Tag:Drew Rosenhaus
Posted on: June 22, 2011 9:49 pm
 

Watch Terrelle Pryor throw passes to NFL WRs

Posted by Ryan Wilson

It's been eight days since Terrelle Pryor's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, convened a press conference to let everyone know that he expect his client to be a "first-round pick" in the NFL's supplemental draft. It was the first of many PR sleights of hand by Rosenhaus to manufacture interest in Pryor who, by most accounts isn't worth more than a fourth-round pick.

But sometimes perceptions trump reality and when Rosenhaus is writing the script and working the stage lights it's hard to tell where make-believe ends and the truth begins. As NFL Network's Mike Mayock said last week: "Nobody is better than Rosenhaus in driving perceived value. … Sometimes perceived value is almost as good as real value if he can get enough people talking about [Pryor] as a first-round pick."

On Monday, ESPN's Jon Gruden was in Florida to tape a very special "QB Camp" episode featuring Pryor. In an excerpted clip Gruden asks Pryor about the whole "So, what in the world happened at Ohio State?" situation that prompted Pryor to leave school earlier this month.

The show airs in its entirety next week, and perhaps in an effort to lessen the blow of any missteps with Gruden (either on the field on in the classroom), Rosenhaus has released a 75-second video of Pryor working out. He's seen throwing passes to Chad Ochocinco and Antonio Brown who both happen to be represented by Rosenhaus. (Now we're just waiting for Brown to offer unsolicited praise for Pryor's quarterbacking skills.)

As PFT's Michael David Smith notes, "Obviously, Rosenhaus isn’t going to let footage of Pryor’s bad throws get out, so the video that’s been released won’t tell us a whole lot. But it’s still interesting to see how Pryor looks when dropping back and throwing to NFL receivers."



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Posted on: June 21, 2011 2:54 pm
Edited on: June 21, 2011 3:13 pm
 

Browns doing 'due diligence' on Terrelle Pryor

Posted by Ryan Wilson

When asked Monday about whether the Browns might have interested in quarterback Terrelle Pryor, coach Pat Shurmur would only say, "I can't comment on that situation."

Maybe he can't comment, but the Cleveland Plain Dealer's Mary Kay Cabot will: "The Browns are intrigued enough by former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor to do their due diligence on him for the supplemental draft, a league source told The Plain Dealer."

"Due diligence" is a start, but it's a long way from actually submitting a bid for Pryor in the NFL supplemental draft, much less making him a first-round pick as agent Drew Rosenhaus has previously proclaimed.

The doubts about Pryor as an NFL quarterback have been well documented. Putting aside Rosenhaus' assessment, the consensus among draft experts is that Pryor is no better than a fourth-round selection.

But maybe that's where the Browns envision bidding on him.

(Unlike the regular draft, the supplemental draft is an auction; teams are grouped by record and submit bids based on which round they would take a prospect. Highest bid wins).

As it stands, Cleveland has second-year quarterback Colt McCoy and veterans Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme. McCoy appears to be the favorite to win the job, and Delhomme, who the Browns inexplicably paid $7 million in 2010, could be released (although he shouldn't have trouble finding work).

Cabot writes that if the Browns think Pryor is worth pursuing, they could draft him as the No. 3 QB next season. Cabot also points out that Monday Night Football color analyst Jon Gruden is a protege and close confidant of Browns president Mike Holmgren (Gruden worked on Holmgren's staff in Green Bay in the 1990s), and he's also pretty high on Pryor's talents.

But he's not the only one. Last week, ESPN.com AFC North blogger James Walker made the case for the Browns taking a flyer on Pryor.

"Pryor is projected to be a fourth-round pick in July's supplemental draft by everyone not named Drew Rosenhaus," Walker wrote June 16. "That's a modest cost for someone with Pryor's athletic ability, big-game experience and pedigree. That is especially the case for the Browns, who have nine draft picks next year -- including two first-rounders -- following a cunning trade with the Atlanta Falcons."

Walker also notes that Pryor would have access to two of the league's best QB coaches: Holmgren and Shurmur, who have worked with Brett Favre, Matt Hasselbeck, Donovan McNabb and Sam Bradford.

And then there's this: After the April draft, Holmgren admitted that his only regret was not taking a quarterback.

"I think, philosophically, I always like to take a quarterback in the draft late," Holmgren said at the time. "But that also had to make sense. This year, based on our roster needs and what we had and what we needed to do, we did the right thing. Now, are we finished adding to the quarterback pile? I don’t think so but maybe we are, but I don’t think so. I think we are going to try and figure out a way to get another guy in here but you do what you have to do when the draft comes up to make good decisions and Pat and Tom did that.”

Channeling Rosenhaus and Pryor: "So you're telling me there's a chance?"

