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Beltran derby into final days, Rangers interested

Posted on: July 24, 2011 1:22 pm
Edited on: July 24, 2011 3:53 pm
With the Carlos Beltran derby heading into the final days, there were suggestions Sunday that the Phillies' interest has cooled, that the Rangers' interest has picked up and that the Giants are still heavily involved.

Meanwhile, the Mets continue to hold out hope that one team or another will agree to surrender its top prospect in return for Beltran, who is the best hitter on the free-agent market but is also strictly a rental player.

Beltran must approve any trade, and as many others have reported, his preference is to stay in the National League. But one person close to him said Sunday that it's possible that Beltran would approve a deal to the Rangers.

Texas fits some of Beltran's stated criteria, since the Rangers are likely to be in the playoffs and have a real chance of getting to the World Series. Also, the Rangers could offer Beltran regular playing time in the outfield, either by playing Beltran in center field or (more likely) by moving Josh Hamilton back to center.

Earlier this month, the Rangers seemed most focused on adding pitching, either in the rotation or the bullpen. They talked to the Rockies about Ubaldo Jimenez, and discussed relievers with the Padres.

But the Rangers sent a scout in to see Beltran at the end of the Mets' homestand last week, and by Sunday one rival official was suggesting that the Rangers could even be the favorite, because they had more prospects available and also could take on more of Beltran's salary.

The Braves, Red Sox, Pirates and even the Reds have been mentioned in connection with Beltran.

Because Beltran is easily the biggest impact hitter on the market, the Mets can justify asking for the world. What works against them actually getting it is that both the Giants and the Rangers (and the Phillies, for that matter) will very likely make the playoffs with or without a Beltran trade.

For those teams, the question is how much better Beltran would make them in October, and how much that's worth in terms of giving up top prospects.

The Mets are said by sources to have asked for pitcher Zack Wheeler from the Giants. According to Jon Heyman of, they asked for first Domonic Brown and then Jarred Cosart from the Phillies. It's no surprise that the Phils said no on both. There were also reports that the Mets had asked for Mike Minor from the Braves, and again it's no surprise that the Braves said no.


Since: May 17, 2011
Posted on: July 25, 2011 3:13 pm

Beltran derby into final days, Rangers interested

I thought Beltran was a good trade, he did well in Houston and I thought he would be one of the best forthe Mets.  In his career with the Mets, he has been one of the best center fielders.  But, his hitting wasn't clutch and he isn't a leader.  And he is getting old, I bet he gets big $$ on his next deal

Good luck to whoever gets him, I'm hoping that we get descent prospects back...  Maybe help the NL win another WS?  By the time the Mets get into the WS he will be a over the hill, hahaha.

Since: May 7, 2007
Posted on: July 25, 2011 3:11 pm

Beltran derby into final days, Rangers interested

why not test Leonys Martin before taking on Beltrans salary??

Since: Nov 15, 2008
Posted on: July 25, 2011 10:47 am

Beltran derby into final days, Rangers interested

Beltran has a no trade clause.  he has told the mets he will only accept a deal to an nl team in contention.  he does not want to dh at all,unless texas blows the other deals away and they sweeten the pot, with some bonuts, Carlos isnt going to be in Texas.   Hes going to end up a Giant IMO  unless they too are stupid enough to go for BJ  Upton, so they can hang on to more young players they may never  need, they have the rare chance to repeat, and with Beltran hitting in a lineup full of gamers ,  he could have a huge effect on a once in a lifetime opportunity. 

Since: Feb 3, 2008
Posted on: July 25, 2011 10:20 am

Beltran derby into final days, Rangers interested

Where would Beltran bat in the lineup? 7th? I wouldn't think Beltre, Young or Cruz would move. I don't like the idea of giving up prospects for a short-term player that's really not a need, but the idea of having a hitter like Beltran hitting 7th is unbelievable

Maybe Elvis leads off, Young 2nd and Beltran goes to 5? Then Kinsler is hitting 7th. Either way, that's a really good line-up for the playoffs.

Since: Nov 15, 2008
Posted on: July 25, 2011 10:19 am

Beltran derby into final days, Rangers interested

Phillies need Heath Bell way more then they do Carlos Beltran.  The Braves should trade Minor for Beltran.  He could get them over the hump. These Gm's fall in love with prospects, how many young pitchers do you need.  Beltran is leading the nl in xtra basehits,  he could help mcCann  and Prado and gives the Braves a real shot to compete in the playoffs. Keep holding those prospects, and watching other teams win world series.

Since: Mar 10, 2007
Posted on: July 25, 2011 10:07 am

Beltran derby into final days, Rangers interested

I was at the Rangers ballpark last night. There were a LOT of empty seats. And I mean a LOT. For a team just in the World Series, they sure aren't selling tickets very well.

You're right, Saturday night's attendance was low, at only 38,536.  The Rangers have had horrible attendance this year, with only 14 home games of 45,000+.  They should be ashamed of themselves that they are only averaging 6,072 more per game than they did all of last year.

Okay, I'll quit with the sarcasm.  Game time temperature was 100.  Considering how brutal this summer has been, their attendance has been outstanding.  They'll probably break 3 mil for the year, which year-in and year-out would be in the top 3rd of baseball.

Now if you want to gripe because the Ballpark doesn't have a retractable roof to mitigate that heat, I'll gladly join you....

Since: Jul 10, 2009
Posted on: July 25, 2011 10:01 am

Beltran derby into final days, Rangers interested

I think Beltran will end up with the Rangers-bellman

Carlos Beltran has a full no trade contract and as said he will not entertain being a DH.  I wouldn't rule out the Red Sox because they have David Ortiz.  But I think the Giants, Phillies, and Pirates will be Beltrans landing zone.  The Phillies who do not want to cross the luxury tax threshold and the Pirates who don't have money will both be attracted by the Mets offer to pick up the 6 M left on Beltrans contract. 

Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: July 25, 2011 9:31 am

Beltran derby into final days, Rangers interested

 "Doing so would effectively make their games into six inning contests for their opponents."

Not from what I saw of Feliz earlier this season it wouldn't. Unless your talking about Bell becoming the closer and Feliz the 7th or 8th inning guy...and then still no. Until he starts commanding the strike zone better with his fastball he's an unknown quantity at best.

Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: July 25, 2011 9:24 am

Beltran derby into final days, Rangers interested

The Red Sox need pitching more than another bat. Reddick/Drew/McDonald/Whoever can man RF admirably enough, but the DL stints of Lester and Buchholz have caused a considerable amount of concern. No way they trust Lackey/Wakefield/Miller or whoever else they bring up to keep them in front if these guys can't come back completely healthy. I know Lester comes back today but there is still ZERO info on Buchholz's return. When he last talked about his back he said the pain was an 8 out of 10 when he tried to pitch. That aint' good...

Since: Jul 19, 2007
Posted on: July 25, 2011 8:22 am

Beltran derby into final days, Rangers interested

xpivot22x - you are dead on with your assessment.  Pence will be way more costly than Beltran.  Thing is, I really don't think the Astros will move him unless they get a very lopsided offer.  I think Beltran will end up with the Rangers and I see both the Red Sox and Phillies standign relatively pat this free agency period and going with what has them at the two best records in their respective leagues.

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