Tag:Kerry Collins
Posted on: September 11, 2011 12:51 pm
Edited on: September 11, 2011 2:26 pm

Report: Manning undergoes painful surgery

ManningPosted by Josh Katzowitz

While we all still try to figure out how long Peyton Manning will be out after his second neck surgery (and how screwed the Colts really are as they try not to miss the playoffs for the first time in a decade), it sounds like Manning is willing to sacrifice his long-term health to get back on the field faster.

That’s the report made by Fox Sports’ Jay Glazer (via PFT) today. Glazer says Manning opted for a more painful procedure in which a portion of his hip was removed so it could then be fused together with the bones in his spine.

This is not usually the prescribed method of surgery, but for Manning, it could lead him back to the field quicker (it also might give him chronic hip pain*).

*I’m all for being a team player, but Manning is really ready to make himself suffer potentially every day for the rest of his life so he can play a little bit quicker? That, to me, is crazy.

Glazer also said the medical people to whom he spoke said Manning wouldn’t have the ability to take a hit for four months.

Which leads us back to what Patriots quarterback Tom Brady said about Manning when asked about Manning’s injury.

"He’s such a tough guy. It sucks not seeing him out there," Brady said.

The Colts, possibly with the exception of Kerry Collins, think so too.

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Posted on: September 9, 2011 2:53 pm

Colts can get out of Manning deal after one year?

Posted by Will Brinson

Peyton Manning is going to miss at least eight weeks. It sure seems like it'll be longer and it's hard to imagine that the Colts bring him back for part of season -- thereby risking serious long-term injury -- if they're not in serious contention come November or December.

But what about longer than that? Turns out, the Colts built a little safeguard of sorts into the five-year, $95 million deal that Manning signed at the end of July. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the Colts incorporated a team option for a $28 million bonus that must be picked up five days before the start of the 2012 league year beginning.

In other words, Manning will get his full salary this season -- $23 million -- but the Colts could conceivably allow him to become an unrestricted free agent following this season if they decided not to pick up his option.

There's only one real scenario where this might happen, and that's if Peyton's recovery goes so poorly that he's on the verge of retiring because of potential life-threatening damage to his neck and/or spine should he continue to play football.

If Manning returns for the 2012 season -- as most doctors, both real and the unlicensed variety, ahem, believe he will -- you can bet that the Colts will be keeping him on the roster.

But it certainly warrants mentioning that they won't necessarily have to pay Peyton the full $95 million if he doesn't take another snap in his career.

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Posted on: September 8, 2011 3:07 pm
Edited on: September 9, 2011 5:52 am

Peyton Manning undergoes surgery, out 2-3 months?

Posted by Will Brinson

Peyton Manning underwent a neck surgery known as cervical fusion on Thursday and will miss two to three months while he recovers. If that reported timeline is accurate, it's lines up perfectly, as we predicted earlier, with Mike Freeman's report that the Colts were prepping to lose Manning for half a season.

Of course, "two to three months" is all relative.

If it's two, that's half a season and you can see why Freeman's sources were concerned with that number. If it's three months, well, that's three-fourths of the season and any sort of delay in the recovery process would almost certainly put Manning out for the season.

However, though this is Manning's third surgery in the past 19 months, the team will keep him on the active roster, the Colts said.

Don't anticipate Indy confirming any timeline for Peyton's return, though. In fact, they confirmed that they will not be confirming that, although the team did acknowledge the surgery.

"As previously stated on Monday, Sept. 5th, Peyton Manning has undergone further testing and consultation with several specialists regarding his rehabilitation. The results of these tests and the consensus of the consultations was that further surgery was warranted," the Colts said in a statement released by the team. "Peyton has undergone this surgery today by having a single level anterior fusion. The surgery was un-eventful.

"This procedure is performed regularly throughout the country on persons from all walks of life, including professional football players. Two former Colts players had this same procedure last winter and have fully resumed their careers. Rehabilitation from such surgery is typically an involved process. Therefore, there will be no estimation of a return date at this time. We will keep Peyton on the active roster until we have a clearer picture of his recovery process."

