Tag:Brady Quinn
Posted on: June 6, 2011 11:15 am
Edited on: June 6, 2011 11:38 am
 

Maybe Delhomme can mentor Tebow in Denver?

Posted by Ryan Wilson

It happens every time a team hires a new coach: he populates the roster with players from his previous team, ostensibly because he knows them better than the players he just inherited. Rex Ryan brought Bart Scott and Jim Leonhard with him to New York from Baltimore, Josh McDaniels had Jabar Gaffney from New England, and the Cardinals are now known as Steelers West because Ken Whisenhunt has yet to meet a former Pittsburgh player he wouldn't sign in Arizona.

Which brings us to John Fox, the new guy in Denver, who likely spends his days trying to figure out who will be the Broncos starting quarterback once the season starts. Kyle Orton seems the obvious choice after passing for almost 7,500 yards and 41 touchdowns the last two seasons. But Denver also drafted Tim Tebow in the first round of the 2010 draft, and it wasn't to convert him to tight end. Like it or not, Tebow will be in the mix for the job once training camps start, and there has been interest from quarterback-needy teams in Orton's services should he become available.

In Sunday's Denver Post, Mike Klis writes about the ambiguity surrounding the Broncos quarterback situation and the issues that come with naming Orton or Tebow the starter.

"Orton would be a controversial starter to the enormous contingent of Tim Tebow followers, and to those who believe the Broncos can't move on until they find out whether the memoirist can cut it as a winning NFL quarterback," Klis notes before adding, "Tebow would be a controversial choice to those who don't believe he's ready, and because his enormous fame and squeaky-clean image seems to polarize the masses.

"The Broncos could begin the season with Orton as the starter and Tebow the backup, so long as Fox understands that the tension of starting the clock on Tebow Time would be wound tight. If Tebow is the starter, Orton would be too disgruntled, and rightly so."

That last bit sounds familiar.

Klis then puts forth an idea that only Fox could get behind: "For Tebow to properly develop, he needs a backup who knows his place. ...Jake Delhomme would make sense in helping Tebow and the Broncos transition into the Fox era."

The only problem is that if Tebow got injured during the season, Delhomme would, you know, have to actually play. Fox has firsthand experience with what Bad Jake can do to an offense, although the man did cry when the Panthers released Delhomme a year ago. But no one -- not even Fox, presumably -- thought the Browns were shrewd in paying Delhomme $7 million in 2010 when it was clear he had nothing left.

That said, Delhomme dutifully assumed his role as backup and mentor to rookie Colt McCoy last season. There's no reason to think he wouldn't be willing to do the same for Tebow, especially if it reunited him with Fox. It just has to be with the understanding that Tebow is a long way from being a consistent NFL starting quarterback. If fans have the patience to let Tebow learn by doing (and let's be honest, "fanaticism" and "tolerance" aren't often mentioned in the same breath), it could accelerate his progress.

On the other hand, the Broncos traded franchise quarterback Jay Cutler to the Bears after the 2008 season. We're not convinced moving Orton just so Tebow can play is in the long-term best interests of the organization. It probably goes without saying, but Broncos fans have McDaniels to thank for all this.

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Posted on: May 31, 2011 4:14 pm
Edited on: May 31, 2011 9:58 pm
 

Report: Tim Tebow organizes workouts for WRs

Posted by Ryan Wilson

In the months leading up to the 2010 NFL Draft, there was speculation that Tim Tebow, college phenom, would be a flop in the pros, at least as a quarterback. There was talk that he'd be moved to tight end or H-back, or maybe even linebacker. The Broncos, then coached by Josh McDaniels (who also happened to be the Patriots' offensive coordinator during the record-breaking 2007 season), thought enough of Tebow to take him with the 25th overall pick.

Kyle Orton, who was coming off a 3,802-yard passing performance that included 21 TDs in '09, began 2010 as Denver's starter, but after suffering bruised ribs, Orton gave way to Tebow for the final three games of the year. The results: a loss to the Raiders, a win against the Texans and a season-ending loss to the Chargers.

Most of the time it wasn't pretty. Tebow ended the year completing half his throws for 654 yards, five TDs and three picks (and added another 227 yards on the ground), but putting up pretty stats isn't his calling card. It's his toughness, his tenacity and his ability to lead his teammates.

With McDaniels out, new coach John Fox named Kyle Orton the starter, with Tebow and Brady Quinn in the running. (At least that was the case earlier this month when Fox told season-ticket holders as much during a conference call. If the price is right, however, the situation could change.) That hasn't stopped Tebow from preparing like a starter, even with the uncertainty surrounding the 2011 season.

ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Monday that Tebow organized his own team workouts in Jacksonville with Broncos wide receivers.

"Last week, Tebow flew Broncos wide receiver Brandon Lloyd, Jabar Gaffney and Britt Davis to Jacksonville, put them up in a nearby hotel, and then led a week of workouts in his hometown, [a league] source said," according to Schefter.

"Each of the Broncos receivers had hoped to come, the source said, but Eric Decker had another commitment, and Demaryius Thomas (torn Achilles) and Eddie Royal (strained hamstring) were unable to practice at this time due to lingering injuries."

Schefter adds that the receivers who showed up in Jacksonville "considered it such a success that the group plans to reconvene in another week or so in Arizona for two weeks of intensive workouts."

No word on what, if anything, Orton has planned.

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Posted on: December 16, 2010 7:46 pm
 

Broncos not ready to say that Tebow will start

Posted by Josh Katzowitz

Kyle Orton didn’t practice Wednesday, and during the portion open to the media today, