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Possible Destinations For Sabathia

Posted on: June 18, 2008 1:43 pm
Edited on: June 18, 2008 1:57 pm
 

Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer weighs in on the different teams that could land CC Sabathia.

  • Yankees: Despite Ken Davidoff's report yesterday that the Yankees would not land Sabathia, Hoynes notes that the Yankees are desperate for an ace but acknowledges that they may wait until the off-season.
  • Phillies: Hoynes points out that Sabathia's first big league manager was Charlie Manuel, but the Phillies may not have enough in the system.
  • Cubs: Hoynes feels that Lou PIniella would trade for Sabathia right now if he could.
  • Red Sox: Hoynes feels the Sox are more likely to wait until the off-season.
  • Rays: Hoynes notes that the Rays have the pieces in the farm system to land Sabathia, but wonders if they are willing to rent a player for a playoff push.
  • Angels: Hoynes points out that Sabathia is from the west coast and the Angels may have a better chance of resigning him.

Hoynes also talked to scouts about what the Indians can expect to receive if they do decide to trade the free agent-to-be.

One scout said that "they could get two young players that were at or close to the big-league level that they could control for a while" while a second scout speculates the bounty could be " two and three prospects, depending on whether that team could sign Sabathia to an extension before he becomes a free agent this winter."

Cork Gaines writes for RaysIndex and can be reached here (cork@raysindex.com).

Comments

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: June 18, 2008 6:16 pm
 

Possible Destinations For Sabathia

I don't think he's going anywhere until at least the offseason.

Bigpapiandmanny is right about the dearth of deals for top shelf starters in-season.

When he becomes a free agent, I think that Cleveland had better be ready to step up because the Yankees and Cubs will then be angling for him.



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: June 18, 2008 5:20 pm
 

Possible Destinations For Sabathia

As for other pitchers mentioned, they are not in the same class as CC.  Harden is a huge injury risk and the A's will not trade him for nothing.  Willis?  Come on now, homeboy is single A. Oswalt is a great pitcher that is having a bad, bad year. Buehrle is on the central division leading Whitesox, not sure why they would trade him.  Plus, do you really think Buehrle is equal to CC.

As 14 already pointed out, I said IN RECENT YEARS. Although Harden is in the same class in CC, because when he has been healthy, he is arguably a top 5 pitcher in all of baseball, the others are examples from past years. Buehrles name was the on thrown around most last year, when the White Sox ended up signing him to an extension, and Willis and Oswalt was more the years before that, when they were solid aces. Nowhere did I say that they were better or equal to C.C.

And the Dodgers will not be going after Sabathia, they need a big offensive bat. If they are going to be making a deal, it won't be for a big name ace. They may get another pitcher for added depth, but I doubt they trade for C.C. when they really need a big bat.




Since: Jan 29, 2008
Posted on: June 18, 2008 4:39 pm
 

Possible Destinations For Sabathia

V,

I think you missed a key phrase. "in recent years". Just thought I'd point that out.




Since: Jan 6, 2008
Posted on: June 18, 2008 4:16 pm
 

Possible Destinations For Sabathia

Sabathia will be traded only if they get the value they want in return.  I have said in previous posts that the Indians will more than likely trade him and get some big time talent (i.e. Longoria, LaPorta, Marmol, Broxton, et. al.).  If they don't, I agree, the Indians will resign Sabathia and look to trade him in the offseason. 

Everyone keeps on saying that you cannot get alot of value for CC, which is absolutely crazy.  Every team trying to make the playoffs would love him.  He has been the most dominating pitcher in the MLB since May and he is more than a "rental".  Any team that trades for Sabathia (assuming that he is traded within the coming weeks) gets him for half the season and two Type-A draft picks if they can not resign him.  Recall, the Tigers took a chance and traded for Caberra and Willis who only had one season remaining on their contracts and got two studs in return.  I think you will see a very similiar trade with CC and maybe along with additional players for a mega deal.

As for other pitchers mentioned, they are not in the same class as CC.  Harden is a huge injury risk and the A's will not trade him for nothing.  Willis?  Come on now, homeboy is single A. Oswalt is a great pitcher that is having a bad, bad year. Buehrle is on the central division leading Whitesox, not sure why they would trade him.  Plus, do you really think Buehrle is equal to CC.

The teams that make the most sense for a trade are: Angels, Dodgers, Cardinals, and Rays.




Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: June 18, 2008 2:43 pm
 

Possible Destinations For Sabathia

The Indians will be getting Hafner back in a few weeks, and they're going to wait to see if he can return to form, so in the end, I don't see Sabathia going anywhere unless the Indians get some kind of mega-deal with something like 2 top prospects and an already major-league ready player. They think they can resign him with hopes that he gives them some type of hometown discount, and I never really buy into all the hype around ace starting pitchers being moved around at the trade deadline, especially for short rentals. Look at how many times Rich Harden, Dontrelle Willis, Roy Oswalt, and Mark Buehrle's names (to name a few) have been thrown around in recent years for deadline deals, and how many were moved mid-season. Zero.

I agree with all the points made, that the teams listed can be likely suitors for Sabathia, and that they do or do not have the farm to get a deal done, but in the end, I don't see him going anywhere unless, like I said, the Indians get a really great deal.



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