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The end of Papi? or just Rust?

Posted on: April 22, 2009 6:30 pm

O.K., this is a painful post for me, but here goes.  Not liking the sinking stats for David Ortiz this season.  I know, I know. its only April and he will heat up in the warm months.  But what if he does not?  Seriously.  Last season's .264/23/89 numbers were disappointing, but the ALCS .154/1/4 with 9 strike outs was terrifying.  So now here we are in April of 09, .196/0/6 with 15 strikeouts.  As of today, only 14 total bases, that is less than his K's.  Worse, only 3 extra base hits.  Trend?  I know, I know, no reason to panic right? 

So here is my case, ready Sox fans.  The Wrist.  What injury basically ended Nomar's career.  Well, the part of his career worth mentioning that is.   For a power hitter, this is as bad of an injury as one can sustain.  They claim it is "repaired", but do we really know?  Watching him at the plate one has to question it.  Slow swings, inability to drive the ball.  Something is not right.   Again, all in my head right?

His age.  Could it be that Big Papi is just a tad older than he claims?  We have seen it before with Dominican players and fudged ages.  Is David maybe just a little closer to 40 the we think?  His physical battles seem to indicate that maybe there may just be some merit to this claim.  34 years old and does not play the field is hardly strenuous on the body.  38-40, a bit more so.  Impossible, of course?

In summation I am sure summer will come and these fears will be proven false.  That they are just the April kinks getting worked out, much like Sabbathia and his slow start.  But as a Red Sox fan, I am not liking what I am seeing from the 3 hole.  Not hitting the panic button, but am concerned that maybe things will be a bit tougher than forecasted.  I am sure Sox fans will hammer me for this, LOL.



Category: MLB

Since: Feb 18, 2008
Posted on: June 2, 2010 3:05 pm

The end of Papi? or just Rust?


If you read this you would have realized you were responding to a blog from over 1 year ago.

Good 1 Duke4you!!!

Since: Mar 2, 2007
Posted on: March 23, 2010 6:05 pm

The end of Papi? or just Rust?

Old tired and done!

GO O's!!!

Since: Feb 18, 2008
Posted on: May 20, 2009 12:20 pm

The end of Papi? or just Rust?

I hope the Jays stay tough.  Tougher teams in the division make every team play better.  As for Papi, there is clearly more at play than Steroids.  Roids can account for loss of bat speed, but not his total lack of hitting.  It isn't that he is getting beat by overpowering fast balls, and is unable to get the bat around, he is flat out missing the ball.  Many times by 6-8 inches.  He is getting fooled on change-ups, and sliders, leaving him looking silly.  Steroids could be a contributing factor to a loss of power, but not his a total lack of hitting.  The number of strikeouts has been horrifying

Since: Jan 9, 2008
Posted on: May 20, 2009 11:23 am

The end of Papi? or just Rust?

I am not a Sox fan but I am NOT here to be a flamming troll.  But I just wanted to add that I was thinking about this last night (did he used to juice) when the Sox were playing my Jays, and I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that Papi was juicing.  For all I know he starts to get hot and still ends up with 35 homers but he truly doesn't look the same right now...  There may be many players who used to juice and now don't, fearing their demise in the baseball world.  But who knows, I hope he didn't because it just seems like so many great players did - it really sucks for baseball.
Should be an interesting game tonight when the Jays send young Brett Cecil against your Sox in Fenway.  He is a great prospect for the Jays and has been real good since being promoted to the Bigs (even though he was thought by most to still be at least a year away).  I'm just worried how he will hold up on the road in the hostile environment of Fenway.  Should be an interesting game.  This has been the most exciting Jays season for Jays fans in a long long time... Such a damn tough division damnit!

Since: Oct 27, 2007
Posted on: May 16, 2009 5:28 pm

The end of Papi? or just Rust?

maybe just maybe the big papi  was a juice buddy with manny , just before he left . there is no reason for the sharp decline in just mear months,  is there ???..he cant keep up with a fast ball and has no power what to speak of. maybe  the sox should just send him down  to aaa  and let him work on his swing  . he has been just terrible.leaving 12 on base with a 0-7 night was the frosting on the cake  ..  what a pisser  it is to have had the best one two punch  in the game  and now  one is busted for the needle and the other has just plain stunk....

Since: Feb 18, 2008
Posted on: April 27, 2009 5:41 pm

The end of Papi? or just Rust?

So last thought/question, do you think the WBC has contributed in any part to his slow start? 

The WBC is a joke and serves no purpose other than to take down athletes for the real baseball season.  It is particularly harsh on pitchers.  Look at the players that have been injured over the past two seasons.  I think MLB should compensate any franchise that has a player that gets hurt.  Many of the smaller market teams can be devastated by this, and not everyone can be the Yankees and spend 240 million to fill the holes.  If I were an owner/manager, I would do everything in my power and then some to keep my players, my investments from participating.

Since: May 14, 2008
Posted on: April 24, 2009 6:10 pm

The end of Papi? or just Rust?

Some good and valid questions Gastrapod, so nope, no hammering from this Sox least you didn't go through the 'roid accusations that some of the other CBS jokers have posted.

I'm not ready to go down your line of thinking just yet.  There needs to be a larger sample size before I'm willing to to say that Papi is in such a rapid, injury filled decline.  I'm going to go by what my eyes tell me right now and ignore the stats for the short term.  Papi may no longer be a Fantasy force, but I don't see him declining to the point where he is going to hurt the Sox lineup as much as folks have been suggesting.

When I see him at the plate, I still see good bat speed and he has driven some balls better as of late than earlier in the season.  Just missed a homer the other night....and there was that dive into 3rd with no hesitation or grimacing afterwards that lends me to think he is just needs to get more at bats to properly work out the kinks.  His issues seem more timing and mechanics related.  I wonder if he would go the way of Jason Varitek and shorten his swing somewhat would help him hit the ball with more regularity.  He's probably lose some power though and at that point, what would his value be at DH?

You've got a good point about his age.  That wouldn't surprise me one bit actually.  I have to wonder if his not playing the field lends to some of these issues though.  He's not warming up from inning to inning beyond his at-bat stretching.  It would be an interesting analysis should someone have the where with all to put it together to see how DH'ing affects the body versus the everyday player in the field.

So last thought/question, do you think the WBC has contributed in any part to his slow start? 

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