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Posted on: June 20, 2011 7:32 pm
Edited on: June 20, 2011 7:53 pm
 

Gruden, Pryor film new 'QB Camp' segment for ESPN

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Another day, another Terrelle Pryor post. Yes, we know, he's just 12 days removed from college and this is an NFL blog. Welcome to June in the middle of a lockout.

Anyway, TampaBay.com's Greg Auman writes that former Bucaneers coach-turned-ESPN analyst Jon Gruden has a new contestant for his QB Camp television spectacle that originally ran in the weeks leading up to the 2011 NFL Draft. You guessed it: it's Pryor, who said in a press conference last week that he's entering the supplemental draft. (And as you've probably heard, Pryor's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, expects his client to be a "first-round pick.")

According to Auman, "Pryor said he spent six hours Monday morning watching and breaking down video with Gruden -- a major part of the ESPN show -- and said the chance to work with the former Bucs coach was a great opportunity."

In previous pre-draft episodes, Gruden hosted Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, Ryan Mallett and Jake Locker (details here).

After Monday's session Pryor said, "There's too much to learn from [Gruden]. I enjoyed the time … He's a great coach and a great mentor. I'm just trying to get better."

Auman adds that Rosenhaus has instructed Pryor not to talk to the media about his draft preparations, although Pryor admitted that he was returning to Miami because "I've got some training to do."

In April, before the Buckeye's football program was beset by scandal, Gruden spoke at the Ohio State coaches clinic. It's where he first met Pryor. And when Gruden was asked if he thought Pryor was an NFL prospect, he said, "Yeah, I do -- I really do," Columbus Dispatch reported. "Again, I'm accused of liking too many people. 'Gruden likes everybody.' Well, sorry about that. (But) Bill Walsh used to say, 'Don't tell me what this guy can't do. Tell me what he can do."

That said, even Glass-Half-Full Gruden qualified his laudatory remarks.

"...Terrelle Pryor can run and he can throw," he said at the time. "And he's a helluva competitor. And if I coached him, I'd find something for him to do. You might have to cater your offense to a degree towards his strengths. But I think this guy can develop his passing the more you pass the ball. And I think the guy is a unique, rare talent."

This very special episode of QB Camp will air Thursday, June 30, at 9 p.m. EST on ESPN.

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Posted on: June 19, 2011 8:00 pm
Edited on: June 19, 2011 8:17 pm
 

More bad news for Terrelle Pryor's draft stock

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Terrelle Pryor's transition from Ohio State to the NFL isn't going nearly as well as his transition from high school to college. The top-ranked prep quarterback three years ago, Pryor, who left Ohio State earlier this month, is considered by most people to be no better than a middling NFL prospect.

And we have another name to add to the list: National, the largest scouting service for NFL teams, gave Pryor a grade of 5.1, which translates into a sixth- or seventh-round selection.

We say "most people" because Pryor's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, proclaimed in a press conference last week that his client is "a first-round pick." Those who make their livings evaluating players instead of representing them disagree; NFL Films' Greg Cosell gave Pryor a "late-round" grade, NFL Network's Mike Mayock was slightly more generous, suggesting Pryor might be a fourth-rounder. Former NFL head coaches Marty Schottenheimer and Jerry Glanville said, in their own special way, thanks but no thanks. (Apparently, they didn't read Chad Ochocinco's multiple scouting reports.)

NationalFootballPost.com's Aaron Wilson provides some background on the scouting service:
National annually grades over 1,400 draft eligible college seniors, providing information to nearly two dozen NFL clubs for a fee of over $100,000 to compile the data. Several teams also subscribe to BLESTO. And other teams like the Baltimore Ravens aren't associated with either well-respected scouting service.

A 9.0 is the highest possible grade for a blue-chip prospect with grades ranging as low as 1.0 for a player who isn't projected to play professional football. A 7.0 grade usually connotes a first-round draft target with 6.0 or higher denoting a player who could go in the top 75 overall selections.
Hey, at least Pryor didn't get a 1.0. Nonetheless, this can't make Rosenhaus happy, although as Mayock pointed out previously, "Nobody is better than Rosenhaus in driving perceived value. … Sometimes perceived value is almost as good as real value if he can get enough people talking about [Pryor] as a first-round pick."

To do that, however, Rosenhaus needs to quiet all the experts coming out of the woodwork to remind us that Pryor is probably, at best a fourth-rounder, and at worst not worth the trouble. 



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Posted on: June 17, 2011 8:10 pm
Edited on: June 17, 2011 8:26 pm
 

Ochocinco has another scouting report on Pryor

C. Ochocinco has been singing the praises of T. Pryor (Getty).Posted by Josh Katzowitz

It was no big surprise when Bengals WR Chad Ochocinco went out of his way the other day to praise former Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor after the two worked out together in South Florida.

After all, Ochocinco and Pryor share the same agent -- the all-mighty Drew Rosenhaus -- and Ochocinco is known for making exaggerated claims, especially when he’s updating his Twitter feed.

