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Posted on: August 24, 2011 4:06 pm
Edited on: August 24, 2011 4:15 pm
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Casserly: OAK draft strategy for Pryor was sound



Posted by Ryan Wilson

It's easy to make fun of the Raiders. Since losing to the Buccaneers in the Super Bowl following the 2002 season, Oakland has averaged 4.6 wins a year, and it's only that high because they went 8-8 in 2010. (Between '02 and '10, the Raiders hadn't won more than five games in a season.)

Then there's the suspect draft strategy (2007 first-overall pick JaMarcus Russell is the lowlight), and the organization's fascination with speed. Since 2005, the team has taken Stanford Routt, Fabian Washington, Michael Huff, Darren McFadden and Darrius Heyward-Bey in either the first or second round, and they can all fly.

So it wasn't much of a shock when the Raiders landed Terrelle Pryor in Monday's NFL Supplemental Draft. Pryor ran a 4.36 40 at his pro day and blew onlookers away with his freakish athleticism.

What was surprising, however, was that Oakland gave up a third-round pick for Pryor. Between the time Pryor left school in June and Monday's draft, most draft experts and personnel types considered him worth no more than a fourth-rounder. But Charley Casserly, a former NFL General Manager now working for CBS Sports, says the Raiders did the right thing.

"When you're drafting, and especially in the supplemental draft, you're trying to figure out where guys are going to go and what round to pick them in," Casserly told CBSSports.com on Tuesday. "But with so few players in the supplemental draft, this is a guessing game. You can put a value on a player … but there's a little bit an element of guessing. The consensus that I was getting is that most people thought this [Pryor] was a fourth-round pick. Well, when you do that, you pick a round ahead."

Unlike the regular draft held in April, the supplemental draft is an auction. Teams submit bids. Should multiple bids come in, they're ranked by round and then by record. The team with the worst record and highest-round bid lands the player.

"That's how you strategize in the supplemental draft," Casserly said.

So the price of doing business in the supplemental draft is a one-round mark-up. A player worth a fourth-rounder in April will cost you a third-rounder in August (note: the supplemental draft is usually in July; because of the lockout it was pushed back a month).

Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Pryor for the first five games of the season, which means he's basically redshirting his rookie NFL season. Casserly seemed unconcerned.

"Pryor's going into a good situation where he's not going to have to play right away," he said. "The Raiders are always committed to long-term development of players … and that's what he needs because this year is going to be a total wash for him. Without OTAs and training camp, where's he going to learn to play quarterback?"

The Raiders have every intention of letting Pryor play quarterback until he proves otherwise. We asked Casserly if Pryor would be okay with a position change.

"I think [the Raiders] will have a way of making it okay," he said, adding: "You know, they're paying him. But they're going to look at him at quarterback. … He's a project -- a big project -- and next year's almost going to be a quasi-rookie year for him in training camp. … Al Davis has done a great job of taking athletes and finding places for him to play. So you can bet they'll look at him at other positions in the next 12 months."

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Posted on: August 23, 2011 12:52 pm
Edited on: August 24, 2011 11:51 am
 

Pryor thought he was going to Miami or Washington

Posted by Will Brinson

Terrelle Pryor is the newest member of the Raiders, costing Al Davis team a third-rounder in 2012 thanks to their decision to reach for draft him in the third round of this season's supplemental draft.

But Pryor apparently didn't think he was headed to Oakland, and believed that Dolphins and Redskins had the most interest in him.

"I thought Miami or maybe the Redskins," Pryor says in an interview with Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk that will air Tuesday.  "I talked to Miami a bunch of times.  That's where I thought I was gonna end up going, but I’m happy where I'm at right now.  I couldn't be happier, and I definitely appreciate the opportunity to play for the Oakland Raiders."

Pryor adds that he heard nothing from the Raiders leading up to the supplemental draft. That's amusing considering that the Raiders must have thought they were being really sneaky with their interest in Pryor, but that was pointless since everyone knew they were interested the moment Pryor ran a 4.36 in the 40 at his pro day.

Pryor's Journey to Oakland

Meanwhile, in other Pryor news, Jim Tressel, speaking from Colts training camp, told Albert Breer of the NFL Network that he believes Pryor's going to have a lot of success at the NFL level.

