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Reyes

Posted on: May 15, 2011 7:32 pm
Edited on: May 15, 2011 7:35 pm
 

Today, Skier and I had an argument regarding Reyes and Wright. Skier trashed Wright to pump up Reyes and I don't get this argument. The re-signing of Reyes isn't about Wright, but rather the fact the Mets would have to put out an additional 90 million or so for a player who is talented, but flawed. Wright on the other hand, is signed through 2013 and the club holds options. Reyes holds the option of free-agency and the Mets are at his mercy. Even trading Wright doesn't mean Sandy would want to allocate 90 million to a player who has an up-and -down past, is fundamentally flawed(he hates that) and at times seems disinterested or disconnected(picked off 3 times already this year).

In a perfect world, the Mets would deal Beltran and Rodriguez and re-sign Reyes. I want him back as do most Mets fans. However, some feel they need to pit him against Wright. Trashing one homegrown Met to support another makes no sense. It's all about circumstances and timing. Reyes is a would-be free-agent and looking to get about 15 million a year for 5-6 years. That means putting out 75-90 million. That's a lot for a non-slugger who has been oft-injured, disinterested at times and quite frankly is not a good fundamental player. The Mets also need those funds to get players, especially pitchers. Jose is fast, has great range and a gun. He's a triple machine. That's why he's going to get the money. However, when you factor in the Mets financial woes(which won't be solved by July 31) and the money they'll have to allocate long term, it's obvious who is getting dealt. Reyes can also bring back starting pitching. Though he may be a rental, teams like Boston, LA-ANA and SF may be willing to do that for a player they believe can help them win a WS. They may also believe they'll re-sign him.

Fans are looking for equal value. That's not going to happen. However, you can get real value for him and that's up to the GM to ensure that. Having Ricciardi and DePodesta helps. They know the MLB minor league systems. If the Mets can bring back a MLB ready young starter and one of 2 solid prospects, it may pay off. The Mets also have Tejada in the minors and he's been hitting better. 3 HRS-18 RBI-.271 isn't great, but he's a terrific defensive player and has a ton of poise. He's also very young. The Mets also have Wilmer Flores who seems to finally be coming around. Some see him as an OF, but perhaps he is the future SS with Tejada sliding to 2B. It's not like there aren't any possible players to step in and do a solid job. They don't have to match his offensive production, but being solid could be enough, if the Mets add the right pieces in the deal.

We all would like Reyes here, but does he want to return? What if he's not dealt and he leaves on his own? The Mets get 2 high draft picks, but that'll take more time to get them into and through the system. At least with prospects(and hopefully an MLB starter), you have numbers and performance to evaluate on a professional level.

In the end, I feel Reyes will be dealt. That doesn't mean I want him to be dealt. I don't. I've always liked Jose, warts and all. He loves the game and is a spark plug. I have always dreamt of Reyes and Wright sitting on the mound, drinking champagne like Darling, HOJO and Elster did in 1986. Remember that? However, the reality is this team will be .500 or under on 7/31 and have little/no shot at the post-season and won't chance Reyes walking. That means he goes. Let's hope if that is so, real talent comes back. Pitching talent is needed desperately. Reyes could aid in that talent coming to Citifield.

So can we stop the Wright should be traded instead arguments? Do we as fans, want to be as short-sided and ignorant as the media jackals? Wright, Davis, Bay and Santana are going nowhere. Salaries, injuries and options will ensure that. Reyes being traded has to do with his upcoming free-agency, the teams financial woes and Jose's own interests. It's not an either or situation. If the situation were reversed Wright would go. That's truly the reality.

Category: MLB
Tags: NY Mets
 
Comments

Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: May 29, 2011 9:44 am
 

Reyes

I agree with pretty much everything you said about Reyes.  I think some fans forget about all of the injuries, disconnected attitude at times and terrible OBP.  Simply put, the emotional response he solicits as an "exciting" baseball player over shadows his actual abilities and true value.  I know that Sandy (assuming he has full autonomy) will trade Reyes if the Mets are out of contention.  His track record (and written word) illustrates that he does not value speed.  He values OBP and other Sabermetrics more.  He knows that once Reyes' legs go, so too does his value.  If he were more patient at the plate, things might be different.

Now, about Wright.  His back injury all but assures that he's not going ANYWHERE, and if he was going to be dealt at all, this would have been the year to do it, with 2 more years under his contract at an affordable price, at the age of 28, he would have commanded a kings ransom.  As crazy as it sounds, if Wright hadn't gotten injured, and Sandy traded Beltran and Reyes, he almost would have been crazy NOT to deal Wright.  Hear me out here...  If those two had been traded, it would have been pretty clear that the Mets were out of contention for the next 3-4 years.  By the time his contract was up, he would be 30.  Who is to say he would even re-sign?  He has all but admitted that Citi Field is more difficult to hit in, and it has completely sapped him of his opposite field power.  His statistical trends bare this out as he has become more agressive at the plate and altered his approach significantly.  After YEARS of .300+ BA and about 115 K's during his first 4 full seasons, his BA has dropped and his K rate has increased each year.  140 in his first year at Citi and 161 in his second year at Citi.  With rates like that, a .300 BA becomes unsustainable.  Simply put, this Stadium has altered his approach.  Further more, when his contract is up when he's 30, he would only have maybe 3-4 more peak years left before the decline started.  The Mets would waste his PRIME years if they re-signed him, and he would waste them playing for a team that is not in contention.

