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What the Mets should do

Posted on: August 6, 2009 11:51 am
Edited on: August 9, 2009 6:28 pm
 

The GM and his minions should all be fired, Beltran should be dealt, a #2 starter should be acquired in the off season, John Maine should be traded or just let go and Perez should be dealt with the Mets eating part of his salary.

The Mets should get a #2 starter and another backend starter(Wolf or even Marquis), then let Niese or Parnell battle for the #5 slot. No more old, washed up pitchers like Hernandez and Garcia. No more garbage like Redding.

The Mets should move Castillo which might be easier since he's at least been decent offensively(in terms of OBP). They should immediately sign Hudson to a 2 year deal. They need to get a LF, CF and catcher. The Beltran trade might bring back a young player who would fill on of those slots. Dye is a possibility for LF. Pagan can not be thought of as a starter. He's a 4th OF.

The Mets should deal Putz if possible to secure prospects or fill-a-need. If Parnell isn't starting, he sets up. The Mets should also deal Fernando Martinez before he flops again or gets hurt again, killing what worth he has left.

The Mets need to be rebuilt. Wright, Reyes, Hudson and Murphy can make-up the infield. Francoeur is in RF. Santana, Pelfrey, Niese, Parnell, Feliciano and K-Rod are the pitchers who should return. Pagan and Santos should be back-ups. Everyone is else is available.

The Mets lone untouchable is Brad Holt. Baseball America also stated that. They said he was Pelfrey with a better breaking ball.

Here's their take...

The Untouchables

Our take on which prospects are too valuable to be dealt

The word "untouchable" comes up a lot with certain prospects; no general manager wants to be on the wrong end of a deal like the Indians-Expos trade back in 2002. With Montreal facing possible contraction but also challenging for a wild-card spot, general manager Omar Minaya acquired Bartolo Colon from Cleveland in a deal that sent prospects Cliff Lee, Brandon Phillips and Grady Sizemore back to the Tribe. While Phillips had to go to Cincinnati to find his way as a player, Lee won a Cy Young Award in 2008, and Sizemore is a constant MVP candidate and the face of the Indians franchise. Meanwhile, the Expos didn't make the playoffs, and haven't come close to developing players of Lee or Sizemore's caliber since trading them away

Using the teams' definition, though, we did come up with a list of prospects whose value to their organizations probably precludes them from being traded in the next few weeks. Cue the Elliot Ness music—here are our Untouchables.

• Brad Holt, rhp, Mets

The Mets' problems are obvious. It's probably too late for them to become buyers, and a huge problem with this season's team is the lack of upper-level minor league talent to fill gaps on the big league roster caused by injuries. Holt, last year's supplemental first-round pick, looks close to being ready to help a rotation that has given 27 starts to the likes of Livan Hernandez and Tim Redding. The best homegrown arm in system has reached Double-A in his first pro season and is comparable stuff-wise to Mike Pelfrey, only with a better breaking ball.

The new GM needs to be given the power to hire and fire without the idiotic Wilpon's meddling. He needs to hire his own staff and manager. I'd love to see Showalter, Valentine, Oberkfell or even a Bowa here. I think Buck fits the best because this team needs a steady no-nonsense guy. No gangsta foolishness or idiotic racist accusations. It's time for a professional manager.

The organization must cease these idiotic ethnic nights and immediately cease any of that Los Mets idiocy. It's divisive. There is only one team and they are the NY Metropolitans. No pandering to ethnic groups. Cater to baseball only.

Professionalize this team and they'll start to win. The culture must be changed. That starts with the architect of this crumbling organization being replaced and a brighter, more polished one in his stead. It continues with the elimination of the core and obliteration of the culture in the clubhouse which has been divisive. The only reason you don't hear that this year, is the divisive ones are on the DL.

Once the MLB team is set, the Mets should focus on rebuilding their minor leagues. They need to hire a good farm director and he needs to draft more effectively, add overseas talent from places other than the DR and they need better coaching. Only Ken Oberkfell should remain as manager where he is. The Brooklyn manager Pedro Lopez should move to Savannah. Mako Oliveras @ Binghamton should be fired ASAP. Tim Teufel could take his place.

The Mets need to overhaul their training and conditioning staff. Dr.Altchek should remain since he's one of the best. Ray Ramirez(aka Dr.Nick Riviera) needs to be fired. The conditioning coaches @ the MLB level need to be fired. This team needs to be in better shape and better cared for when hurt.