"He's the biggest perfectionist I've ever been around," Tressel told Breer from Colts camp. "Football means a great deal to him, his teammates mean a great deal to him, he wants to help a franchise win, and he has one of the biggest hearts of any kid I've been around. There was a lot of pressure on him at Ohio State. We didn't expect him to start as a freshman at Ohio State, but he we needed him and he delivered. He's carried a lot of pressure. He's just a special kid."

Tressel also said "it'll be scary" to see what Pryor can do on the NFL level now that he's not dealing with "going to class, doing schoolwork, and the social aspects of being that age." (Must. Not. Make. Jokes ...)

If -- and it's a reasonably big if -- Pryor can be successful as an NFL quarterback, the Raiders will have found themselves a rare steal. If he ends up being a marginally successful wide receiver, they blatantly overpaid for him.

And if he's a really fast athlete who doesn't really produce at an NFL level, none of those traits that Tressel praises will matter. But all of that -- plus the fact that Pryor's the first-ever athlete to be suspended by the NFL for something he did in college -- are what make him such an enigma.

Which is why we'll be talking about him all season, even if he spends 2011 either suspended or being a rich man's Armanti Edwards.

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Posted on: August 23, 2011 10:53 am
 

Podcast: Favre to Colts, Fitz' contract, T-Pryor

Posted by Will Brinson & Ryan Wilson

You'll never believe this, but there are rumors about Brett Favre going to the Colts because Peyton Manning is hurt. In Monday's podcast (yes, we're running behind), we take a look at that silliness, discuss Jim Irsay's love of Steely Dan and debate when Peyton Manning will actually return to action.

We also discuss the new contract for Larry Fitzgerald, whether it was a good deal or not, if the Cardinals were wise to spend that much on a wide receiver and how it affects Chris Johnson's would-be deal with the Titans, talk about Terrelle Pryor's status (we actually recorded before the supplemental draft but knew he was going to the Raiders anyway) and much, much more.

Yapping starts … now (and while we have you, remember to subscribe to the podcast via iTunes). If you can't listen to the podcast below, download it here. And if you'd like to keep working while listening in your browser, pop that puppy out in a new tab here.




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Posted on: August 22, 2011 5:46 pm
Edited on: August 22, 2011 7:29 pm
 

The NFL Supplemental Draft: A brief history



Posted by Ryan Wilson

The Oakland Raiders are who we thought they were: a team madly in love with size and speed. They reaffirmed that love again Monday when they used a third-round pick in the NFL Supplemental Draft to take former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor, a prospect most draft analysts and personnel types had pegged as a late-round selection.

Pre-draft analysis matters little now; the Raiders are neither conventional nor particularly interested in what the rest of the football world thinks. Owner Al Davis wants guys who can run faster, throw farther and hit harder than than everybody else. But we already knew that because that's always been the case. Now the question is if Pryor can harness that raw athleticism into something that will make him more than a supplemental draft footnote.

Which brings us to this: Who are some of the best NFL players to come out of the supplemental draft?

Glad you asked -- let's get to this…

Bernie Kosar, QB, University of Miami, 1st round, 1985. According to NFL.com's Elliot Harrison, Kosar finagled his way into the supplemental draft -- and deftly avoided the regular draft -- when his agent failed to file the paperwork by the deadline, and it left Kosar available for the supplemental process later that summer. "Controversy erupted, as Minnesota desperately wanted to draft Kosar, but ultimately Commissioner Pete Rozelle left the decision up to the kid. The rest is history. Kosar led Cleveland to the playoffs five straight seasons from 1985 to 1989, including three AFC Championship Game appearances."

Brian Bosworth, LB, Oklahoma, 1st round, 1987. Bosworth was brash but he was also one of the best linebackers in college history. He opted for the supplemental draft to avoid landing with the Bills or Colts, and ultimately ended up with the Seahawks. Other than a brief acting career that made for unintentionally hilarious moments, Boz is probably best remembered for getting trucked by Bo Jackson.


Cris Carter, WR, Ohio State, 4th round, 1987. Carter played 16 NFL seasons with the Eagles, Vikings and Dolphins, and finished his career with 1,101 catches, 13,899 yards receiving and 130 touchdowns. He was part of the 1998 Vikings team that went 15-1 under head coach Dennis Green (and offensive coordinator Brian Billick), and featured Randall Cunningham at quarterback. Some guy named Randy Moss was a rookie for Minnesota that year, too.

