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My salary cap solution and some other thoughts.

Posted on: January 1, 2009 11:04 pm
 

I'm unbelievably disgusted by this off-season's insane and quite frankly reckless spending by teams led by the Yankee$. It has tempered my enthusiasm for the upcoming year. I only hope it leads owners with some backbone to stand up and say that's enough. I know it's years away, but the next CBA may include one. If I was running the sport and could impliment my cap it would look like this...

First of all, I'd have a ceiling and a floor. There would be no wiggle room or allowances. Let's start with the ceiling shall we...

The cap would be 150 million.  Once implimented there would be a hard fast date (April 1) and all teams must be at or below that number. If not, they would be fined the amount they are over the cap and they couldn't sign any free-agents or make any trades that would't bring them under . The only moves they could make would be to bring up pre-existing minor league players. They couldn't circumvent the system by making a trade, then putting them in the minors for a short period. No deals unless you are under the cap with that deal. None. It's the minors only. If a team wasn't under by the season's end, they'd lose 2 draft picks and the same rules would apply about trades and free-agents until they hit that number or less. I'd put all the fine money in an escrow account and use it for: former MLB players medical bills, urban youth baseball programs, umpire training and buying tickets so families and underprivileged kids could go to the games free or at a reduced rate.

The floor would be 50 million. Teams under that number would be fined the amount they are under the cap. They couldn't make any trades that reduce salary, only add to it. If they were still under that number by season's end, they'd lose one draft pick and I'd put their team on a contraction list. This would increase their spending since they'd be paying a certain sum anyway. They'd also hate to lose a draft pick. Contraction would be a threat no one wants.

You know the union wouldn't go for this. So I'd make some concessions. I'd increase revenue sharing to make up the difference. I'd have the owners involved in a revenue sharing plan which would bridge the gap. After the Yankee$ spree, even some big markets may see the need for this. If the players still balk, I'd lock them out. Let's see if those big money guys will have the stomach to wait out a whole year. Lets see if those who got the short-end because of the few that make the real money will stick by their overpaid brethren. All they have to do is see how the NFL and NBA players are doing with a cap. They seem fairly content and are getting excellent deals. The cap doesn't hurt the players, it actually helps the majority. The great players will get their money, but a handful of teams can't horde them, making competition fairer.

Once this is resolved, I'd then expunge all of Bonds HR records and re-install Maris and Aaron as the HR kings. I' d move the Brewers back to the AL Central and KC to the West evening out the leagues and giving the AL West 5 teams. I'd bring the DH to the NL. I'd eliminate that inane rule about the winner of the All-star game and award home-field in the WS to the team with the best record. If they have the same record, I'd go to head-to-head, then inter-league record to break it. I'd also institute mandatory Sunday afternoon games for the LCS and WS. Saturday night's games would start @ 7:35 EST and all playoff games had to start at or before 6:05 EST during the week. This gives the youth a true opportunity to see the sport at it's height without sacrificing sleep for school. I'd also ban Clemens, Sosa, McGwire, Bonds, Palmeiro and others who took PED's from HOF ballots. Any writer who writes in one of them in protest would be denied MLB credentials indefinitely.

Baseball is a unique sport and should keep some of those things that make it special. However, the insane payrolls have to go. A cap is the only way to stop the owners from themselves. This year should be the impetus for sparking that discussion internally and finally realizing it's the only solution to equity and financial stability. My cap is just one suggestion. Sure there are flaws, but at least it's an idea. It's time for the owners to step up. You know their commissioner won't and can't. MLB is rudderless. I hope people in the front offices and owners boxes are as mad as me. I love a big market team and am disgusted. How do the fans from those small market teams feel? I'm betting disgust is a mild word to describe it.

 

 

 

 

Category: MLB
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Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: July 24, 2009 10:13 pm
 

My salary cap solution and some other thoughts.

Two, when you are forced to trade Holliday for nothing at the deadline, get back to me. Let's see how you'll feel about it then. Your team had dumped some of their best players because they couldn't pay the insane sums they would get in the market. That's patently unfair. You develop the talent, then lose it? A cap would allow you to keep those players and more than likely put the team at an advantageWell they got something, but they were once again forced to deal him for economic reasons. There was real concern if the A's offered him arbitration he'd might accept because the economy is so bad, this year wouldn't have been the best to get a long-term deal.



Since: Jul 8, 2007
Posted on: January 5, 2009 10:10 am
 

My salary cap solution and some other thoughts.

