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Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

Posted on: April 18, 2009 4:07 pm
 

 Welcome back my friends to the blog that never ends, we're so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside

I should have started one of my rock and roll blog entries with that line.  Anyway, I hope you all enjoyed your Easter holiday and its time for me to get back to presenting you the greatest baseball players of all time for you to vote in the greatest team.  This week we will decide on the greatest third baseman.  My list includes all 10 of the third basemen in the hall of fame plus Chipper Jones who in my opinion should be in this discussion as well.  Before you ask "Where's Alex Rodriguez?", I already did the research and Alex still has logged about 500 more games at shortstop, so hold your horses until the next round.   I've research both the career offensive and defensive stats for these 11 players.  Rather than using the players actual fielding percentage I'm using a +/- system in comparing their defensive skills to that of players in their era.  I'm using the same system for each players range.   In the early 1900s infields were poorly manicured compared to modern standards and gloves were much smaller, so fielding percentages were much lower in the 20th century. 

Last week I posed the question as to whether or not Pete Rose should be a substitute or a bench player on my 25 man roster.   The number of replies and votes were light, but the content of those who opined was very solid and informative.   I'd like to leave that issue up for a vote for at least another week, as I'd like a larger sampling to make a determination, so please, if you haven't done so already, please go to my previous entry, read the posts and cast your vote.

Without further ado, here is the list of the 11 greatest third baseman of all time...Pick your number 1.

        PLAYER                                AVE/OBP/SLUG     HR    RBI    Runs    SB      Hits     FldgPct   Range

  • Frank (Homerun) Baker      .307/.363/.442      96     987     887    235    1838    +.07      +.19
  • Wade Boggs                     .328/.415/443       118   1014   1513     24    3010    +.12      +.29
  • George Brett                     .305/.373/.487      317   1595   1583    201   3154     -.02      +.40
  • Jimmy Collins                    .294/.344/.409       65    983    1055    194   1999    +.25      +.29
  • George Kell                       .306/.368/.414       78    870      881     51    2054    +.16      +.09
  • Freddie Lindstrom              .311/.351/.449      103   779      895     84    1747    +.12      +.11
  • Eddie Matthews                  .271/.378/.509      509   1453   1509    68    2315    +.06      +.24
  • Brooks Robinson                .267/.325/.401      268   1357   1232    28    2848    +.19      +.36
  • Mike Schmidt                     .267/.384/.527      548   1595   1506   174    2234   +.06      +.55
  • Pie Traynor                        .320/.362/.435       58   1273    1183   158   2416    even     +.30
  • Chipper Jones                    .310/.407/.548      409   1378   1382   138   2285    +.02      -.21
Category: MLB
Comments

Since: Sep 2, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2009 1:12 am
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

 I have always been a fan of Pie Traynor.  And Brooks Robinson was soooo good.  He was the best fielding 3B ever.  But if I had to pick one guy to have on my team, I would have to pick;

MIKE SCHMIDT




Since: Feb 27, 2008
Posted on: April 18, 2009 10:46 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

George is the ONLY player in MLB history to have 3000 hits, 300 HRs, 600 doubles, 100 triples, 200 SBs, and 1500 RBIs... or something like that.  I cant remember exactly what it is but something like that.  




Since: Apr 18, 2009
Posted on: April 18, 2009 10:04 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

It has to be my man George Brett. He is the only third baseman to put up 300+ HR,3000+ Hits, and have .300 Batting Average and on top of that he put 200+ SB. This guy was incredible hands down one of the best 3B.

 




Since: Sep 4, 2008
Posted on: April 18, 2009 10:01 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

I know the numbers don`t support my pick however i think that Brooks Robinson was the greatest 3rd baseman of all time. I have nothing but good memories watching Brooks play his entire career in Baltimore, there was no better defensive 3rd baseman ever, the Human Vacuum Cleaner was his nick name. He was Mr. Cluch, no one had more timely hits than Brooks. He played in a pitching era but still had good numbers for the time, no roids only natural skill. If you could have seen Brooks play you would pick him too ! 2nd place goes to Mike Schmidt, if i lived in Philly he would win but i don`t . 3rd place goes to George Brett, Mr. Pinetar. 




