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Posted on: August 22, 2011 1:39 pm
Edited on: August 22, 2011 2:36 pm
 

Pryor taken by OAK (3rd rd) in draft's only move

The supplemental draft always brings with it a certain amount of hype. Fans hoping that their team might add one more talented player to the roster before the season begins will always pay some attention to the event.

The 2011 supplemental draft carried even more intrigue that most, however, due to the presence of Terrelle Pryor and as well as the presence of a few other legitimate NFL-caliber prospects. The draft was for six players the NFL found eligible. Alphabetically, they are: Western Carolina cornerback Torez Jones, Georgia running back Caleb King, Lindenwood University/Allen Wranglers (IFL) defensive end Keenan Mace, North Carolina defensive end Michael McAdoo, Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor and Northern Illinois safety Tracy Wilson.

Pryor was selected by the Raiders in the third round. It is not known if any other teams put in a 3rd round bid for Pryor. Certainly none did who owned a pick higher than the Raiders, who a source charactized as picking "in the middle of the pack." The draft order is not released to the media, though I was able to learn that the Dallas Cowboys had been rewarded with the first pick and the Pittsburgh Steelers with the last one. Therefore, the Cowboys and according to the source several other clubs passed on Pryor in the third round before Oakland.***

The draft order is not determined by simply win/loss records as in the April draft. The 32 teams are placed into three groups and a weighted lottery is conducted to determine the order. For a more detailed explanation, see here.

As it turned out, Pryor was the only player selected.

Pryor has an exceptionally rare -- perhaps never before seen -- combination of size and straight-line speed for the quarterback position. He lacks the decision-making skills, anticipation and accuracy at this time, however, to enjoy consistent success as a full-time quarterback playing against NFL defenses. What he does offer is an athletic phenom capable of running, passing and receiver from specialized sets. He could be an extraordinary Wildcat option.

It will be interesting to see how the Raiders believe Pryor fits into their current roster. The team has an obvious starter in Jason Campbell and two former starters vying for the primary backup position in Kyle Boller and Trent Edwards. The team also has undrafted rookie Jordan La Secla on the roster. Most teams keep three quarterbacks during the regular seasons, so La Secla and either Boller or Edwards are likely heading to the waiver wire soon.

There is also the possibility that the Raiders are one of the teams that believes Pryor's NFL future lies at wide receiver or tight end. Al Davis' love of speed knows no bounds. There is always an opportunity to see the field in Oakland if one possesses enough speed and playmaking ability.

The five remaining players not selected can sign with any team as an undrafted free agent. King, Mace and McAdoo are expected to draw the most attention.

***ESPN.com's Adam Schefter is reporting that the Raiders owned the 18th pick of the draft.
Posted on: August 22, 2011 9:42 am
 

What to expect in today's supplemental draft

Pushed back over a month from its regularly scheduled date due to the lockout and a bizarre controversy over player eligibility (Terrelle Pryor), the NFL's supplemental draft will begin today at 1 pm Eastern.

This draft, unlike the one in April, will be carried out via email. Teams won't even known the order until approximately 30 minutes prior to the draft. There will be no television cameras in the war rooms. The event won't spark much more than passing interest from your local sports media outlets -- unless, of course, your team elects to draft one of the six players deemed eligible. Alphabetically, they are: Western Carolina cornerback Torez Jones, Georgia running back Caleb King, Lindenwood University/Allen Wranglers (IFL) defensive end Keenan Mace, North Carolina defensive end Michael McAdoo, Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor and Northern Illinois safety Tracy Wilson.

The vast majority of the focus on these six players has been on Terrelle Pryor -- and for good reason. At this point, he is the only player seemingly assured of being selected. Though his workout was not nearly as impressive in its totality as his 4.38-4.41 second 40-yard dash was to begin the Pro Day, the speed shown by the 6043 (six foot, four and 3/8"), 232 pound has definitely created a buzz. I have consistently heard the Steelers, Raiders and Bengals are the three teams most interested in adding Pryor. There has been a lot of talk of a third round pick. The fact that Pryor is suspended for nearly a third of the regular season might push him down a round or two.

King has also generated a great deal of interest. There were at least seven teams at his Pro Day workout last week, including Washington, Kansas City, Tampa Bay and Buffalo. Media reports following the workout had King (listed at 5-11, 225) as having run in the 4.4s. According to one high level league source, however, King's "officially" was measured at 5106 (five foot, ten and 3/4") and 211 pounds. He was timed at 4.71 seconds in the 40-yard dash on an ideal outdoor field turf surface. King has some power as an interior runner, flashes an impressive spin move and shows some lateral agility to avoid defenders. As his slow time suggests, however, he does not have the speed to gain yardage in big chunks against NFL competition. One element of his game that will help his cause is that King is a physical and responsible pass blocker. Still, measuring in slower and lighter than expected, King is looking at a late round (6th-7th) selection, at best. He will almost surely be signed as a free agent if not drafted.

McAdoo is thought by some to be the most intriguing of the remaining prospects. Listed at 6-7, 245 pounds, however, scouts were surprised when he instead showed up to some private workouts in the 230s. McAdoo's length and surprising strength still make him quite a developmental prospect as a pass rusher. He flashed throughout his career and appeared poised to enjoy a real breakout season as Robert Quinn's primary backup for UNC. McAdoo could get a late round sniff, but the feeling among most teams is that he'll slip to free agency.

Mace was signed by the Dallas Cowboys out of the IFL following a collegiate career at Lindenwood University. After a few days practicing with the Cowboys, however, Mace was informed that because he signed with Dallas having not used up all of collegiate eligibility (and not petitioning the NFL for early entry), he was not allowed to be on an NFL roster yet until having gone through the supplemental draft. At roughly 6-4, 313 pounds, Mace played defensive tackle at Lindenwood before switching to defensive end for the Allen Wranglers. He is at his best inside, showing a quick burst off the snap and good strength. He does not possess the lateral agility and closing speed to make many stops outside of the tackle box, but plays with effort and has an intriguing big body capable of contributing to a team using either front. Most teams view his best position as a three-technique defensive tackle for the 4-3. Opinions vary signficantly with Mace. Many clubs view him as a free agent, though there have been some rumblings that he could sneak ahead of King and McAdoo and be a 6th or 7th round pick.

Unfortunately for Jones and Wilson, there does not seem to be a great deal of interest from NFL clubs. Wilson's Pro Day workout was taken in by a few teams, though the NIU safety was unable to demonstrate the caliber of athleticism scouts were looking for.

 
Posted on: August 20, 2011 6:07 pm
 

Fast 40, but workout #s otherwise not impressive

I'm not sure what went faster today -- the 6-4 (3/8), 232 pound Terrelle Pryor in the forty yard dash or, the buzz around him in the seconds afterward, as scouts registered that sizzling time in their heads and word spread throughout the internet and texting community.

4.38-4.41 seconds is an accurate time for both.

However, as impressive as Pryor was in the straight-line speed portion of the workout, he was stunningly average in several other athletic portions of the event.

According to a league source, Pryor was timed at 4.3 seconds in the short-shuttle and 7.2 seconds in the three-cone drill

He also had a 31" vertical jump and a 10'4" broad jump.

The source characterized the results as "not that great of workout numbers for a supposedly great athlete."

No kidding. 

While Pryor's broad jump would have ranked among the better results among quarterbacks tested at the 2010 Combine, his vertical and short shuttle results were very average in comparison to other quarterbacks tested there.

His three cone time would have rated second to last among all of the quarterbacks tested. The only quarterback slower in this drill was Texas A&M's Jerrod Johnson, who timed at 7.28/7.31 in the event. Former Fresno State quarterback Ryan Colburn, as a comparison, was one of the slower quarterbacks in the 40-yard dash, timing as poorly as 5.23 seconds in the event last February, but this relatively slow-footed quarterback was timed alarmingly faster in the three-cone drill (6.84 seconds) than Pryor.

Pryor would have been the slowest of the receivers tested in this event. He also would have been slower than virtually all of the tight ends.

The three-cone drill is designed to test a player's balance, ability to change directions and burst.

We all know Pryor is a phenomenal athlete. His ability to shake defenders and surprise them with his acceleration are among his most impressive traits. The fact that Pryor tested so poorly in this drill leads me to wonder if he tired early or perhaps didn't take this particular part of the workout as seriously as others. Or, perhaps he simply isn't as quick for the watch as he appears to be on tape.

Regardless, it doesn't bode well for his chances at successfully converting to receiver or tight end.

Posted on: August 20, 2011 3:01 pm
 

Pryor dazzles 17 teams w/speed. Less so w/ arm?

Former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor proved both dazzling and perhaps a bit disappointing Saturday in hastily organized "Pro Day" workout at a Hempfield (Pa) high school in front of a collection of scouts, front office executives, Pittsburgh head coach Mike Tomlin and even Indianapolis Colts' owner Jim Irsay.

Former Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel was also on hand for the workout, showing his support for the player some blame for the program's recent troubles.