As far as a Salary cap goes there are too many problems to overcome in order for baseball to get this put into place.  This brings me to my point.  Even though they may not be able to get a cap in place I feel that if they could put a floor in place this would accomplish more towards what the salary cap would do.  Getting the owners to reinvest more of their luxury tax and revenue sharing money back into their teams would allow more high dollar free agents to stay put or consider a smaller market team.  The owners of small market teams that are pocketing this money are doing their fans a disservice by not putting a product on the field that is well within their ability to do so.  If you reinvest this money it would be like the Yankee's and all these other big market teams funding your team and making it more competitive.  However,  the reality of it is this.  The Yankees spent and spent over the last 8 years and have nothing to show for it.  The Rays put a bad product on the field for 10 years and finally put together a core of players that took them to the world series on a budget that is under any proposed floor.  They were profitable and competitive on a low budget.  Sooner or later they are going to have to pay those players or lose them and they will lose them, rebuild and start the whole process over again.  Who is right here.  The team that spends and spends of the the team that languished in ineptitude.  The Rays were 3 wins away from accomplishing the ultimate goal on a shoe string budget.  Owners will look at that model and say If I can do that and still pocket all that revenue sharing money.  That is the way for me.



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: January 4, 2009 11:13 pm
 

My salary cap solution and some other thoughts.

One, don't worry your team won't be in the post-season. You won't beat out the Angels and have zero shot at a WC. Even in a division of 4 teams, you have no shot. You'll have to settle for rooting for or against the Halos

This is my opinion. A lot is based on the fact you can't spend money and IMHO will dump Holliday.  If you can't take a prediction sorry. When you made the remark about the Mets, I didn't cry. That's your opinion. It's not an attack, it's my opinion that the Halos will outspend you. They may even still get Manny. Do you really believe you'll beat them? I don't and I actually like some players on your team(Ziegler, Holliday and Devine especially). How does it feel as a fan knowing that some of your better players will be dumped because your team can't/won't be able to re-sign them? Think about that when you watch a great player in Holliday all year, then see him dealt for lower minor leaguers at the deadline to the Yankees, Mets, Phillies, Dodgers or ChiSox? Tell me you won't be ticked. If you're not, then you must not be much of a fan.

Oakland doesn't even watch their own team.

This is true. The A's have rarely if ever filled their stadium despite having some of the most exciting team in MLB history. Look it up. Oakland is a football town. Are you going to deny that?

One andThree

Where's number 2 ?

That feels a little personal and I have to respond to that. I was too young to go or watch the A's in the late 80's and early 90's, but I have been to every playoff game in the 2000's and all of those games have sold out the 54,000+ seats in the coliseum.

Good for you. You should support your team. I don't mean that sarcastically either.

 

In closing,  teams can compete, but it's not equal. I want equity for all. This is despite the fact my team will have the 2nd highest payroll which I find troubling and wrong. Every NA major sport has a cap and the players are doing just fine, the owners aren't complaining about losing money or being unable to sign their own players.  I want a level playing field. A properly installed cap allows that. Then it's up to the team's front-office and organization. That's the way it should be, not through an ATM machine or jersey sales.




Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: January 4, 2009 10:52 pm
 

My salary cap solution and some other thoughts.

I love this game.  I am like you, I go to the minor league games whenever possible.  From 2006-2008, I have probably attended 100 spring training, regular season, and minor league games combined.  This is the best sport out there.  I cannot wait until I have kids of my own, and can sit there and tell them about this great game and pass this love affair on to them!

 


 

It's the greatest joy possible.  My son loves baseball. He respects the game and it's players. Baseball is the best sport. 

 I think 100 million is high enough though.

I love your thinking. I started out with 125 million and moved it up to 150. The Yankees are twice over that and it would be unfair to make them dump half their salary since MLB allowed them to accumulate that payroll. My cap is more in line with the luxury tax which is in effect, a defacto cap.

I know that is a stretch comparing the 2, but I think you understand where I am going with this

I do, but these records were broken by players who not only took PED's, but lied under oath to congress.  Bonds in particular probably added quite a few balls, that due to his age and diminished bat speed would have landed at the warning track. I do not consider him the HR champion. He was a great player who sullied his career and the sport and should not be honored with the greatest record in the sport because he took short cuts. The fact that Selig and his minions knew makes them accessories and IMHO pathetic.  

 I would leave the DH the way it is. 

I hate the DH, but it is unfair the NL doesn't have it. I want equity. There is no way the AL will eliminate it, so it should be implimented.

I do not think there should be a floor though.  The reason is that bad teams would overpay marginal talent to make the quota.