Since: Mar 8, 2007
Posted on: April 18, 2009 7:12 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

Hey Lazer. Thank you for your blog and I very much appreciate the time you put in to give us the stats and information. I thought I was gonna have a pretty much homer vote until I saw the stats.  He leads in RBIs, Runs and Hits. That's pretty impressive. And, I think he developed into a fine defensive 3B winning a Gold Glove in that magical 1985 season. He's one of if not my favorite player of all time. My vote is for the Kansas City Royals Major League Baseball Hall of Famer:  George Brett.




Since: Feb 27, 2008
Posted on: April 18, 2009 6:10 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

Personal or not I give the nod to George Brett.   To me this is clearly a 2 horse race and whether you choose Brett or Schmidt it isn't decisive either way.   Mike was the better defensive player for much of his career but Brett worked hard and made himself one of the league's best.   Offensively you have one who reached the 500 HR plateau and another who reached the 3000 hit milestone.  The hit mark is more impressive to me personally but part of that is due to what the steroid era has done to the game.   Brett had over 200 more doubles and nearly 80 more triples, more stolen bases and runs scored and Schmidt struck out over twice as much. 

Overall for me it comes down to clutchness.. and my childhood idol.




Since: Apr 4, 2008
Posted on: April 18, 2009 5:57 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

True and personal story.  When I was 12 or 13 years old I got the chance to talk to George Brett one-on-one for about 15-20 minutes and its a memory I'll never forget.   Brett was still an up and comer at the time, he was in his second or third full season with the Royals at the time.  He was very friendly and engaging and shared a few stories of both his big league play and some of his younger days.  He is will probably always be my favorite player of all time. 

I've attended enough games in the past 35-40 years at Kaufman Stadium, that I've had the chance to watch other greats such as Griffey, Sosa, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Nolan Ryan, Carlton Fisk, Curt Schilling, Mark McGwire and dozens of other all-stars and I'll stand fast to my belief that Brett was the best player I ever saw in person.   However, I will not let my personal biases stand in the way.  Since Mike Schmidt never played in the AL, I never got a chance to see him in person.  I have to give Schmidt the slight edge over George because of Schmidt's fielding abilities.   Schmidt gets the overall nod, but nobody was a better clutch hitter than George Brett.




Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: April 18, 2009 5:45 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

Based on statistics alone I think I'm gonna go with George Brett. Mr. Pine Tar's fielding percentage is the worst of all 3rd Basemen on the list but his offensi
ve stats could make up for mistakes made in the field. He was also a pretty durable player. He didn't seem to get hurt a lot and if he was then he must have played through it more times than not. Larry "Chipper" Jones runs a very close second for me but there are issues of durability there that just can't be overcome.

Count my vote for George Brett!!!

Now about those felines of yours. It wouldn't surprise me one bit that they might be slipping some Bailey's in the morning java on you because when I was a kid my family had a cat, his name was Reggie Jackson by the way (long story), that drank my Dad's beer after my parent's had gone to bed. They're sneaky critters!!!Innocent 

 




Since: May 1, 2007
Posted on: April 18, 2009 5:44 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

It should read: "Brett tearing out of the KC dugout."

Billy Martin was such a calculating SOB.  He was waiting for the right moment to "helpfully" bring to the umpire's attention that "rules violation."

A smidgen of pine tar perhaps a inch too long.   And they brought out a tape measure for proof.
All the while Brett was jumping around like a man possessed! 

 




Since: May 1, 2007
Posted on: April 18, 2009 5:21 pm
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

My choice will come from the players I've seen in person or on TV.  Difficult choice, given how close they are in productivity.  Brooks Robinson may be the best contemporary glovemaster, but his batting does not hold up to the others.   Ed Mathews and Michael Jack Schmidt are matched up in the batting dept. But like many sluggers, they waste plate appearances with too many K's.   (Wasted opportunities)  
Boggs and Chipper Jones are matched in OBP.  (Opportunities used) Mathews, Schmidt, and Jones in SLG. (Dramatic opportunities)
Boggs wasted very little opportunity.  OBP and runs scored. 

But, in tribute to Lazer  Wright's dedication to baseball I chose:

George Brett-  a clutch hitter and all-around intense player.

Brett tearing out of the Royals when Billy Martin attempted to disallow the homer vs.the NYY is a true classic! 
And I just liked Brett's approach to the game.

PS-  What 3rd baseman with three World Series Rings is not on the list?

"Captain Sal" Bando of the Oakland Athletics (and KC, too.) 
Sorry, I'm an A's fan...   

 



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