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Don't believe Braun now? Sorry, can't help you

Posted on: February 23, 2012 6:31 pm
 
So you still don't believe Ryan Braun?

Sorry, I can't help you.

So you're now claiming that the process is rigged, or that baseball didn't really want Braun suspended?

Sorry, can't help you.

Go ahead and tell me that it's "corrupt," as one Twitter follower wrote after Thursday's decision was announced in Braun's favor. Go ahead and call him a "coward," as another tweeter said.

Sorry, can't help you, because in that case you're not interested in justice.

And as for the idea that one not-guilty verdict taints other positive tests, seriously? When one criminal trial ends with not-guilty, do we empty the jails because every other conviction must be wrong, too?

If baseball or any other sport is going to have a drug-testing system, there needs to be a way for a player to appeal a positive test. If there's going to be an appeal process, it needs to be fair enough that if the player makes a legitimate case that the test was flawed, he gets off.

Ryan Braun's people made that case, and an independent arbitrator agreed with them, with his vote swinging a 2-to-1 decision on a three-man panel that also included a representative from the commissioner's office and one from the players' union.

That's an independent arbitrator, independent enough that MLB quickly issued a statement saying it "vehemently disagrees" with the decision.

Braun's people made the case that the chain of custody was a problem, that the sample wasn't sent for 48 hours after Braun took the test. They made the case with the help, no doubt, from an abnormally-spiked testosterone level in the test in question, and in a clean test that Braun took after the first result came back positive.

It's a tough case to prove, and that's why when the news of Braun's failed test first surfaced in December, the strong assumption was that his appeal had little chance of success. No one had ever successfully overturned a suspension before.

But if there never was going to be a first one to succeed, why have the appeal process at all? And if you're not going to have an appeal process, well, you explain to me how that's fair.

What's unfair right now is that news of the Braun positive test got out in the first place, and that it unfairly taints his reputation. You see now why the players insisted on confidentiality, with a suspension only announced after the appeal process was complete.

In all cases before this one, the news never did get out before the appeal.

So how should we look at Ryan Braun now?

With sympathy, I'd say. A flawed test is useless as proof of anything, so unless he fails a test where there is no question about the method or the chain of custody, he's as innocent as any other player in the game today.

Does this mean that MLB is clean? No. Does it mean that MLB won't take on its biggest stars? Definitely not.

Does it mean that Ryan Braun is absolutely clean? There's absolutely no way to know that, just as there's no way to know it with certainty about any player.

But with this verdict, he gets as much the benefit of the doubt as anyone else.

So what does this mean, then?

It means that the system works.

If you can't accept an independent arbitrator ruling in Braun's favor, then what exactly would you accept?

If the answer is nothing, then I go back to the start.

Sorry, can't help you.

Category: MLB
Comments

Since: Jan 10, 2012
Posted on: February 24, 2012 12:16 pm
 

Don't believe Braun now? Sorry, can't help you

Thank God that you people that crucify a man that went through the system and proved his innocence are not real Judges in a court of law.  we would have no citizens left because you would incarerate evryone that is charged with anthing before due process.  WOW!



Since: Aug 22, 2007
Posted on: February 24, 2012 12:14 pm
 

Don't believe Braun now? Sorry, can't help you

Alsmooth: I don't think any sane person would directly compare murdering two people in cold blood to a guy injecting synthetic hormones into his own body BUT what is comparable is the way in which they both got off the hook.  A technicality.  I'm not angry or losing sleep over this as you suggested but I am flabbergasted by the number of people who think this exonerates him.  He appealed the c.of c., not the results of the tests and legally won. Congratualtions to him.  He gets to keep a large chunk of his upcoming salary.  Many guilty people go free because of c. of c. mistakes.  It doesn't make them any less guilty outside of a courtroom. 

It's just mind-boggling that people think this means he difinitively didn't take PED's.  Everyone agrees the sample was not tampered with.  The seal was never broken.  I don't care where you leave the sample, synthetic hormones simply don't magical appear.  If you are a Brewers fan you should be happy.  Your team is much better with Ryan Braun than without but don't bury your heads in the sand like SF Giants fans who blindly cheered for Barry Bonds for over a decade when everyone in baseball knew he was dirty.



