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Vote For 3 Best Reserve INFIELDERS of All Time

Posted on: June 7, 2009 8:35 pm
Of course these guys we're voting for here were never reserves, they're just reserves for my all-time team.  There is a reason we're voting for 3 reserves even though there are 4 infield spots.   About 2 months ago, Pete Rose was voted in as a reserve.  He split his time between the outfield, 1st, 2nd and 3rd base.   I'm thinking since Rose spent most of his career as an infielder that he should be a reserve infielder on my team, rather than an outfielder.   I am NOT considering him as a viable reserve as a shortstop, so I'll ask you all to please make one of your 3 votes for a shortstop.  So for picking my bench I'll take the top vote getting shortstop and the two highest vote getters between the first, second and third basemen.    Rose then will fill in the remaining reserve infielder slot. 

Before we get to this particular list and vote, I'll announce the 3 relief pitchers that you all voted in as the greatest relief pitchers of all time.   Dennis Eckersley and Mariano Rivera tied with 14 votes as the top 2 picks.   Trevor Hoffman garnered 7 votes to win the third spot by a narrow margin over Goose Gossage and Rollie Fingers who each received 5 votes.  I'd say I have a pretty astute group of voters.   To me, Eck and Mo had to be in the top 3.   Hoffman, Gossage, Fingers, Wagner, Sutter, Wilhelm, Quisenberry and Henke would have all been suitable options for the third spot.   

Now before we get to pick the top 3 reserves to join Pete Rose on the infield, let me refresh your memories as to who the starters are just in case you're using that in helping you make your picks.   The all-time greatest infield consists of Lou Gehrig at first, Rogers Hornsby at second, George Brett at third and Honus Wagner at shortstop.   

I'm also making a change in representing the player stats.   One of you posters pointed out that doing a 162 game average may be a more accurate indicator in comparing players than career stats do, so for the purpose of this blog entry, I'm going to give the 162 game average a I tend to believe that poster was right.    I also want to pay my e-respects and e-sympathy for one of my regular blog buddies and fellow Royals poster, MajorE.Reckshun.  Major got banned this past week.   After being a CBS member for 6 months and making superstar, suddenly his screen name became too inappropriate for CBSs...ahem...high standards.   I remember him for his quick witted sense of humor and respect for other members.    The dude knew his sports too, I'll miss Major.   

Okay, without further ado, lets get to the vote.   Remember, just vote for 3 and please make one of your votes for a shortstop.   Also remember, these stats reflect a 162 game average...

PLAYER                    POS     AVE/OBP/SLUG     HR     RBI      Runs     SB       Fldg +/-      Range +/-

Jimmie Foxx             1B       325/428/609       37      134      122       6        +.02           +1.94
Albert Pujols              1B       335/426/626       42      128      124       7        +.01           +2.72
Eddie Murray             1B       287/359/476       27      103       87        6        +.01           +2.76
Johnny Mize              1B       312/397/562       31      115       115      2         +.02           +1.95
Hank Greenberg        1B       313/412/605       38      148       122      7         +.01          +2.79

Nap Lajoie                 2B       338/380/467       5        104       98       25        +.15           +.69
Jackie Robinson         2B      311/409/474       16       86        111      23        +.09           +.24
Eddie Collins              2B      333/424/429        3        75        104      43        +.13           +.24
Ryne Sandberg          2B      285/344/452        21      79         99       26         +.09          +.63

Mike Schmidt             3B      267/380/527        37      107       101      12         +.06          +.55
Brooks Robinson        3B      266/322/401        15      76         69        2          +.19          +.36
Wade Boggs              3B      328/415/443         8       67         100       2          +.12          +.29
Chipper Jones           3B       310/408/486        32      109       110      11         +,02          +.07

Cal Ripken                SS       276/340/447        23      91         89        2          +.11          +.56
Ernie Banks               SS       274/330/500        33     105        84        3          +.08          +.44
Ozzie Smith              SS       262/337/328         2       50         79       37         +13           +.93

There's the list, have fun everyone!

Category: MLB

Since: Feb 24, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2009 8:47 pm

Vote For 3 Best Reserve INFIELDERS of All Time

Cal Ripken at Short
Hank Greenberg and Mike Schmidt off the bench as well

Since: Mar 8, 2007
Posted on: June 8, 2009 8:34 pm

Vote For 3 Best Reserve INFIELDERS of All Time

Great job again and as always getting this together Lazer. I really appreciate the stats. There are some interesting choices among this list for reserve infielders. A vote for Albert Pujols, though I'm very hesitant to take an active player. Time must put things into perspective. Jimmie Foxx would be a great choice too. Another vote for Mike Schmidt. He was truly great. Finally, a vote for Ernie Banks. Mr Cub could play some other infield positions and what if there's a double header? I wouldn't have voted for Pete Rose. Thanks for your hard work Lazer and for everyone's comments.

Since: Dec 11, 2006
Posted on: June 8, 2009 8:18 pm

Vote For 3 Best Reserve INFIELDERS of All Time

Heya Lazer!

