Tag:CC Sabathia
Posted on: November 18, 2010 1:34 pm
Edited on: November 18, 2010 1:36 pm
 

AL Cy Young sure to stir debate


Well, we're about half an hour from breaking the internet, as the announcement of the American League Cy Young will send everyone scurrying to their keyboards. There are two likely outcomes:

* Felix Hernandez wins, leading stat guys to declare that a new day has dawned in baseball, and Yankee fans to decry CC Sabathia getting ripped off because after all, he had 21 wins.

* Sabathia wins, leading stat guys to melt down and spend the rest of the day calling BBWAA members dinosaurs.

I'd call myself a sabermetric moderate. I think many advanced statistics are useful, some are not, and the discounting of the human element is ignorant.

Unfortunately, one of the country's more accomplished baseball writers poured a bunch of fuel on the stat guys' fire with an incredibly nonsensical blog entry today. Murray Chass, retired longtime baseball writer for the New York Times , rages against the idea that a guy with 13 wins could get the Cy Young because "good pitchers find a way to win." Read it if you could use some eye-rolling exercise.

The Yankees’ CC Sabathia won 21 games; no pitcher won 20 last year. Sabathia’s feat should count for something, but in the new age, the standard that stood for excellence for more than 100 years means nothing. It is ignored. It is not a factor. The stats capellers know better and have better standards.

Well, yeah, there are better standards than wins. You don't have to be a member of SABR to understand that. You just need an open mind.

-- David Andriesen

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Posted on: November 18, 2010 9:42 am
Edited on: November 18, 2010 10:03 am
 

Thursday morning rumor roundup


The owners meetings and GM meetings overlap today in Orlando, so we might see some deals happen. Here's a sampling of the chatter as the day gets under way:

* Carl Crawford would be the Yankees' Plan B if they don't sign Cliff Lee, and CC Sabathia would again be their recruiter. (Newsday)

* The Rockies want a versatile right-handed bat, with Ty Wigginton and Jorge Cantu possibilities. (SI.com)

* Joel Sherman of the New York Post offers an endorsement, albeit tepid, for Bob Melvin as Mets manager. (New York Post)

* The Red Sox are making a push for Justin Upton, with the Diamondbacks likely to request Jacoby Ellsbury and Daniel Bard as the heart of the return package. (SI.com)

* AL Rookie of the Year Neftali Feliz has heard the rumors about being moved to the rotation if the Rangers lose Lee, but hasn't been told anything by the team. (Hoy -- link in Spanish)

* The Yankees want Derek Jeter to sign for three years at $63 million, but Jeter is looking for as many as five or six years. (ESPNNewYork.com)

* The Marlins have been busy, but they're not done, with Larry Beinfest saying he'd like to add a starting pitcher. (Palm Beach Post)

-- David Andriesen

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Posted on: November 10, 2010 12:02 pm
Edited on: November 15, 2010 9:46 am
 

MLB Facts & Rumors Cy Young Awards

The major baseball awards will be announced next week, and the staff at MLB Facts and Rumors is making our choices this week. Today, David, Evan and Trent name their Manager of the Year selections. As with the BBWAA awards, a first-place vote is worth seven points, second place four, third place three, fourth place two and fifth place one.

While the National League award is for the best pitcher in the league, the American League vote seems to be a referendum on the BBWAA and its acceptance of newer statistics and abandoning the win as its basis for measuring a pitcher's success.

AMERICAN LEAGUE CY YOUNG AWARD

Felix Hernandez David Andriesen
1. Felix Hernandez, SEA
2. David Price, TB
3. CC Sabathia, NYY
4. Jon Lester, BOS
5. Jered Weaver, LAA

Some people will knock Hernandez for his team’s offensive futility, but I won’t. And if you take wins out of the discussion, he wins easily. Price edges Sabathia with an ERA nearly half a point better. If it seems strange Cliff Lee isn’t in this discussion, keep in mind he missed the first month of the season.

Evan Brunell
1. SP Felix Hernandez, SEA
2. SP CC Sabathia, NYY
3. SP Francisco Liriano, MIN
4. SP Jon Lester, BOS
5. SP David Price, TB

Lee stays off this ballot because in his time in Texas, he wasn't quite Cy Young-worthy as compared to full seasons of the above. Hernandez was otherworldly, but let down by one of baseball's worst offenses in history. With the run support of the Yankees, Hernandez very well could have reached 25 wins.

C. Trent Rosecrans
1. Felix Hernandez, SEA
2. David Price, TB
3. Francisco Liriano, MIN
4. CC Sabathia, NY
5. Cliff Lee, SEA/TEX

I think enough has been said about the Hernandez vs. the world, but I'm not sure Price or Liriano have quite gotten the credit they deserve. So many people have set it up as Hernandez vs. Sabathia, and I'm not so sure that's the right question.

NATIONAL LEAGUE CY YOUNG AWARD

Roy Halladay David Andriesen
1. Roy Halladay, PHI
2. Adam Wainwright, STL
3. Josh Johnson, FLA
4. Ubaldo Jimenez, COL
5. Tim Hudson, ATL

This one is really close, but I’m letting Halladay’s perfect game and NL lead in innings pitched put him ahead of Wainwright, who was second in the NL in wins and ERA. Jimenez came back to earth after his ridiculous first half, as did Johnson, who missed the last month but still finished with the ERA title.

Evan Brunell
1. SP Roy Halladay, PHI
2. SP Adam Wainwright, STL
3. SP Josh Johnson, FLA
4. SP Ubaldo Jimenez, COL
5. SP Tim Hudson, ATL

Halladay got more than he bargained for with Adam Wainwright neck-and-neck for the Cy race, but Halladay gets the nod due to innings pitched and xFIP, which clearly shows that Halladay was the better pitcher. His domination is evident to all.