Since: Sep 12, 2011
Posted on: February 24, 2012 12:07 pm
 

Don't believe Braun now? Sorry, can't help you

Those that "have" - get.

If this was not Ryan Braun, but a utility infielder from the Astros....what would have been the outcome?



Since: Jan 10, 2012
Posted on: February 24, 2012 12:06 pm
 

Don't believe Braun now? Sorry, can't help you

Sorry, my friend, you are quite the idiot. There was plenty of evidence against Tricky Dicky, pleamty against Bundy, PLEASE research before you write stupis comments--OJ was found innocent in criminal court.  Oh, by the way, as time has passed, history has plenty of evidence that Al Capone was a Mob Boss.



Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: February 24, 2012 12:03 pm
 

Sorry, can't help you

The exercise of reading on this general topic hereabouts has been every bit as cringeworthy as I expected that I would find it and then some.

In that respect at least, and as usual, you worthless cretins have not disappointed. Well done.



Since: Nov 15, 2008
Posted on: February 24, 2012 12:03 pm
 

Don't believe Braun now? Sorry, can't help you

the only sad part of this is Braun himself acting vindicated when he knows he cheated.   The rest I can deal with



Since: Jan 10, 2012
Posted on: February 24, 2012 12:00 pm
 

Don't believe Braun now? Sorry, can't help you

This was the first time a failed test was leaked BEFORE the appeals process.  The problem when this happens is called a witch hunt.  And THAT is the problem with whatever souce leaked it, assumably MLB.  Since this is the first time that has happened, we cannot taint Ryan Braun.  Think about this, if MLB did not leak it, who did?  Not fair to Braun.  All of us fans need to forget that this happened, because under the rules that were set forth, we never would have known.  Think about this: he had an insane high level of testosterone.  Really?  Do we really think he would be THAT stupid?  Hardly.  Use common sense here.  This reeks of a with hunt from start to finish.  Braun worked through the system and PROVED his innocence.  And no, I am not a Brew Crew fan by any stretch.  Justice was served.  Be happy about and do not taint the man's image.



Since: Feb 24, 2012
Posted on: February 24, 2012 11:59 am
 

Don't believe Braun now? Sorry, can't help you

I have never posted before but I feel very strongly about Ryan Braun's situation. People who complain about someone "getting off" on a "technicality" fail to realize that we live under systems of laws and rules. When the rules aren't followed, the evidence gets thrown out as being unreliable. There is no proof!! If this turns out to be a chain of custody issue, that is a vital part in protecting the evidence and insuring that everyones rights are protected. The evidence is deemed unreliable because of many possibilities. Was it tampered with? Who had access to the sample? Does the delay affect the sample. It is not up to Mr. Braun to prove what happened to the sample. It is Unreliable!!! People who want to condemn him because they "know" are the same people who want to convict someone because they "know he/she did it even though the proof is not deemed to be reliable ( or they did something else so why not convict). Major League Baseball should be ashamed of itself for continuing to cast doubt on their own system and for trying to smear Mr. Braun. Accept the results and if the system is not working properly, fix it. Shame on them if they treat a sample which holds the spotless reputation of a great young star and the hopes of a team and city so cavalierly that the test is deemed unrelaible. Shame on them if the leak came from Major League Baseball. By the way, the last time I checked Fed-Ex and UPS are open on the weekends for shipping.



Since: Mar 5, 2010
Posted on: February 24, 2012 11:53 am
 

Don't believe Braun now? Sorry, can't help you

Using the same logic as Knobler and many of the posters on here, i came up with the following conlusions:

OJ did not kill his ex-wife.

Ted Bundy only killed a few women.

Al Capone never did anything wrong in his life except for evading taxes and banging an infected woman.

Richard Nixon was never involved with Watergate.



Since: Oct 7, 2007
Posted on: February 24, 2012 11:48 am
 

Don't believe Braun now? Sorry, can't help you

i'd say murdering 2 people is a bit worse than taking testosterone.
 


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