The floor shows good faith and tells owners, they can't cheap out on their fans and horde the money so they can unload the team or hold them up for a new stadium. They can simply spend the money on their own players locking them up early if they don't want mediocrity.

Instead, winner of the All-Star game, that league gets to host next years All-Star game

That's a very good idea, but I believe they need to schedule those events years in advance.

Also, Joe Buck isnot allowed anywhere near the games.  He is awful.  Jon Miller and Joe Morgan should do play by play for the World  SeriesJoe Buck is horrid. He's terrible in football as well. It's a shame since his dad was a great baseball announcer. McCarver should also be banned. Miller and Morgan are better, but far from WS worthy. Morgan is one of my all-time favorite players, but he's one of the worst announcers ever. Miller is pedestrian at best. I love Gary Cohen and Ron Darling. Though they work for the Mets, I feel they would be objective and no duo in better in any sport IMHO. Harry Kalas is also excellent. I'm sure there are others as well, but those are the ones I've heard and been impressed with. Bob Costas would be outstanding as well. He truly loves the sport.

Thanks for the response.  Personally, I thought your was the most honest and well-thought out.




Since: Dec 13, 2006
Posted on: January 4, 2009 10:39 pm
 

My salary cap solution and some other thoughts.

I understand your points for why you would want a salary cap, I'm just saying, I still don't think it's necessary. Small market teams can compete through the draft, smart free agent signings and player development. A solid coaching staff and a organization that is run the right way can make up for the disparity on the economical playing field. I can't be persuaded to think that a team that has the means to overpay the top couple of free agents each season, shouldn't do it. You can't persuade me to think that a salary cap is the answer to some organization's problems. I get what you're saying, I just don't agree.

I don't have kids and you're right, that sounds like it sucks, but the current system seems to try and appease the complaints of all the time zones as much as possible.

You did attack when made comments such as:

One, don't worry your team won't be in the post-season. You won't beat out the Angels and have zero shot at a WC. Even in a division of 4 teams, you have no shot. You'll have to settle for rooting for or against the Halos

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Three, Oakland doesn't even watch their own team.

That feels a little personal and I have to respond to that. I was too young to go or watch the A's in the late 80's and early 90's, but I have been to every playoff game in the 2000's and all of those games have sold out the 54,000+ seats in the coliseum.



Since: Dec 13, 2008
Posted on: January 4, 2009 10:07 pm
 

My salary cap solution and some other thoughts.

     I'll take this point by point.  I do like the cap idea, I have been saying that for 10 yrs.  I think 100 million is high enough though.  They would need to use the rule that hockey does, where 3 players cannot earn more than 50% of the teams payroll, or something like that.  I do not think there should be a floor though.  The reason is that bad teams would overpay marginal talent to make the quota.

     For all the records set in the last 10-20 years, they stay.  You cannot penalize players for playing within the rules of the game.   am a baseball purist to my very core, but these players were just doing what the rules allowed them to do.  It wasn't just hitters using, it was players on every side of the ball.  I have coached enough baseball ( little league, high school, AAU) over the last 15 years to know that strength is worthless if you do no have the hand to eye coordination to hit the ball.  The only player that I have a problem with that was of any significance is Palmiero.  He got caught after the new testing was implemented.  Whatever Bonds, Clemens, McGwire or Sosa did, although it was illegal by the law, it was not against any rules at the time in baseball.  If MLB bans Gatorade, do we go back and penalize players who drank it over the years.  I know that is a stretch comparing the 2, but I think you understand where I am going with this.

    I would leave the DH the way it is.  I would leave the teams where they are.  I would nix the All-Star winner getting home field for the World Series.  Instead, winner of the All-Star game, that league gets to host next years All-Star game.  Say this years game is in Kansas City, before the game is played we would all know that the finalists for next years game are say, Tampa and Houston.  If your league wins, you get to host next year.  If you lose, you have to wait another year.  

     I would have all LCS and World Series weekend games at 4pm.  I'm sure if you called over to the NFL and asked if they could leave that slot open for a couple sundays in the fall, they would oblige.  And, weekday games would start at 7, just like they do in the regular season.  Also, Joe Buck isnot allowed anywhere near the games.  He is awful.  Jon Miller and Joe Morgan should do play by play for the World Series.