The Manning surgery was originally reported by ESPN's Chris Mortensen, who adds that "there is no word whether he'll be put on [injured reserve]." Mortensen also spoke with Archie Manning, the Colts quarterback's father.

"I think he's OK, probably because there's a little finality to this deal in terms of playing," Archie said. "He's been on the clock since May. He didn't make it. Obviously, it's a big letdown, but he can relax a little bit compared to the intensity of everything he has done trying to rehab."

Peyton's Progress

Will Carroll of Sports Illustrated paints an even bleaker picture, noting that "if reports of cervical fusion are correct, this is potentially career ending." Carroll also notes that "two to three months is unbelievably aggressive for [this] procedure."

For those wondering why the timeline for Manning has been so vague this week, Michael Lombardi of the NFL Network reports that Peyton "has traveled all over the U.S. trying to find a solution for his cervical problem, the latest recommendation resulted in surgery today."

If that's the case, it certainly makes sense that, as we said earlier today, no one with the Colts actually knew what the deal with Manning was, because he was out there trying to find out what -- if any -- options were available for him from other medical professionals.

The secrecy that's surrounded this entire process has been baffling, almost to the point where it's hard to fathom how we got here. So private, in fact, that even Peyton's older brother Cooper wasn't aware of what was going on with the quarterback's injury.

"[Peyton] values his privacy even within a very tight family like we have," Cooper told ESPN. "We've exchanged some short texts and I've given him his space. He's had a lot going on."

Cooper's not the only one who has sounded out of the know when it comes to Peyton's surgery -- Jim Caldwell didn't have much of an answer on Thursday when reporters inquired about a status update on Manning, shortly before news broke of the surgery.

Of course, Caldwell now has a much bigger concern: can the Colts win without Peyton. Our own Pete Prisco would tell you the Colts are "done" and he has a valid point about Peyton's ability to cover up other problems on the roster. Mike Freeman argues that we shouldn't "kill the Colts yet" because Kerry Collins is at least "not horrible."

And Collins isn't horrible. But he's not Peyton Manning. Which is the harsh reality the Colts will face -- for the first time since 1998 -- come Sunday.

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Posted on: September 8, 2011 2:05 pm
Edited on: September 8, 2011 2:46 pm

Caldwell on Irsay tweet: 'Obviously accurate'

Posted by Will Brinson

It continues to remain very odd that NFL-related conversation is about Peyton Manning missing time (and Jim Irsay tweeting) but that's today's world. And Peyton is going to miss time -- at least the first week of the season and, according to Irsay, he could be out 'awhile.'

Coach Jim Caldwell was asked about Irsay's slippery thumbs on Thursday and he confirmed the accuracy of said tweets.

"It’s obviously accurate or he wouldn’t have tweeted it," Caldwell said, per Phillip B. Wilson of the Indianapolis Star. "But nevertheless, just in terms of what kind of time frame we’re talking about, I think [Irsay] also stated he’s not quite certain of the time frame. None of us really know at this point in time. It’s a little bit in flux this week. But I do think we’re going to have maybe a little bit more clarity here shortly."

Shortly? Awhile? Ah, the NFL must be back if personnel men are speaking in the vaguest of terms about injuries. But, seriously coach, when are we going to find out? Like, perhaps by the end of the week?

"Hopefully yeah, I would anticipate that yes sir," Caldwell said. "As soon as we get [the news about Peyton], if that's this afternoon or if that's this evening or if it's tomorrow, we'll get it out immediately."

All of that -- ahem -- excitement over the possibility of getting news perhaps maybe some time in the near future doesn't really help. In fact, it only lends more credence to CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman's earlier report today that he's heard the Colts are preparing to deal with Manning missing either a half a season and that Manning didn't undergo a recent surgery as was rumored.

The Colts don't know he'll miss the year, one has to assume, because he's not on injured reserve. And maybe they really don't know anything -- Jay Glazer of FOXSports reported earlier that Manning could have additional surgery later this week.

"While I'm hearing Manning hasn't had surgery yet, I wouldn't be surprised if he has it before the weekend!" Glazer tweeted on Thursday. In a follow-up question from one of his followers about whether said hypothetical surgery would put Manning out for the season, Glazer wrote that he is "not hearing it will."

