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Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Posted on: May 15, 2011 12:05 am
You don't embarrass your stars, even when they're fading.

You don't slap your stars in the face, even when they're wrong.

Jorge Posada was wrong to ask out of the lineup, from everything we can tell from Saturday's madness at Yankee Stadium. But the Yankees have been wrong on Posada all year.

They've mishandled this in almost every way possible, and it makes you wonder even more how the next 2 1/2 years will go with Derek Jeter.

And don't think Jeter hasn't noticed what the Yankees have done to his friend.

What exactly did they do?

First, they told him he would never, under any circumstances, catch so much as an inning -- or even a bullpen session. They had Gustavo Molina (.228 career batting average) catch three games, just so they could avoid putting Posada behind the plate. On opening day, manager Joe Girardi said that Posada would "probably" be his emergency catcher, ahead of utility infielder Eduardo Nunez.

Then, on Saturday, Girardi put the struggling Posada in the ninth spot in the batting order, for the first time in 12 years. Even with Posada's .165 average this year, it was such a drastic move that the only reason to do it would be to embarrass him.

Benching him would have been a better option. Tell everyone -- and tell him -- that you think he needs a few days away.

Don't drop him to ninth, on national television, with the Red Sox in town. Not unless your goal is to embarrass him.

I checked with a few people in baseball Saturday night, asking for their thoughts. And their thoughts were the same as my thoughts.

"To Posada, who has had a great career, it's a personal slap in the face to hit ninth," said one former big-league manager. "Hit [Brett] Gardner ninth. Girardi has to understand that Posada's got more friends on that team than [Girardi] does."

Yes, I know, Posada said publicly -- before and after the game -- that hitting ninth wasn't an issue, and that it wasn't why he asked out of the lineup.

I remember another proud player saying that being dropped in the batting order didn't bother him, then going up to the plate and telling everyone he would take three straight strikes (which he did).

My guess is that tempers will cool down and that Girardi and Posada will come to some sort of understanding, and that if Posada starts hitting he'll keep playing.

Girardi seemed to be heading in that direction after the game (a 6-0 loss to the Red Sox that dropped the Yankees out of a playoff position), to the point of saying that Posada told him in their brief pregame meeting that he just "needed a day."

"Sometimes we need a day to clear our head, and take a deep breath," Girardi said.

Posada also seemed to be heading towards mending fences. He also used the line about "needing time," although he inexplicably brought up the idea that his back was stiff.

But he also said, "I still want to be here. I love playing, and I love playing for this organization."

Posada saved his venom for general manager Brian Cashman, complaining that Cashman would choose to go on television to discuss the situation during the game.

"That's the way he works right now," Posada said.

Fortunately, a player-GM relationship isn't crucial, as the Rangers will tell you. Has it hurt them one bit that Michael Young doesn’t like Jon Daniels?

Yes, Young is hitting .351, not .165. But it's also true that Rangers manager Ron Washington has already had Young start 13 games in the field.

How a manager handles his stars, fading or otherwise, is absolutely crucial, because every other player in the clubhouse is watching. It's why Red Sox manager Terry Francona consistently stood behind David Ortiz during Ortiz's horrid starts the last two years.

Francona did drop Ortiz as far as seventh in the order, but he made sure Ortiz knew he was appreciated.

It's no surprise that it was Ortiz who said Saturday of the Yankees and Posada (according to the Boston Herald): "They're doing that guy wrong."

Ortiz is right, even if in this instance, Posada was wrong.

The Yankees have been doing that guy wrong.

He may be a fading star, but he's still a star.

And you don't embarrass your stars, even when they're fading.

Category: MLB

Since: May 25, 2007
Posted on: May 15, 2011 10:09 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

This blogger is an idiot!!!! Its about what have you done for me lately and with the amount of money Posada is being paid he should just say thank you. Lets not forget he signed the contract pretty much knowing he wouldn't be catching and by not catching could add a couple more years playing time. The Yankees have always played to the media so what Cashman is doing is no surprise. Players of today should be happy with the money they are making and keep quiet,star player or not. Whats wrong with batting 9th?? You get a minimum 3 at bats and you're playing in the AL. Its not like the pitcher is hitting before you! 

So Mr. Danny blog about something you have a clue about!!! Posada is completely wrong no ifs ands or buts!!!!!!  

Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: May 15, 2011 10:08 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Knobhead, Your hilarious. You said you talked to a few baseball people last night and they agreed with you, yet i have read maybe 2 comments on this site where people concure with your article.  Try talking to real folks and maybe....just maybe some common sense will ring true in your writing. Whats embarrassing is not Posada batting ninth ( he should be happy he is in the lineup at all) it's the fact that he is batting .165. Pitchers in the National league should start demanding to move up the lineup and maybe pull themselves out of their start because they are batting ninth, huh? O.k that might be a bit much for a player who averaged over .270 for his career, but he is 40 and at the end of his career and never was a good defensive catcher. He deserves respect. I get that. But batting ninth on a major league team and making over 12mil, i would say is not disrespecting. Posada said he needed to clear is head. Really? You play a game and make 12 mil a year.  Unless you have had a family tragedy, maybe lost a home in the south due to tornadoes, Have a serious illness, what do you really have to clear your head about, batting ninth? What he neeeds is a visit from that Drill Seargent who plays a shrink in that Geico commercial.  Just another example of this namby pamby society America has become.

Since: Dec 19, 2007
Posted on: May 15, 2011 10:05 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

I am a lifelong New York Yankees fan, but i have been fed up with the "star" issues lately. First off, Derek Jeter is one of my all-time favorites, but the Yankees should have let him go in the off season if he would not agree to take less money for his majorly deminishing skills and play. I believe contracts should be more incentive laden anyway, instead of all that guaranteed money. The Yankees have paid Jeter several hundred milliuon dollars over his career, so they owe him nothing. they have made Jorge Posada a very wealthy man as well, so they owe him nothing. It's not the Yankees' fault that these guys don't know when to hang it up and expect to be paid the same as when they were putting up huge numbers. They already get paid millions and get treated like gods to play a game for a living. Imagine a team's ability to compete at a higher level if they didn't have to follow such a rediculous unwritten rule that states these players deserve to continue to collect millions after their usefulness is used up. Maybe it wouldn't be so expensive for the average fan to attend games and support teams and players. If the common man doesn't perform his job satisfactorly, he's given his walking papers, not awarded with millions of unearned dollars and coddled like an infant.

Since: Apr 27, 2011
Posted on: May 15, 2011 9:59 am
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Posted on: May 15, 2011 9:56 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way


I never knew you had your own blog. I hope you have fun finishing your career with the Pirates

Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: May 15, 2011 9:50 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Whatever happened "Take one for the team?"  I like Posada but he should be thankful he is even in the lineup the way he has batted this year.

Russel Martin is a superior catched at this point in time.   There are not many 40 year old catchers. So every hitter that bats 9th for the Yankee is humiliated??

The Yankees sure have not mishandled Posadas checkbook. 

Since: Mar 21, 2010
Posted on: May 15, 2011 9:45 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

All sides are at fault in this debacle and there is no sugar coating it.

Jorge Posada going to an outside chiropractor and saying nothing to the Yankees team trainer when he got to the ballpark lays fault at his feet. Jorge is a star but being a star does not exclude him from having an open line of communications with the team that signs his paychecks.

Joe Giradi is at fault for not letting Jorge not even catch one game a week. Maybe that one game behind the plate each week could have made the transition to the designated hitter much more smoother. Who knows how much more productive Posada would be at the plate if he were getting at least one game per week behind the plate.

Even Brian Cashman is at fault. Why is he giving interviews during the course of a game? Fox would have been better off letting Sarah Silverman have that air time as well.

Since: Jul 21, 2008
Posted on: May 15, 2011 9:43 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Posada is getting paid $13M guaranteed for this season. And is htting .165.

And, some how, the Yankees have allegedly done him wrong?

Psh. Please!

Since: Feb 11, 2008
Posted on: May 15, 2011 9:27 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

The Yankes have a long history of dissing star players.  The three that come immediately to my mind are Babe Ruth, Phil Rizzuto, and Bernie Williams.  I am sure stars on other teams have been mistreated in a similar fashion but I live in a suburb of the media capital. I am not a Yankee fan and have always found Posada to be somewhat surly but he's won alot of big games for the Yanks over the years and deserves nothing less than some advance notice.  And, keep Cashman off the air .... he's an idiot!

Since: Feb 6, 2008
Posted on: May 15, 2011 9:09 am

Yanks have mishandled Posada, in every way

Posada should be thankful to have a job. He shouldnt even be hitting 9th, he should be hitting the streets.  If Posada is such a great Yankee he would do what they ask and help is team in anyway possible. I have lost all respect for him

On another note, Cashman should be absolutely ashamed of talking to the media during the game. Both sides are coming out looking bad.

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