     I know Bud Selig wasn't mentioned by name, but I get the feeling someone does not like the job he has done.  I am on the other side of the plate on this one.  I think he has done a great job with what he has to deal with.  Unfortunatley for him, the players union has wrestled away the power.  Baseball, like any sport, is now adays, a business.  When you own and operate a business, the owners should be the ones who make the most money, since they invest hundreads of millions of their money.  I know where I work, I am just another bee in the hive, and its the queen  that gets the glory.  I like the fact the Selig has implemented inter-league play.  I do not like this new staggered schedule they have.  I LOVE the wild card and 3 division format.  It gives hope if you have  a team in your division, that you can still make the playoffs.  Bud Selig dealt with this steroid issue the best he could.  He knows if he tries to insert a tougher policy, the union will beat him down with it.  I do think players should be tested 8-10 times a year.  I think the playing field ismore level than the average sports fan thinks it is.  Most of the players who were using, are not, or they are atleast cycling to keep clean during the year.  We willnever be able to clean up baseball, or any sport for that matter, 100%.

     The other thing I would lke to see, is a true draft.  If any player want into MLB, they must go through the draft.  The NBA and NHL do it, and it works fine.  I would leave the rules for high school and college players.  But, any person, anywhere in the world, aged 18 or above, must go through the draft.  I would let the camps in the Dominican and South America run as they are, they are great for spreading baseball.  I would just have them run by MLB.  That way teams cannot find 15 year old prodigies and hide them till they are 18.

     I love this game.  I am like you, I go to the minor league games whenever possible.  From 2006-2008, I have probably attended 100 spring training, regular season, and minor league games combined.  This is the best sport out there.  I cannot wait until I have kids of my own, and can sit there and tell them about this great game and pass this love affair on to them!




Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: January 4, 2009 9:52 pm
 

My salary cap solution and some other thoughts.

It wasn't an attack. You were the one who was snide in yuor remarks saying this was ridiculous. My anger is at baseball and the joke it has become. I have a thread which rips the Yankees. Read it. That's clearly designed to strike out at Yankee fans. Don't patronize me.

You can criticize the A's all you want, but with more talent and a much bigger payroll, that Mets team hasn't done much more the last few seasons.

I didn't criticize them, I empathized with them. I criticized their fans who even when they were winning world series couldn't sell out the stadium.

Secondly, if my team develops talent then they'll lose it anyways by not being able to keep all of the talent under a cap.

Not true. The NBA made it so teams had more leeway in signing their free-agents. This could be instituted.

Thirdly, your complaint about starting times seems to be more about you getting sleep than any potential kids looking to get more involved

No. I can stay up. My kid can't. Perhaps if you had kids and that happened you would understand. My guess is you don't. If you do, imagine they couldn't. On the East Coast we are at a huge disadvantage.

unnecessarily angry.

This is true hubris. Who are you to stifle passion?

Admit that you're just angry at the Yankees.

then where is your blog from years past?

I had one on the cap. However, that was during the season and people weren't as interested as now when spending has been reckless in a recession. This was part 2 with some additions. I actually raised the ceiling from 125 because I figured the Yankees needed 25 million to reach it in the time allotted.

I'm as angry at fans like you who have little desire to see equity like we have in the other sports. The NBA and NFL have caps and are doing great. the NBA was nearly broke in the 1970's. The cap has made the sport better. The NHL has recently gone to a cap and is improving. Every team should have a fair shake and it should be up to their front office personnel, not a checkbook  to decide who is best. That is the essence of what competition is about. Keep buying the big market BS. Ask Montreal fans about how that worked out.

Look, in the end I don't think a salary cap helps small market teams compete

It's not just about competing, it's about competing with equity. My team is a top spender and I want the cap because I believe it's wrong for teams with their own networks and new stadiums to take all the top players and field all-star teams. If the Mets sign Lowe or Perez to 16 million a year, I'll be outraged. in fact, I've posted numerous times about how I felt on the Mets site.

And all those articles that you speak of are in reaction to this year as well.

Many are, but some are from past years as well. When a team spends 423 million on 3 players and has spent 800 million on 5 players the last 2 years, many who actually follow and love the sport see a red flag going up. When pitchers like Derek Lowe demand 16 million dollars and trouble-makers like Manny Ramirez demand 25 million after getting 40 million guaranteed taken away by dogging it and quitting on their team, some who follow the sport tend to say their peace.

There's my response to you.




Since: Dec 7, 2007
Posted on: January 4, 2009 9:34 pm
 

My salary cap solution and some other thoughts.