So when asked on ESPN 1000 (via Pro Football Talk) in Chicago today about his scouting report on Pryor – who, um, has not been as well received by those who break down film for a living --Ochocinco doubled down on his original claims.

Terrelle Pryor's NFL future
Said Ochocinco: “I understand the whole hoopla everybody saying all this, you know, OK, he messed up. I had the first chance actually yesterday was my second day throwing with Pryor. Dude’s arm strength [and] timing was unbelievable. I don’t care what ESPN said, I don’t care what they report, I saw with my own eyes. I’ve seen every NFL quarterback play. Dude, it was unbelievable. With the right coaching, he can become a great NFL quarterback because he has all the tools. He has all the tools that these scouts look for in a quarterback.”

Ochocinco also pooh-poohed a question about whether the Rosenhaus connection played a part in his overexcitement. Naturally, Ochocinco denied that. Either way, it doesn’t matter. Ochocinco isn’t going to be drafting anybody anyway, and neither are any of the analysts who have studied tape on Pryor.

But if I was forced to choose, I’d go with the analysts before I believed anything Ochocinco said.

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Posted on: June 16, 2011 3:25 pm
Edited on: June 16, 2011 3:52 pm
 

Trent Cole compares Kevin Kolb to Tom Brady

Posted by Ryan Wilson

If super agent Drew Rosenhaus can call Terrelle Pryor a first-round pick, then Eagles defensive end Trent Cole can compare teammate Kevin Kolb to Tom Brady. Appearing Wednesday on SiriusXM Blitz with Adam Schein, Cole spoke glowingly of Kolb, who has played in just 19 games since Philadelphia selected him in the second round of the 2007 draft.

“Kolb can play," Cole said. "He is very, very accurate. I compare him to Tom Brady. I really do. They can both throw it downfield. But they both know how to use the entire field. They can take five yards and work with that, make it 10 or 15 with yards after the catch. Kolb can make every throw. He knows where his players are. He, like Brady, is a great leader.”

Kolb seems well liked by his teammates, and by most accounts, he has the talent to be an NFL starting quarterback. It's just that the few opportunities he's had to prove it have either ended in injury or poor showings.

Even if Cole is laying it on a bit thick with the Tom Brady talk, "potential" will keep teams interested long after they have any reason to be. In February, before we entered the NFL's version of "Operation Shutdown," Kolb was often mentioned as a possible trade target for QB-needy teams. Here's what Football Outsiders' Bill Barnwell said about Kolb at the time:

"Kolb's raw statistics look worse than [Michael] Vick's -- especially his 3.7 percent interception rate, more than twice Vick's rate of 1.6 percent -- but a lot of that has to do with Kolb's Week 17 start against the Cowboys," Barnwell said. "That game came with rookie Austin Howard making his first career start at left tackle against DeMarcus Ware, and the Eagles left LeSean McCoy, Jeremy Maclin and DeSean Jackson on the bench. Kolb threw three interceptions, two of which came on Hail Mary passes. Take out that game and the Eagles' pass offense DVOA with Kolb under center was 28.9 percent; with Vick, it was 29.9 percent."

Schein suggested Wednesday that Andy Reid's tutelage makes Kolb "the perfect fit in Ken Whisenhunt’s offense." If the conversation is "Do you think Kolb is an upgrade over Derek Anderson?" the answer is a resounding yes. But that's a far cry from "a perfect fit."

Last month, Scout.com theorized that the Cardinals "wonder about [Kolb's] decision making," adding: "But mostly the Cardinals' brass wonders if Kolb is the right fit for ... Whisenhunt's offense. … In theory at least, the Arizona passing design is more vertical than that in Philadelphia, takes some pages from the Mike Martz passing game and expects quarterbacks to drive the ball into the intermediate and deep windows with accuracy."

If there's a new CBA in place in the coming weeks and free agency follows, it's a good bet that Kolb will be traded. We can all agree that he's not the next coming of Tom Brady, but he's certainly better than anyone currently on the Cardinals' depth chart. And sometimes you don't need a Hall of Famer to get you to the postseason, just someone to avoid the icebergs. At the very least, Kolb appears capable of that.

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Posted on: June 16, 2011 1:44 pm
Edited on: June 16, 2011 2:35 pm
 

Possible NFL landing spots for Terrelle Pryor

Posted by Ryan Wilson

If you're of the opinion that Ray Lewis and Ed Reed would be good locker room influences on any player with off-field issues, then you may have no problem with John Clayton's suggestion that the Ravens might be one of five teams willing to take a flyer on Terrelle Pryor. If you don't buy the initial premise (and some folks are understandably skeptical), then the whole argument falls apart.