Let's take all of these factors and put them together: the owner of the Colts is preparing his fans for a long(ish) amount of time without Manning. The team's president ruled Manning out by midweek in a major rivalry game. The coach of the team does not have a clue about when he'll find out if Manning can play. And Manning could have more surgery soon but probably won't miss the entire season.

So, the lesson, as always: no one knows anything. Oh, and also: Peyton will be back in Week 9, win six games down the stretch and take the Colts to the playoffs.

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Posted on: September 8, 2011 9:44 am

Colts owner Irsay: Peyton's 'out for awhile'

Posted by Will Brinson

Alright, let's start with the bad news on Peyton Manning first: he is most definitely going to miss Sunday's game against the Texans, and there is no guarantee that he'll be back by Week 2. Or, well, for "awhile."

How long is that? Well, CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman is hearing that it could mean as much as "a large swath" which is somewhere between a half- and full season of missed time for Manning.

"Awhile" -- for now -- is simply the terminology that Colts owner Jim Irsay is throwing around Twitter, tweeting early Thursday morning to excitedly celebrate the beginning of football ... and potentially break the hearts of many an Indy football fan all at once.

"NFL Season opens 2nite!We had a good practice yesterday and r guys r fired up 4 the season," Irsay tweeted Thursday morning. "#18's out for awhile,but compete,we will/BELIEVE"

Emphasis mine there, obviously, and you can apply your own [sic]'s. But the point is that "out for awhile" can't be good news for Colts fans, especially when you factor how open and upfront Irsay and the front office are being about Peyton's injury.

They're notoriously secretive about things like this, and if we're seeing Peyton ruled out on Wednesday, well, he's pretty messed up and things aren't exactly in great shape.

As for some rumors that floated Wednesday about a third surgery earlier in the week, Irsay denied those on Twitter late in the evening Wednesday.

"Peyton didn't have a medical procedure last sunday,we'll have more info 2 add clarity 2 situation soon," Indy's owner tweeted.

So there's that. Unless "surgery" isn't a "medical procedure" and it may not even matter given that what's important here is a) Peyton's health and b) his timeline for recovery.

If it's half a season or -- heaven forbid -- a full season, well, Indy may resemble the chorus to Steely Dan's "Fire in the Hole" by the time the Super Bowl is played there in February: nothing left to burn and nowhere left to run.

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Posted on: September 7, 2011 12:35 pm
Edited on: September 7, 2011 2:08 pm

Peyton Manning officially ruled out for Sunday

Posted by Will Brinson

The Manning streak is dead. Long live the Manning streak. Well, Eli Manning's streak anyway. Because Peyton Manning's streak is officially over, as Bill Polian informed the public that the Colts have ruled their franchise quarterback out for Sunday's game against the Texans, ending his consecutive games started streak at 227.

"To say I am disappointed in not being able to play is an understatement," Manning said in a statement released by the team. "The best part about football is being out there on the field with my teammates.  It will be tough not to be out there playing for the organization and our fans.  I simply am not healthy enough to play, and I am doing everything I can to get my health back. 

"The team will do fine without me, and I know for sure that I will miss them much more than they will miss me.”

Peyton has been the talk of the NFL for more than a week now, as rumors of additional neck surgery swirled.

The chatter peaked when the Colts listed Manning as "doubtful" to play against the Texans on Sunday and now it's official that Manning's consecutive-start streak will end.

It seems improbable that Manning would miss the game because he hasn't missed a start since early in his college career, but it's also indicative of just how serious this injury is -- if Peyton isn't taking snaps from Jeff Saturday come Week 1, you best believe that he's dealing with a highly problematic injury.

Kerry Collins, who the Colts added in the offseason, will start for Indianapolis.

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Posted on: September 6, 2011 12:56 pm
Edited on: September 6, 2011 12:58 pm

Dungy concerned about the Colts' playoff chances

Tony Dungy on the Colts' playoff chances: “I would say no, because I would be concerned about Peyton Manning.” (Getty Images)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

We just saw this tweet from the National Football Post's Andrew Brandt: "Colts spending about $32 million on quarterback position in 2011. Redskins spending about $2 million."