The team doesn't need an overhaul, the entire organization does. It starts with firing the architect, but doesn't stop there. Hire competent, proven baseball people who can articulate their thoughts to their underlings and the media. Then coach and train them well. If all of those things happen, so will winning.
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Since: Jun 17, 2009
Posted on: August 11, 2009 10:56 am
 

What the Mets should do

Why let Billy Wagner and Delgado rest? they won't be here anyway. As for the Johan Santana trade, the Twins knew they weren't getting anything good, because the Red Sox and Yankees weren't seriously interested in Santana. They weren't giving up their top prospect, and no other teams wanted to give Santana $137 million. So the Twins had to settle for raw talent.

Is anyone else besides me concerned about Santanas drop in velocity?



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: August 10, 2009 11:12 am
 

What the Mets should do

Really nice blog.  The only things I would disagree with is that Manuel has to go.  I think he's done as good a job as someone can do with what he's been given.  I think he's shown class.  The only strike that Manuel has in my mind is that he doesn't discipline enough when mental mistakes are made.  We've had so many mental mistakes this year, but rookies and veterans both.  I think Manuel needed to do something to teach the players more. 

While I would like to see Perez go, I'm not sure we can get rid of him.  I'm actually not in favor of trading Beltran either.  I realize he's a bloated salary but I do think he's an excellent center fielder and a solid hitter.  I don't think we'll do much better than him right now.  However, if we are to trade him and get back a slew of prospects, I might be up for it.  But I don't know who would replace him in center.  Maybe we could get Jr. from the with them eating a bunch of his salary.  He's a good center fielder, although not much of a bat though. 
I agree about Manuel, but when Omar goes, he has to go with him. The new GM should pick his guy. If he determines Manuel is fine, that's okay with me. I'd rather turn the page though.

Beltran can't cover Citifield's CF with his knees. Unless they move him to LF, it won't work. I think this injury, coupled with his mistrust of the organization and his salary, makes him a perfect guy to deal. He's getting up in age and another injury would destroy his FMV. The Mets can replace him internally if they think that much of Martinez( I don't) or go outside and deal for a player maybe like Chris Young of Arizona who is coming off a bad year and may be available. There are other options as well, but only if a new GM is installed will any of this come to fruition.

This core cannot be intact anymore. 5 years without any real success is enough. Injuries, meltdowns and questionable actions on and off the field over 5 years have IMHO hurt this team. I believe only Wright is truly a team player. Reyes is too immature, inconsistent and fundamentally unsound in his play. However, since he's younger, homegrown, coming off an injury, still affordable and has an amazing skill set, he should stay at least through 2010. Beltran has mouthed off about the Philllies and didn't back it up, he threw him team under the bus in Pittsburgh and then has sat out 2 months with an injury which quite frankly is hard to imagine someone being out that long. He also criticized the Mets handling of the situation which can't sit well with ownership. Let's not forget when he can here in 2005 and was dubbed the guy, he had his worst year and he also took a 3rd strike to end the Mets championship hopes in 2006. Whether it's fair or not, he has become the symbol or poster boy for the Mets failures. Trading him, getting real prospects and shedding his salary frees up money, bolsters the failed farm system and also gives the Mets a chance to turn the page. It would also show this organization has finally realized it's failures and won't try putting bandaids on this roster.

I cannot tell you how many hardcore Mets fans I know, hate this team as is. They've had it as I have. Change can only happen by changing the culture and that means changing the people responsible for that culture. It starts with the GM, then his underlings, then the conditioning staff and head trainer. After that, you start to move and add pieces. Change must happen or failure will occur once again.

Lastly, anyone who says be patient or this is a fluke, hasn't watched this team for the last 3 years. This isn't a one year occurance, it's 3 years since Beltran took that final strike and this organization has had humiliations on and off the field that are the worst in team history. That IMHO is not even debateable.



Since: May 30, 2008
Posted on: August 10, 2009 10:12 am
 

What the Mets should do

Starblazer -

Really nice blog.  The only things I would disagree with is that Manuel has to go.  I think he's done as good a job as someone can do with what he's been given.  I think he's shown class.  The only strike that Manuel has in my mind is that he doesn't discipline enough when mental mistakes are made.  We've had so many mental mistakes this year, but rookies and veterans both.  I think Manuel needed to do something to teach the players more. 

While I would like to see Perez go, I'm not sure we can get rid of him.  I'm actually not in favor of trading Beltran either.  I realize he's a bloated salary but I do think he's an excellent center fielder and a solid hitter.  I don't think we'll do much better than him right now.  However, if we are to trade him and get back a slew of prospects, I might be up for it.  But I don't know who would replace him in center.  Maybe we could get Jr. from the with them eating a bunch of his salary.  He's a good center fielder, although not much of a bat though. 



Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: August 8, 2009 6:27 pm
 

What the Mets should do

Bitter Mets fan chill out.     Redden i assume is Redding.   You are posting that on someone's blog ? This is his page, he is allowed to criticize whomever as much as he wants here.  You are calling someone out on a typo ?? That is laughable.

Pagan has proven he can start and and could leadoff thus allowing Reyes to bat 2nd, Pagan has to prove he can actually stay healthy for longer than two months of each season beforte you pencil him in the leadoff spot.

Putz if a free agent.
J.J. Putz's contract has an 8.6MM club option for 2010 with a 1 MM buyout.  The Mets would be smart not to pick this up. or Wagner's option either, free up some $ and solidify the rotation for now.


yes this team can compete, however after seeing the way this season went down, I think it is imperative that they make some major changes to this organization.


StarBlazer is right, this team needs to get younger and start using its draft picks, I agree with trying to shop at least one member of the core for some prospects. I would say that beltran would be the most likely as he does seem to want to compete, but is just not a leader or team guy, and seems to have a chip on shoulder with the organization based on the comments he made about the training and medical staff. I am not saying that he is wrong, just saying he may have a rift with the front office.

The Jeff Francouer trade was a good move as the team got younger and has RF pretty much taken care of for the immediate future. It seems that he likes his new surroundings. 

I would say give the catchers job to Omir Santos. I think he could to well with more talent around him in the lineup. Meaning if some our best players weren't injured I think they would pick everyone in the lineup up a bit.   Give Daniel Murphy a chance to start at 1B next yr, his D is impressive at 1B and his bat will come around.

Blazer I like your idea of Randy Wolf or Jason Marquis (hometown guy) as a #4/5 guy.  We need another lefty that is actually consistant and effective (unlike Perez) in our rotation.



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: August 7, 2009 6:09 pm
 

What the Mets should do

What the Mets should do

Bitter Mets fan chill out.  You are so upset that you just posted a bunch of non-sense as well inaccuracies.  Redden i assume is Redding.  Putz if a free agent.  Pagan has proven he can start and and could leadoff thus allowing Reyes to bat 2nd, a la Derek Jeter, and not worry about OBP so much.

Hudson will be hurt before the end of the year, that is his MO.  Just releasing players is not possible and to eat the contract of the players you want to is not realistic with this market.  The Mets didn't sell out enough games this year and are not going to be able to have te second highest payroll again next year.  It will be hard to draw free agents unless you overpay because players who want to sign a one year deal, like Hudson did this year, know they're numbers will be down at CitiField, unless you are Mark Reynolds.

As far as the pitching, yes more than one starter is needed, but Maine and Pelfrey are servicable.  Hernandez has not pitched that bad.  Maybe you should just relax and see what happens with the rest of the year.  50 games to go and the team has far from given up.

You're knowledge of baseball is as poor as your choice of avatar.



Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: August 7, 2009 3:59 pm
 

What the Mets should do

Bitter Mets fan chill out.  You are so upset that you just posted a bunch of non-sense as well inaccuracies.  Redden i assume is Redding.  Putz if a free agent.  Pagan has proven he can start and and could leadoff thus allowing Reyes to bat 2nd, a la Derek Jeter, and not worry about OBP so much.

Hudson will be hurt before the end of the year, that is his MO.  Just releasing players is not possible and to eat the contract of the players you want to is not realistic with this market.  The Mets didn't sell out enough games this year and are not going to be able to have te second highest payroll again next year.  It will be hard to draw free agents unless you overpay because players who want to sign a one year deal, like Hudson did this year, know they're numbers will be down at CitiField, unless you are Mark Reynolds.

As far as the pitching, yes more than one starter is needed, but Maine and Pelfrey are servicable.  Hernandez has not pitched that bad.  Maybe you should just relax and see what happens with the rest of the year.  50 games to go and the team has far from given up.



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: August 7, 2009 2:43 am
 

What the Mets should do

Your a Mets fan and what them to rebiuld? They don't need to. There problem is their conditioner. If they are going to trade or fire anyone, it should be him. Guys are getting hurt all over the place. Luis Castillo can't  walk down stairs, Jonathon Neise can't cover first w/o doing a split. The Mets have lost Jose Reyes, Carlos Beltran and Carlos Delgado, which is about 275 runs, 70 homeruns, 100 SBs and 275 Rbis. Now that is a lot for any teamWho hires their conditioner? It's not just him, it's their  entire medical staff, farm system and communications staff. They draft poorly, train their players poorly and have mediocre coaching as well. It's a triumvirate of failure.

