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Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

Posted on: April 18, 2009 4:07 pm
 

 Welcome back my friends to the blog that never ends, we're so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside

I should have started one of my rock and roll blog entries with that line.  Anyway, I hope you all enjoyed your Easter holiday and its time for me to get back to presenting you the greatest baseball players of all time for you to vote in the greatest team.  This week we will decide on the greatest third baseman.  My list includes all 10 of the third basemen in the hall of fame plus Chipper Jones who in my opinion should be in this discussion as well.  Before you ask "Where's Alex Rodriguez?", I already did the research and Alex still has logged about 500 more games at shortstop, so hold your horses until the next round.   I've research both the career offensive and defensive stats for these 11 players.  Rather than using the players actual fielding percentage I'm using a +/- system in comparing their defensive skills to that of players in their era.  I'm using the same system for each players range.   In the early 1900s infields were poorly manicured compared to modern standards and gloves were much smaller, so fielding percentages were much lower in the 20th century. 

Last week I posed the question as to whether or not Pete Rose should be a substitute or a bench player on my 25 man roster.   The number of replies and votes were light, but the content of those who opined was very solid and informative.   I'd like to leave that issue up for a vote for at least another week, as I'd like a larger sampling to make a determination, so please, if you haven't done so already, please go to my previous entry, read the posts and cast your vote.

Without further ado, here is the list of the 11 greatest third baseman of all time...Pick your number 1.

        PLAYER                                AVE/OBP/SLUG     HR    RBI    Runs    SB      Hits     FldgPct   Range

  • Frank (Homerun) Baker      .307/.363/.442      96     987     887    235    1838    +.07      +.19
  • Wade Boggs                     .328/.415/443       118   1014   1513     24    3010    +.12      +.29
  • George Brett                     .305/.373/.487      317   1595   1583    201   3154     -.02      +.40
  • Jimmy Collins                    .294/.344/.409       65    983    1055    194   1999    +.25      +.29
  • George Kell                       .306/.368/.414       78    870      881     51    2054    +.16      +.09
  • Freddie Lindstrom              .311/.351/.449      103   779      895     84    1747    +.12      +.11
  • Eddie Matthews                  .271/.378/.509      509   1453   1509    68    2315    +.06      +.24
  • Brooks Robinson                .267/.325/.401      268   1357   1232    28    2848    +.19      +.36
  • Mike Schmidt                     .267/.384/.527      548   1595   1506   174    2234   +.06      +.55
  • Pie Traynor                        .320/.362/.435       58   1273    1183   158   2416    even     +.30
  • Chipper Jones                    .310/.407/.548      409   1378   1382   138   2285    +.02      -.21
Category: MLB
Comments

Since: Apr 29, 2008
Posted on: April 20, 2009 12:25 am
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

Hey Lazer, long time no see.

The answer to this one is simple.  Brooks Robinson , hands down.  He played in a pitcher's era, yet he still amassed nearly 3,000 hits.  And let's face it, a career batting average of .267 is pretty good for a guy who played 23 seasons...and his average was over .300 for his postseason career.

He won 16 Gold Gloves and was voted to 15 All Star games .  He was the league MVP , World Series MVP , and All-Star MVP -- each in a different season!  He played on two World Series Championship teams and two runner-ups.  He was selected to the Major League Baseball All-Century Team (along with Mike Schmidt...I think it's worth noting that no one else on the list made the All-Century Team, although George Brett was close).

Regarding his nickname of "The Human Vacuum Cleaner," check out these quotes:

"Very nice (play)...where do they plug Mr. Hoover in?" - Lee May

"That kid plays third base like he came down from a higher league." - Umpire Ed Runge

"I'm beginning to see Brooks (Robinson) in my sleep. If I dropped a paper plate, he'd pick it up on one hop and throw me out at first." - Sparky Anderson

"Brooks never had a candy bar named after him. In Baltimore, people named their children after him." - Gordon Beard

And, my personal favorite...he won the 1970 World Series MVP, completely dismantling the Big Red Machine's great hitters -- he also won a Toyota as part of the award, and Reds catcher Johnny Bench said, "Gee! If we had known he wanted a new car that bad, we'd have chipped in and bought him one."




Since: Feb 3, 2008
Posted on: April 19, 2009 11:39 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

George Brett 




Since: Apr 29, 2007
Posted on: April 19, 2009 10:09 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

I'm a little prejudiced, but I vote for George Brett.  He was one of the best clutch hitters and one of the few, if not the only one to win a batting title in 3 different decades.  Also, he worked hard enough at his fielding to earn a Gold Glove in the mid 80s, and take a look at his stolen base numbers too.

 




Since: Feb 27, 2008
Posted on: April 19, 2009 9:09 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

 Schmidt is clearly the best. It would be a joke if Brett won, when Schmidt was clearly better on both sides of the ball. Unless you're an idiot that looks at BA to judge hitters, there is no way you can choose Brett.

What about doubles, triples, steals, hits, and runs... oh yah and batting average?  They even tied in RBIs.   So would I still be an idiot and you a genuis because you picked the guy with more homers and gold gloves?   I dont think there is a "joke" regardless of who wins.

 




Since: Apr 14, 2009
Posted on: April 19, 2009 7:59 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

Schmidt is clearly the best. It would be a joke if Brett won, when Schmidt was clearly better on both sides of the ball. Unless you're an idiot that looks at BA to judge hitters, there is no way you can choose Brett.

 

 




Since: Mar 23, 2009
Posted on: April 19, 2009 7:31 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

Huge Schmidt fan but when you break it down, you gotta go with BRETT.....If Schmidt
struck out less he would have had it in the bag....Go Phils......RIP HK 




Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2009 4:34 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

 

 Though his fielding is a liability to the club, I'm going to have to say George Brett. His fielding was weak but his offensive numbers dwarf some of the other options here. He was always playing, not too injury prone, and was pretty handy in tight situations (clutch).




Since: Mar 24, 2008
Posted on: April 19, 2009 2:06 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

As much as I would love to vote for somebody other than Mike Schmidt... reality is that this is not really close... he is head and shoulders above the rest of the list...

Love George and his passion... think Chipper is overlooked for all that he has done... especially the winning % of his teams... Matthews and Robinson had their moments, but not consistent enough to be seriously considered...

Thanks for including the old timers... Baker and Kell often mentioned... as a Pirate fan, glad that Pie Traynor made the list... he is sometimes forgotten in these discussions...wicked stick and played in a huge and I mean huge park (Forbes Field) not a lot of HR's there...

Another position down... and we move to Short??? 

 




Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: April 19, 2009 11:53 am
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

I am going to go with George Brett.  Keep it up Lazer!

-M.M.

Sorry to not elaborate on any of these posts.  I won't even pretend to know as much about the ins and outs of baseball as I do rock music.UndecidedSmile




Since: Dec 7, 2007
Posted on: April 19, 2009 2:22 am
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

I will stand up and be a KC homer as well and vote for George Brett.  Mike Schmidt was a close second.  Forget all the stats, George just wanted to win more than anyone in the majors except for Hal McRae and Billy Martin.  Seeing him play as much as I did made me appriecate his talents and the effort he gave every night.  Mike was probably close to the same way, but playing in Philly made it difficult for mid-western
ers to watch him play everyday.  Had George played in NY, Philly, or Boston, he'd probably be considered the greatest hands down.



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