This falls squarely in the category of "You get what you pay for," with the caveat that what you're paying for isn't injured. For Indianapolis, that's a huge problem right now. Peyton Manning, who hasn't missed a start since 1998 (a span of 208 games), back when Bill Clinton was president and cell phones were the size of iPads, is in real danger of doing just that come Sunday when the Colts face division rival Houston.

Indianapolis signed Kerry Collins last month in case Manning, whose recovery from offseason neck surgery has taken longer than anybody expected, wasn't ready to start the season. With Manning's status now a week-to-week issue, former Colts head coach Tony Dungy has real concerns that Indianapolis will even make the playoffs. This is a team that has qualified for the postseason 11 of the last 12 seasons, with Manning starting every game along the way.

Colts Crazy Preseason

“I would say no (the Colts won't make the playoffs), because I would be concerned about Peyton Manning,” Dungy said on the Dan Patrick Show Tuesday, according to PFT.com. “Just the fact that he may miss one game tells me that this is fairly serious.”

The Colts have Manning listed as "doubtful" for the Texans game, which means there's roughly a 25 percent chance he plays. CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman translates: "No way in hell" Manning will be on the field.

We joked on Monday's Pick-6 Podcast that the Colts are a perennial playoff team with Manning, a seven-win outfit with Collins, and would be lucky to win four games with Curtis Painter. (Upside: a 4-12 record would would perfectly positioned them in the Andrew Luck Sweepstakes which, honestly, is something the organization is going to have address much sooner than they planned.)

But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here. Manning's still on the team and will be on the field at some point soon. The problem: no one can pinpoint the date. And that, ultimately, will decide the fate for this team in 2011.

“I think it all depends on Peyton Manning,” Dungy said. “If he misses a lot of time I think it’s going to be very difficult for them to make it. If he misses one or two games, I think they still will win the division.”

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Posted on: September 5, 2011 11:31 am
Edited on: September 5, 2011 12:02 pm

Peyton 'doubtful' for Week 1, won't practice

Posted by Will Brinson

Peyton Manning's been the story of the NFL preseason thus far, thanks to a complicated neck surgery he underwent 15 weeks ago and the slow process which which he's recovered.

It became a bigger story on Monday when the Colts announced that not only has his rehab "slowed," but that Manning won't practice leading up to the Week 1 game against the Texans and will be listed as "doubtful" on the official injury report.

"During the last week, the rate of improvement in Peyton’s rehabilitation process slowed," the Colts said in a statement released by the team Monday. "Over the weekend Peyton experienced soreness in his back. It was originally thought to be a normal reaction to his rehabilitation regimen. When the soreness persisted, the Colts medical team decided to initiate diagnostic tests and to consult with a number of specialists around the country who have been involved in Peyton’s case from the outset. That process continues.

"As a result of the most recent development the doctors have decided that Peyton will not practice. His participation therefore, in Sunday’s game versus Houston will likely be doubtful. We will update his playing status as required by NFL policy as the week goes on."

The Colts also added that "the end date" of Peyton's recovery "is unpredictable" and that "it serves no useful purpose to speculate about hypothetical outcomes."

Which is precisely what I'll do right now: it doesn't look good for Peyton playing.

Colts Crazy Preseason

That seems insane, but, hey it's been a busy day for Indy, who also announced that new gameday consultant Jim Tressel would serve a non-suspension suspension for the first six games of the season.

And it's still entirely possible that Peyton does play in Week 1 against Houston. Here's the logic for why he won't: Indianapolis has 16 games they'll play this season, and while the first one against Houston is extremely important, it won't decide the fate of their 2011 season.

Additionally, the newest backup in town, Kerry Collins, has seen the Texans a time or two in his career. And while he's just 3-4 against Houston (which probably won't impress at least one of his wide receivers) he has completed 53.8 percent of his passes for 1,550 yards in seven games while throwing for six touchdowns and nine interceptions.

Those aren't Peyton Manning numbers, of course, but they're also not Curtis Painter numbers either.

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