Carlos Delgado is oft-injured, had a hip impingement coming into the season and was 37. Do you think maybe he'd be on the DL? Where was his back-up in case? Fernando Tatis?

What about the OF? Murphy and Church weren't hurt, but simply not good enough there. What about the rotation? Perez and Hernandez at the back end? What contending team thinks they're good enough to win? Maine was coming off shoulder surgery, so coming in he was a question mark. Instead of getting a quality starter like Lowe and picking up local boy Marquis who wanted to come here, he wastes 36 million on an enigma like Perez and signs a washed up Garcia to be the #5 starter. He adds Redding and Hernandez for depth. Redding isn't depth, he's garbage. Livan is no longer able to go a full season. He collapsed last year and has a 5+ ERA right now. Stupid decisions before the season doomed this team. The injuries just made the death quicker.

How about teams that have injured players getting help from their farm system?  The Mets bring up Evans(a AAA player at best), Martinez(a totally rushed and unimpressive player), Argenis Reyes( did nothing), Nelson Figueroa(35 year-old journeyman), Elmer Desseins( yeah, his name is Elmer), Cory Sullivan(cut by the Rox), Angel Berroa( cut by the Yankees) and Roberto Cancel(talk about a perfect last name) among others. Not one player from the minors did diddly squat. 3 of their top 5 farm clubs are in dead last. Their top 2 affiliates have the 1st and 3rd worst record in all of the minors.

When the foundation crumbles you blame the architect. Then you hire a new one with better credentials and a sound plan. That's what needed. Any true Met fan would understand that. Any baseball fan knows you are only as good as your organization. The Mets over-and-over again have proven to be a laughingstock from their owners, to their GM to their assistant GM to their managers. It's the Wilpon's legacy.

If you think Delgado and Beltran and Reyes make such a difference, how come this team failed to win in 2007 and 2008 when they were mostly healthy? In fact, those guys did little down-the-stretch in either year. Of those 3, only Reyes should return. Delgado is old and he's a free-agent. Letting him go is easy. Beltran is about to be 34, has had operations on both his knees and they've cost him this year. He plays in spacious Citifield where that stress on his knees will only worsen them hurting him in the field, at the plate and on the base paths. You want to tell me he's going to play 155 games next year and be the Beltran of old? I don't buy it. He's coming to the end of his contract here and he's making 19 million this team can use to procure a front-line starter and/of power hitting left fielder. Beltran still has value especially to an AL team(because he can DH to save his knees) like the Chisox and could bring back some real prospects which this organization sorely lacks.

This team isn't losing because of injuries alone. They failed in 2007 and 2008 and really even in 2006. They lack leadership, depth and an organizational plan. All 3 must be addressed before this team can truly compete with the top teams in MLB.



Since: Oct 9, 2008
Posted on: August 7, 2009 12:25 am
 

What the Mets should do

Your a Mets fan and what them to rebiuld? They don't need to. There problem is their conditioner. If they are going to trade or fire anyone, it should be him. Guys are getting hurt all over the place. Luis Castillo can't  walk down stairs, Jonathon Neise can't cover first w/o doing a split. The Mets have lost Jose Reyes, Carlos Beltran and Carlos Delgado, which is about 275 runs, 70 homeruns, 100 SBs and 275 Rbis. Now that is a lot for any team. 



Since: Jul 11, 2008
Posted on: August 6, 2009 11:12 pm
 

What the Mets should do

amen. hope the wilpons see how poorly the team is run, and how many players they pay to underperform and sit on the DL. just awful



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: August 6, 2009 7:44 pm
 

What the Mets should do

What the Mets should do

Minus the injuries, the Mets are not a bad team. I think everyone is too quick to want to start over. If this was any other team they would be at least 15 games under.

They're bad. Quick? This core has been together for 5 years. If they had any other GM, they'd have made moves to shore up the middle infield, get a corner OF with pop and address a backend of the rotation which had guys like Redding and Figueroa starting.

They're 5 games under. Are we suppose to be proud of that? Are we suppose to be proud losing 3 of 4 to the horrid D-backs? Are we suppose to be proud being humiliated by the Phillies in a 3 game series scoring only 3 runs? Are we suppose to be proud of losing 5 of 6 to the Yankees and one of those games being lost on a routine pop-up, my 11 year-old would catch?

It's not just the injuries. That's a convenient excuse. Omar and company used that in 2007 and 2008. Using it a 3rd time just illustrates how utterly unprepared they are.


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