Measuring in at 6-5, 232 pounds Pryor wowed onlookers with his straight-line speed early in the workout, posting times between 4.38-4.41 seconds on a soft FieldTurf surface, according to Zac Jackson's Twitter feed. The soft turf generally slows a player down, at least in comparison to a hard turf or track surface. Therefore, these are lightning fast times for Pryor; ones certain to boost the intrigue of teams considering the playmaker.

As impressive as Pryor was running for the stopwatch, he did not run routes or catch passes as a receiver and was apparently less impressive when throwing the ball. While he threw a tight spiral on many of his throws, he also threw a "duck" after instructing one of his four receivers on hand which route to run and there were several incompletions, according to Jackson.

According to The NFL Network's Albert Breer, Pryor completed 27 of 39 passes. Of the 12 incompletions, Breer counted four drops.

Having not been at Pryor's workout, myself, I can't fairly grade his performance during the throwing session. I have been to multiple Pro Day workouts from quarterbacks, most notably Sam Bradford's, Mark Sanchez's and Jake Locker's. Passes rarely hit the ground during these orchestrated workouts with no defenders.

There were 17 teams present at the workout: Buffalo, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Miami, New England, New Orleans, Oakland, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, San Diego, San Francisco, Tampa Bay and Washington.

While the fact that more than half of the league's teams were represented at the Pro Day shows that there is a great deal of interest in the former Buckeye, it also should be noted that there were only a few decision-makers on hand. Most of the scouts in attendance were lower-level area scouts, likely close by due to their normal scouting responsibilities at local colleges during the late summer months. The Steelers, not surprisingly given their close proximity, were well represented. Besides Tomlin, Director of Football Operations Kevin Colbert was also reportedly at the workout. Irsay tweeted that his Colts are "not taking Pryor" though he also mentioned that his team is "evaluating the QB [situation]."

The workout, while exciting, isn't likely to change the opinions of teams heading towards Monday's supplemental draft. I've argued for a long time that Pryor is quite an intriguing prospect at wide receiver. He, however, has indicated a strong preference for remaining at quarterback, though he did tell teams and the assembled media at the workout today that he'd play any position asked.

As a quarterback, Pryor's average accuracy and decision-making means that he's at minimum a two-year project for playing the traditional quarterback role. He could, however, make a significant and exciting contribution early in his career as a glorified Wildcat option for a club.

His athleticism and size are such a unique combination that Pryor most likely will earn a middle to late round pick. Most expect that it will come in the 4th to 5th round.
Posted on: August 16, 2011 8:24 pm
 

NFL's Supplemental Draft postponed indefinitely

The NFL informed its 32 teams in an email this evening that the supplemental draft has been postponed, according to a source within the league.

The draft, which had been set to take place Wednesday, has not yet been been rescheduled. The email circulated simply didn't provide a date, according to the source.

The postponement was presumably made to give the league more time to determine whether or not Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor should be found eligible and to allow he and other players time to conduct a Pro Day workout of sorts for scouts. 

Some players have already held workouts, including Georgia running back Caleb King. King worked out Monday in front of representatives from seven teams, including scouts from the Washington Redskins, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Kansas City Chiefs and Buffalo Bills, according to a story today from Roger Clarkson of OnlineAthens.com.

At this point there are five players confirmed as eligible: Western Carolina cornerback Torez Jones, King, Lindenwood University/Allen Wranglers (IFL) defensive end Keenan Mace, North Carolina defensive end Michael McAdoo and Northern Illinois safety Tracy Wilson. Pryor may be added to the list. Should he be, he'll almost certainly be the first of the prospects selected. Sources throughout the league have placed the over/under on where he'd be drafted (if allowed in) at anywhere between the 3rd and 5th round. King and McAdoo are also receiving draftable grades from some clubs.

While no new date has yet been made for the supplemental draft, the NFL isn't likely to wait long. Teams are busy evaluating the players already on their roster and won't be thrilled to have to wait even longer to determine if they'll add any one else via this special-case draft.
Posted on: August 8, 2011 5:18 pm
 

Supplemental Draft to be held August 17

The NFL has informed its 32 teams that this summer's supplemental draft will be held August 17, according to a source within the league.  

No names of eligible players were included as part of the notice. Furthermore, teams were not notified as to when the draft order will be determined. The only information sent at this time, according to the source, was the date of the draft. 

The supplemental draft typically occurs on or around July 15, approximately 10 days prior to the start of training camps. This year, however, the date was pushed back due to the lockout.

Former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor and Georgia running back Caleb King are thought likely to be among those included. North Carolina defensive end Michael McAdoo, who was suspended for the 2011 season due to academics, is also thought to be considering a request to be included in the draft.