I agree a salary cap is needed.  I will take a different view nobody has brought up about a cap.  Is a system fair where large revenue teams can fund their operations and pay enormous salaries to players, but for a smaller revenue team, the owner to keep up has to dip into his own net worth greatly.  yes, franchises do appreciate in value, but if the Royals owner has to shell out 75 million a year of his own money to have 3/4 of the Yankees payroll, how long will it be before his net worth suffers to the point owning a team is viable?  Even the Cardinals would have problems keeping up with that.  Look at the Royals shelling out large sums of cash to unproven draft choices because they want the best player they can get, even if it is a Scott Boras client.  There is another area of large expense.  The facts are the NFL has the best system because of revenue sharing and a cap.  If your team is bad, all the blame goes to the front office and coaches.  In baseball, smaller revenue teams can make every right move, yet due to injuries or someone slumping, not be as competitive as they hoped.  Large revenue teams can cover their tracks better.  If Derek Jeter is out for 8 weeks, the Yankees have a better chance of covering for him than if the Cards lose Pujols for the same time frame, and St Louis is mid revenue team.  I agree with someone earlier, the cap would need to be phased in to allow current contracts to be honored.  I an not railing on any large revenue team.  They do what they need to do with the current system to win games.  All of MLB teams need to realize the strength of the game is dependent on all teams having a chance for post season if management does their job.  If the game was really healthy, we would be discussing expansion to Las Vegas, San Antonio, or Charlotte and getting the AL two more teams so there would be 16 teams in each league.  It would be hard to go back and change all the steroids era stats, but somewhere in the future, an asterisk may be put records of this era and the players integrity put into question.  Or the future players and fans 50 years from now will laugh that we hated the use of enhancing drugs and think they're great for the game.  Thanks for reading my ideas.  Great forum.



Since: Dec 13, 2006
Posted on: January 4, 2009 9:24 pm
 

My salary cap solution and some other thoughts.

That did not sound like a rebuttal, but more of an attack from someone who is unnecessarily angry. If your plan for a salary cap isn't a reaction to the Yankees spending this year, then where is your blog from years past? And all those articles that you speak of are in reaction to this year as well.

Secondly, if my team develops talent then they'll lose it anyways by not being able to keep all of the talent under a cap.

Thirdly, your complaint about starting times seems to be more about you getting sleep than any potential kids looking to get more involved in the sport.

You can criticize the A's all you want, but with more talent and a much bigger payroll, that Mets team hasn't done much more the last few seasons.

 Look, in the end I don't think a salary cap helps small market teams compete, because I think they compete just fine right now. The Tampa Bay Rays beat out the Yankees and the Red Sox last year to make it to the World Series. Admit that you're just angry at the Yankees.



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: January 4, 2009 8:26 pm
 

My salary cap solution and some other thoughts.

A salary cap is a knee jerk reaction to the Yankees landing, what most people think, the top two free agents on the market. You want to know how a fan of a small market organization feels about what's been going on and the possiblity of a salary cap? As a fan of the small market Oakland Athletics, a team that has had its fair share of big name, free agents leave due to money; I hate the idea of a salary cap. I don't care that the Yankees overspend for free agents. They have the money to, becuase their fanbase buys tickets, jerseys, merchandise and follows their team enough, that it allows for the Yankees to spend the way they do. I don't see a salary cap all of the sudden giving small market teams a better oportunity to win a World Series. Instead of worrying about a salary cap, I trust in the management of my favorite organization to make the right decisions and field the most compettitive team that they can. It is what it is, it's not going to change and getting all worked up about it is somewhat ridiculous.

It's not knee-jerk. There have been countless articles, posts and even owners clamoring for one. The Owner(McLane) who heads the next negotiation for the owners is a huge proponent of one. 

One, don't worry your team won't be in the post-season. You won't beat out the Angels and have zero shot at a WC. Even in a division of 4 teams, you have no shot. You'll have to settle for rooting for or against the Halos.

 Two, when you are forced to trade Holliday for nothing at the deadline, get back to me. Let's see how you'll feel about it then. Your team had dumped some of their best players because they couldn't pay the insane sums they would get in the market. That's patently unfair. You develop the talent, then lose it? A cap would allow you to keep those players and more than likely put the team at an advantage.

Three, Oakland doesn't even watch their own team. The West Coast fans can TIVO it like we do when it's 11:00 and in the 4th inning. If you get home by 5:30 it will still be in the 4th. Buy a radio. Why should the East Coast fans suffer when they're the ones putting up the nielson ratings and truly supporting the sport? Why should WC "fans" watch the late games without worry?

You really think an earlier start time will get kids to switch from cartoons to a baseball game? I don't like that one either.

Cartoons? Do you even have kids? They'll be playing their video systems if anything. The kids who like baseball will.


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