Bad deadhead!!  I haven't made any picks since 3B...  Gotta pay more attention over here!  And very happy to see you are still building the team.  Looking forward to a posting of the final roster.

Tough choices here.  I really feel like leaving some of these guys off is an insult, and it isn't.  Just too many great players in the game.

1st pick is Mike Schmidt .  And a homer pick maybe.  I grew up watching the dude but doing so know how great he was.  He was a clutch hitter despite that career average.  Always a threat to go deep and change a game.  And a gold glover year after year.  Was my pick to start at this position, so gotta be at least a reserve.

2nd would be Cal Ripken .  Durable indeed and then some and broke the consective games streak playing two very demanding positions.  And he played both of them very well. 

And this is not modern day bias, but just look how those numbers compare.  3rd pick is Albert Pujois .  Wow.  Amazing how they stack up among the greats.  Talk about a needed bat off the bench.  Dude has solid numbers across the board!  There is the one guy in todays game that is a year in year out triple crown threat.

Thanks again Lazer!! 

Since: Mar 23, 2009
Posted on: June 8, 2009 7:07 pm

Vote For 3 Best Reserve INFIELDERS of All Time

Albert Pujols..great even sittin on the bench.

Nap Lajoie..late inning defense and speed...that kinda range...playing with a sock for a doubt.

Ozzie Smith..late inning defense and speed.

Scored likely 14-2 8th inning...we got enough power...wanted to preserve some era's.


Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2009 4:30 pm

Vote For 3 Best Reserve INFIELDERS of All Time

Albert Pujols, Jackie Robinson, and Cal Ripken...

Since: Mar 29, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2009 3:44 pm

Vote For 3 Best Reserve INFIELDERS of All Time

Albert Pujols--Wow, what a pitch hitter/defensive replacement.  When it is said and done he might be a starter on the next generations team.

Jackie Robinson--speed.  He seems to be the best base stealer who might also have some pop.  Could play third or second.

Ozzie Smith--I'm an Ernie Banks fan but I've got to have Ozzie's glove from the 7th inning on.

Since: Feb 11, 2007
Posted on: June 8, 2009 3:31 pm

Vote For 3 Best Reserve INFIELDERS of All Time

Hey Lazer, thanks once again for putting all of this together. I wish I could have vote on the last couple blogs, but life happens.  I am going to change up my thought process for the reserves. With the starters, I was looking mainly at numbers and how dominate the player was for their career and took into consideration the era they played in.  With the reserves I think the best way to go is with their versatility. I have to start with Cal Ripkin as the Shortstop.  He was great both offensively and defensively and also showed the ability to play multiple positions by finishing his career up at 3rd base.  My second choice is Chipper Jones. He has also played multiple positions and is a switch hitter.  My final choice is Ryne Sandberg. He can also play multiple positions, although the majority of his career he was at 2nd base. He was one of the best offensive 2nd basemen of his time winning multiple Silver Slugger awards and equally talented in the field winning multiple Gold Gloves.  There ya have it.  As this team continues to get formed, I have to wonder how much money in today's era it would have taken to sign everyone. It might make the Yankees look like bargan hunters.

Since: Feb 18, 2009
Posted on: June 8, 2009 3:23 pm

Vote For 3 Best Reserve INFIELDERS of All Time

I also want to pay my e-respects and e-sympathy for one of my regular blog buddies and fellow poster, MajorE.Reckshun.  Major got banned this past week.  
   Not to worry, Lazer.  Unlike the real world there are e-reincarnations.  Wink  Thanks for the nice words though.  Unfortunately that screen name will probably never return.  Funny thing is, the guy that warned "Major" for his screen name got banned last weekend for the same thing.  What a tubesteak!

Well, I'd want players who in some way complement the starters so I'd want the right handed power bat of Mike Schmidt to back up the  lefty Brett; he's also a better defensive option as well. 

I think Ozzie Smith would make a great lockdown defensive replacement for the 8th and ninth inning or brought in late to pinch run as well.  

For the final reserve, I'll have to go speed and defense again and go with Nap Lajoie.   This leaves us with Pete Rose as the back-up first baseman, which is fine.   Lou Gehrig didn't need a back-up, being the original Iron Horse.  

Since: Mar 28, 2009
Posted on: June 8, 2009 1:43 pm

Vote For 3 Best Reserve INFIELDERS of All Time

Well, I was all set to go a different way, but then decided to put this together like a baseball team.  Since Rose can play anywhere but shortstop, I'm going with Ozzie Smith for defense to back up Honus Wagner.  I don't see how I can leave out Hank Greenberg - his numbers are amazing.  So are Albert Pujols', but I'd like to see him play a bit longer.  Now that we have depth at all four infield positions, I'll go with the best offensive player left, regardless of position.  That player is Jimmie Foxx.  So, my votes go to Ozzie Smith, Hank Greenberg and Jimmie Foxx.

Since: Jan 22, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2009 12:31 pm

Vote For 3 Best Reserve INFIELDERS of All Time

Albert Pujols, and for some Gold Glove defense in the later innings when you want to preserve that lead, SS Ozzie Smith & 2B Ryne Sandberg.

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