The supplemental draft was originally created for players who had lost their eligibility to play collegiate football between the regular April draft and the beginning of the next season. Many "special case" players had lost their eligibility due to academics or legal troubles.

Unlike the televised April draft, the supplemental is carried out via e-mail among teams. The teams, slotted into three groups based on their won/loss percentage the year previous, contact the league with a list of the players they'd draft and the round in which they'd take them. As such, while the Carolina Panthers owned the first pick of the 2011 draft, they are not guaranteed to have the first pick in this draft.

For more information as it happens, keep your browser locked in at NFLDraftScout.com.


Posted on: August 5, 2011 9:46 am
Edited on: August 5, 2011 9:48 am
 

Source: Expect announcement on supplemental soon

According to a league source, the NFL is likely to make a decision about this summer's supplemental draft in the next 24-36 hours.

The supplemental draft became a "back burner issue" for much of the summer as the NFL and the NFLPA worked out their differences. Now that the CBA has been agreed to and officially ratified, however, the special eligibility draft is likely to become much more of an area of focus.

Despite what others have theorized, the supplemental draft does not appear to be (and perhaps never was) in danger of being cancelled. The only time the supplemental draft has been cancelled in the past has been when there have been no players to be eligible. This last occurred in 2008. Former Ohio State Buckeye quarterback Terrelle Pryor had his eligibility scrutinized when it appeared that he left school with the hopes of entering the draft on his own. As NFL spokesperson Greg Aiello told Alex Marvez of FoxSports.com, the supplemental draft "is for players whose circumstances have changed in an unforeseen way after the regular (college) draft. It is not a mechanism for simply bypassing the regular (draft).”

However, Ohio State notified Pryor on July 26 that he would have been suspended for the entire 2011 season. That announcement was met with little media attention, but it certainly caught the notice of the NFL. Pryor's eligibility now indeed had been changed in an unforeseen way, essentially securing him a spot whenever the league was able to organize a supplemental draft.

Regardless of Pryor's eligibility, however, the NFL had known for weeks that former Georgia running back Caleb King would qualify for eligibility. Expected to take over the starting spot in 2011, King was instead found to be academically ineligible.  Sources close to him had already made his plans to petition the league for eligibility in the supplemental draft public.

A third candidate for the supplemental draft is former North Carolina defensive end Michael McAdoo, who is continuing a legal battle with his former team and the NCAA to return to the Tar Heels. McAdoo has not yet made an official announcement about his intentions, but there are rumblings throughout the league that the 6-6, 248 pound pass rusher is weighing his options.

With free agency, the signing of draft choices and the opening of training camp being compressed into just a few days, the NFL, frankly, hasn't had the time to worry about the supplemental draft. They don't really have the time now, either. However, with at least two players almost surely to be found eligible for the draft, it will happen. Teams are going to need time to attend workouts for each player prior to any draft. A reasonable expectation, according to the source, would be that the league notified teams soon of a date for the draft to be held -- even if the draft won't occur for another few weeks.

Typically the supplemental takes place on or around July 15 - approximately 10 days before the start of most training camps in a normal year.

Posted on: July 24, 2011 7:26 pm
Edited on: July 25, 2011 12:48 pm
 

Pryor not eligible for supplemental draft?

Terrelle Pryor might not be eligible for the NFL's supplemental draft - if there even is one this year. The league has yet to schedule the event, and Pryor doesn't meet the criteria of "unforeseen" changes for a player's petition for the draft to normally be granted.

 

"If there are no players eligible for a supplemental draft, there is no supplemental draft," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello wrote in an email to  FOXSports.com on Sunday. "It is for players whose circumstances have changed in an unforeseen way after the regular (college) draft. It is not a mechanism for simply bypassing the regular (draft)."

 

An "unforeseen way" typically includes someone who was kicked off their college team, deemed ineligible, graduated and opted to leave school, etc.
However, Pryor left Ohio State voluntarily after the NFL's April draft, and the league might not want to set the precedent of players finding a loophole to skip the annual draft and then apply for the supplemental draft.

 

Pryor was facing a five-game suspension to start the 2011, but decided to leave the program after coach Jim Tressel resigned due to a scandal that started with Pryor and several teammates selling jerseys and other memorabilia.

 

Eligibility for the supplemental draft is decided on a case-by-case basis. Former Georgia running back Caleb King, who was ruled academically ineligible, has also stated his intention to petition for the supplemental draft.

--Derek Harper, NFLDraftScout.com Executive Editor 


 
 
 
 
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