C. Trent Rosecrans
1. Roy Halladay, PHI
2. Adam Wainwright, STL
3. Josh Johnson, FLA
4. Ubaldo Jimenez, COL
5. Tim Lincecum, SF

It seems to be hard to believe that Halladay didn't live up to expectations -- and considering some expected him to win 30 games, he didn't live up to the highest of expectation. But he still had an amazing season and should win this one going away against some pretty good competition. Still, the fact that Halladay did what he was able to do in a bandbox of a ballpark, it's quite impressive. Kind of like the Rookie of the Year, give me any of these guys in a Game 1 and I feel pretty good.

MLB Facts and Rumors AL Cy Young Award
It's at least a runaway here, as Felix Hernandez gets the nod, making stat-heads happy everywhere. CC Sabathia and David Price tie for what Ricky Bobby would call "first loser." I still have enough faith in the BBWAA that it'll get this one right, despite so many doubters.

MLB Facts and Rumors NL Cy Young Award
The voting isn't as close as the race, but Roy Halladay is the unanimous winner. Expect the real vote to be similar.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Posted on: October 29, 2010 3:50 pm
Edited on: October 29, 2010 4:24 pm
 

Sabathia, Polanco have surgery

Two participants on the losing end of the championship series underwent the knife Friday.

CC Sabathia had arthroscopic surgery on his right knee, fixing a small meniscus tear. While Sabathia said that the surgery will have no effect on his offseason schedule, one will have to wait and see how his right knee handles the stress of repeated landings of a man weighing over 300 pounds.

Sabathia said the injury, which affected him during the season, only bothered him in the days after the start, never while starting. Manager Joe Girardi, however, wouldn't rule out that it affected his mechanics as he tells Anthony McCarron .

Meanwhile, Phillies third baseman Placido Polanco had left elbow surgery that will sideline him for several weeks.

"It went very well and we are fully expecting Placido to be 100% by spring training," GM Ruben Amaro said in a team statement.  "Dr. Ciccotti removed spurs from his left elbow and did a debridement and repair of the lateral extensor tendon.  Placido will have follow-up appointments with the doctor over the next several weeks and we hope to have him swinging the bat again within 10 weeks, around early January."

Polanco played through the injury despite being hobbled at the end of the season in his first season both back in Philadelphia and at third base.

-- Evan Brunell

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Posted on: October 29, 2010 1:23 am
Edited on: October 29, 2010 3:34 am
 

Price is the players' choice

David Price
The most debated postseason award this year is the American League Cy Young. CC Sabathia or Felix Hernandez? Hernandez or Sabathia?

Their peers have spoken, and their answer is: neither.

It was announced Thursday that Tampa Bay's David Price was named the AL's outstanding pitcher in the Players Choice Awards. Price was 19-6 with a 2.72 ERA this season, his first full season in the majors.

Price didn't lead the league in anything -- he was third in ERA (Hernandez was tops at 2.27) and second in wins (Sabathia had 21). But the Rays were 23-8 when Price started, and he was 4-0 with a 1.67 ERA in September as the Rays held off the Yankees and won the AL East.

Obviously the other players in the league were impressed with Price, and he probably benefited from a split of votes between Sabathia and Hernandez. Could this portend a surprise in the Cy Young results, which will be announced November 18?

"I would definitely like to have that one, but this is pretty close," he told the Tampa Tribune. "I feel this is just an equivalent, if not as much gratification."

-- David Andriesen

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Posted on: October 27, 2010 1:56 am
 

Sabathia to have knee surgery

Yankees ace CC Sabathia has a minor meniscus tear in his right knee and will require surgery, the New York Post reports .

Sabathia was diagnosed with the tear on Tuesday and will undergo surgery shortly. He is expected to recover within three weeks and it will have no impact on his status for spring training.

Sabathia went 21-7 with a 3.18 ERA this season, but wasn't as dominating in the postseason, when he was 2-0 with a 5.63 ERA in three starts. He gave up 22 hits and walked seven with 15 strikeouts in 16 innings.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Category: MLB
Posted on: October 22, 2010 6:50 pm
 

Players choice finalists announced

Carlos Gonzalez In September, major-league players voted for the Players Choice Awards, coordinated by the union. Friday, the MLBPA released the three finalists for each of the awards, which will be announced over the course of next week.

Player of the year (both leagues): Carlos Gonzalez (Rockies, pictured), Josh Hamilton (Rangers), Joey Votto (Reds).

Man of the year (for off-field efforts): Torii Hunter (Angels), Brandon Inge (Tigers), Troy Tulowitzki (Rockies).

NL outstanding player: Gonzalez, Albert Pujols (Cardinals), Votto.

NL outstanding pitcher: Roy Halladay (Phillies), Ubaldo Jimenez (Rockies), Adam Wainwright (Cardinals).

NL outstanding rookie: Jaime Garcia (Cardinals), Jason Heyward (Braves), Buster Posey (Giants).

NL comeback player: R.A. Dickey (Mets), Tim Hudson (Braves), Aubrey Huff (Giants).

AL outstanding player: Jose Bautista (Blue Jays), Miguel Cabrera (Tigers), Hamilton.

AL outstanding pitcher: Felix Hernandez (Mariners), David Price (Rays), CC Sabathia (Yankees).

AL outstanding rookie: Wade Davis (Rays), Neftali Feliz (Rangers), Austin Jackson (Tigers).

AL comeback player: Freddy Garcia (White Sox), Vladimir Guerrero (Rangers), Francisco Liriano (Twins).

-- David Andriesen

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