I suppose it's all a moot point now though.  Wright isn't going anywhere, and his value will never be higher than it was before he got hurt.  Worst of all, his condition could very likely become a chronic condition, and if true, will no doubt become worse as he ages.  See story here: 

Don't get me wrong.  I love Wright and Reyes.  But the bottom line is that they have been the nucleus of an underwhelming team for some time now, and if Sandy has his way without interferrence from the Wilpons (a pipe dream, I know), he would deal them if he could.

P.S.  I pray every night before I go to sleep that the Wilpons will be forced to sell this team in the next 2 years.

Well said. I think Wright will have pain, but unlike others(see Beltran) he won't use it as an excuse to miss time and also for performance. Wright will do everything he can in the off-season to stay in shape. His work ethic is inbred by his folks a policeman and a teacher. David may be a "nice guy", but he's not soft. My guess is he slims down and works on flexibility. Yoga would be ideal.

The stadium is less of a factor. He hit 29 HRS last year and this year most of his HRS have been @ home. David simply needs to move up in the box and shorten his swing with 2 strikes. Those who mock him for not being clutch fail to realize he is the all-time Mets leader in GW RBI having surpassed Mike Piazza. While not legendary clutch, he's been better than any Mets player in history over the long haul. In my opinion, David is more ticked about the choking and now losing(the last 2+ years), then his numbers. Unlike most of the Mets under the Minaya reign of error, he actually cares about his team and the fans. That and his play is the reason he won't be dealt now and in my opinion ever, unless he just has had enough. Personally, I don't think he's a quitter and he wants to win here more than anyone in any sport in this town. I think that will drive him the rest of his career.

As for the Wilpon's I hope they lose their shirt because of Madoff and Einhorn takes over. In my opinion, the Wilpon's are as bad for the sport as steroids. Only their cozy relationship with Selig keeps them in control. David Stern wouldn't have stood for this garbage.



Since: Jul 5, 2007
Posted on: May 23, 2011 12:25 am
 

Reyes

I agree with pretty much everything you said about Reyes.  I think some fans forget about all of the injuries, disconnected attitude at times and terrible OBP.  Simply put, the emotional response he solicits as an "exciting" baseball player over shadows his actual abilities and true value.  I know that Sandy (assuming he has full autonomy) will trade Reyes if the Mets are out of contention.  His track record (and written word) illustrates that he does not value speed.  He values OBP and other Sabermetrics more.  He knows that once Reyes' legs go, so too does his value.  If he were more patient at the plate, things might be different.

Now, about Wright.  His back injury all but assures that he's not going ANYWHERE, and if he was going to be dealt at all, this would have been the year to do it, with 2 more years under his contract at an affordable price, at the age of 28, he would have commanded a kings ransom.  As crazy as it sounds, if Wright hadn't gotten injured, and Sandy traded Beltran and Reyes, he almost would have been crazy NOT to deal Wright.  Hear me out here...  If those two had been traded, it would have been pretty clear that the Mets were out of contention for the next 3-4 years.  By the time his contract was up, he would be 30.  Who is to say he would even re-sign?  He has all but admitted that Citi Field is more difficult to hit in, and it has completely sapped him of his opposite field power.  His statistical trends bare this out as he has become more agressive at the plate and altered his approach significantly.  After YEARS of .300+ BA and about 115 K's during his first 4 full seasons, his BA has dropped and his K rate has increased each year.  140 in his first year at Citi and 161 in his second year at Citi.  With rates like that, a .300 BA becomes unsustainable.  Simply put, this Stadium has altered his approach.  Further more, when his contract is up when he's 30, he would only have maybe 3-4 more peak years left before the decline started.  The Mets would waste his PRIME years if they re-signed him, and he would waste them playing for a team that is not in contention.

I suppose it's all a moot point now though.  Wright isn't going anywhere, and his value will never be higher than it was before he got hurt.  Worst of all, his condition could very likely become a chronic condition, and if true, will no doubt become worse as he ages.  See story here: 

Don't get me wrong.  I love Wright and Reyes.  But the bottom line is that they have been the nucleus of an underwhelming team for some time now, and if Sandy has his way without interferrence from the Wilpons (a pipe dream, I know), he would deal them if he could.

P.S.  I pray every night before I go to sleep that the Wilpons will be forced to sell this team in the next 2 years.


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