Pryor's Journey to Oakland

Steve Walsh, QB, University of Miami, 1st round, 1989. The Cowboys used a first-round pick on Walsh months after they had taken Troy Aikman in the first round of the regular draft. Then-head coach Jimmy Johnson had coached Walsh at the University of Miami, and presumably he thought Walsh gave the Cowboys the best chance to win. Instead, he started just five games during that first season and never was able to unseat Aikman. The rest (in Dallas, anyway) was history. Walsh had an 11-year NFL career, playing for six NFL teams, even making several playoff appearances.

Bobby Humphrey, RB, Alabama, 1st round, 1989. As a rookie with the Broncos, he rushed for 1,151 yards and seven touchdowns, and played in Super Bowl XXIV, a 55-10 drubbing at the hands of the 49ers. Two years later, Humphrey held out in the hopes of a new contract, the team stood firm, and he finally returned to the field in Week 14. By then, Gaston Green was the Broncos' new back, proving yet again that running backs are fungible.

Rob Moore, WR, Syracuse, 1st round, 1990. He played for 10 NFL seasons with the Jets and Cardinals, his best effort coming in 1997 when he hauled in 97 passes for 1,584 yards, and eight touchdowns. He averaged 99 yards receiving per game that season.

Jamal Williams, DT, Oklahoma State, 2nd round, 1998. It wasn't long ago that Williams was considered one of the most dominating nose tackles in football. Now 35, his game isn't where it once was, but he's still formidable enough to regularly require double-teams. Williams opted for the supplemental draft after he was declared academically ineligible at Oklahoma State.

Ahmad Brooks, LB, Virginia, 3rd round, 2006. Brooks was occasionally described as "the next Ray Lewis" while at UVA, but he was dismissed from the team which explains how he ended up in the supplemental draft. It's hardly surprising that the Bengals took a flier on a player with off-field concerns and amazing physical skills. Also not surprising: a player drafted by the Bengals has yet to live up to expectations. Cincinnati cut Brooks before the 2008 season, and he has spent the last three years with the 49ers, where he has started just once in that time.

Jared Gaither, OT, Maryland, 5th round, 2007. Gaither is another high-upside guy who the Ravens never could properly motivate. He played well enough to earn the starting left tackle job, even after the team drafted Michael Oher. But injuries and a questionable work ethic was enough for Baltimore to let him walk in free agency this summer. Gaither's now with the Chiefs.

Terrelle Pryor, QB, Ohio State, 3rd round, 2011. To be continued…

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Posted on: August 20, 2011 6:36 pm
 

NFL will hold supplemental draft lottery Sunday

Posted by Josh Katzowitz

A day after Terrelle Pryor showed off for more than half the NFL teams during his Pro Day, the NFL will decide the order for which those squads will bid for his services.

As CBSSports.com’s Rob Rang explains, the NFL will hold a weighted lottery Sunday to determine the order for Monday’s supplemental draft.

Rang writes that unlike April’s draft, which is based solely on win-loss percentage, the supplemental draft places teams into three different categories. Writes Rang: “These groups are determined by the same won/loss percentage, but are thought to take into account the annual fluctuation of talent for clubs that occurs through the draft and free agency each off-season. Therefore, while the Carolina Panthers owned the first pick last year, Ron Rivera's club will be competing with roughly a third of the league for the first pick of each round of the supplemental draft.”

And unlike the April draft where the teams make their selections based on what picks are still left on the board, teams turn in a list in which they inform the league which players they’d pick and which round they’d select him. If a team has the high bid on a player and ultimately drafts him, it will lose the corresponding pick in the April 2012 draft.

There are seven players who are eligible to be selected: Pryor, Western Carolina CB Torez Jones, Georgia RB Caleb King, Lindenwood University/Allen Wranglers (IFL) DE Keenan Mace, North Carolina DE Michael McAdoo and Northern Illinois S Tracy Wilson.


Terrelle Pryor is eligible for the upcoming NFL Supplemental Draft, but is suspended for the first five games of the season. Pete Prisco joins Lauren Shehadi to discuss the latest.

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