally minor leaguers)
to make $13,000,000 a year and bat 9th in the line-up. What ever happened to something
called "team play" and one for the gipper attitute. At 40 years of age he should be happy
wearing the pinstripes because as a previous writer mentioned if the boss was in charge,
he would not tolerate such action. If you want to play as a team and there
is NO "I" in team.

Since: Nov 7, 2006
Posted on: May 15, 2011 10:56 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Jorge is a piece of garbage.

Since: Jul 7, 2007
Posted on: May 15, 2011 10:55 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Posada should be thankful for a job at this point.  That doesn't mean the Yankees haven't mistreated or embarrassed him, but he can always retire if he really feels this way.  As for those saying the Yankees should trade him, name one team that might think they'd benefit from having a sub-Mendoza hitter who can't get on the field.  The only option for Jorge is retirement.  The only option for the Yankees is to release him.

Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: May 15, 2011 10:39 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

I have to wonder what the The Boss would say if he were still around. My guess is by noon today Posada would be a Mariner. He may be one of the best hitting catchers of all time but he never was that good of a defensive catcher and due to his hotheaded whiney bitch attitude (which he has had since birth) he was never that good at managing the pitching staff (ie Randy Johnson). He could hit and that was all. This last contract was a GIFT for all he contributed in winning those championships. There is your loyalty to "your star" but where is his to his team or more so his EMPLOYER. Once they lined his pockets and said thanks his JOB is to do what ever gives the team the best chance win whether it's batting ninth, sitting out, or doing a rain dance in the paking lot.

Since: Apr 19, 2009
Posted on: May 15, 2011 10:37 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Knobler = idiot!!
So poor jorge gets dropped to ninth becaue he's hitting .160.
The big baby got his feelings hurt.
He shouldn't even be in the line-up in the first place with that avg..
Time for the yankees to move on from jorge posada.
Hey danny, you've got posada on the fantasy team, dont' ya?  

Since: Aug 18, 2008
Posted on: May 15, 2011 10:30 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Knob-gobbler, who the hell were you "talking" to?  The mirror?  Your reflection in a coy pond?  Gimme a break.  Somebody has to bat ninth and Posada, with his below .200 average, is lucky enough to be making millions of dollars to attempt to swing a bat at a ball on national television for a living.  Quit making s**t up and pretending you have friends or acquaintances to talk to when it's really your lipstick covered hand.

Since: Jan 15, 2008
Posted on: May 15, 2011 10:27 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Laserrocket1........... I couldn't have said it better myself. That goes for any professional athlete no matter what team they play for. Many of these athletes have no idea how fortunate they are to be making this kind of money.

Since: Aug 17, 2007
Posted on: May 15, 2011 10:19 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way


This person is an idiot! Posada is batting .166! He shouldn't even be in the lineup! Heck I would cut him if it were up to me! Joe was nice enough to keep him in the lineup but dropped him to 9th! Posada said after the game that he asked out because of other reasons besides that, he said he deserves the demotion!

This  blogger evidentally doesn't know what he's talking about. It appears he is another Yankee hater!

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