Writing for ESPN, Clayton admits that "This might be a bit of a reach, but as a lower-round selection Pryor could interest the Ravens as a receiver. Having him learn under Anquan Boldin would be the key. Boldin was a quarterback in college and uses the knowledge gained there to put himself in position to help his quarterback."

We agree. It's a reach. Not because the Ravens aren't willing to gamble with talented but troubled players (they are), but because if we're to take agent Drew Rosenhaus at his word (we'll wait while you quit laughing), he thinks Pryor is not only an NFL quarterback but a "first-round pick."

Perhaps that stance will soften as teams explain to Rosenhaus that his client probably isn't worth more than a fourth-rounder. Although, as Mike Mayock pointed out Wednesday night, "Nobody is better than Rosenhaus in driving perceived value. … Sometimes perceived value is almost as good as real value if he can get enough people talking about [Pryor] as a first-round pick."

Other possible destinations, according to Clayton: Oakland, Miami, Pittsburgh and Washington.
Terrelle Pryor's NFL future

The Raiders makes sense because, well, it's the Raiders. Once Al Davis sees Pryor's 40 time, he very well could be a first-rounder. Still, that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

Clayton says the Dolphins "want to add someone to compete against Chad Henne," and we agree. It's just not going to be Pryor. Remember: Miami wasted a second-rounder on Pat White two years ago. Pat White is now out of the NFL.

As for Pittsburgh, Clayton notes that, "Many scouts believe Pryor potentially has Dennis Dixon-like ability as quarterback." Dennis Dixon also never had off-field issues (just the opposite, in fact). He's also been an adequate NFL backup and nothing more. Probably not worth the potential headaches that will accompany Pryor, even if Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau is impartial to Ohio State players.

Finally, there are the Redskins. Like the Raiders -- and given their blindfold-and-a-dartboard personnel philosophy -- it makes too much sense not to happen. To Clayton's credit, he calls Pryor-to-Washington a long shot, even given the fact that Mike Shanahan doesn't have an starting-caliber QB currently on the roster.

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Posted on: June 15, 2011 9:52 pm
Edited on: June 16, 2011 2:48 pm
 

Mayock on Pryor: He's a 4th-round pick

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Another day, another expert weighs in on Terrelle Pryor's NFL prospects. Appearing on NFL Network's Wednesday edition of Total Access, respected draft analysts Mike Mayock spoke about Pryor.

But before we get to Mayock's levelheaded and well-reasoned evaluation, a quick trip in the time machine. Tuesday, Pryor's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, convened a press conference to offer up his own scouting report on his client. Enjoy.
For anybody who questions where he's going to be drafted, I expect him to be a first-round pick in the supplemental draft. This league needs quarterbacks. Are you kidding me? Middle round for this guy?

You talk about Cam Newton being the first pick of the draft and he deserves it? Let me tell you what, I'll make all the comparisons all day long: [Pryor] is 31-4 at Ohio State. He has 8,000 total yards in three years. He holds 59 touchdowns -- a record at Ohio State. This is Big 10 football that he has dominated.

He is going to be a great NFL quarterback.
Back on earth, Mayock shared his thoughts on Pryor.
Nobody is better than Drew Rosenhaus in driving perceived value. Now, that's his job and I have no problem with that. Sometimes perceived value is almost as good as real value if he can get enough people talking about [Pryor] as a first-round pick.
Terrelle Pryor's NFL future

I watched four hours of tape yesterday, and I only did three games. Off my tape evaluation, if I'm Vegas Vic, I set the over-under line at the fourth round. Can somebody take him in the third round? Absolutely.

The value for [Pryor] as a rookie is in packages. In other words, I think the New York Jets are the best wildcat team in the NFL. Why? Because Brad Smith can throw the football just well enough to keep you honest.

And I think that's what this kid can do. He can be a package quarterback Year 1 while you develop his skill set. Is he raw? Absolutely. Does he have a lot to work on? Yes, he does. And that doesn't even get into all the intangibles off the field.
As for those off-the-field issues, Mayock thinks that the short timeframe between now and the supplemental draft will ultimately hurt Pryor in two areas.
One: off-the-field intangibles and how well are teams willing to get to know this kid. And No. 2: look at Colin Kaepernick, who's kind of a similar big kid, great athlete. He got himself up into the high second round. Now he's got a cannon for an arm, but he also had the benefit of the process, meaning he played in the Senior Bowl, he went to the combine, he went through his pro day, all the teams got to know him. The San Francisco 49ers fell in love with his upside and took him as a high second-round pick.

Terrelle Pryor does not have the advantage of the process a) to clear his name, and b) to show us that he can drive the football with accuracy.
Mayock is more bullish on Pryor than other experts but still pegs him as a fourth-rounder. This is a far cry from Rosenhaus' "first-round pick" decree Tuesday, although it reinforces Mayock's earlier point that "sometimes perceived value is almost as good as real value."

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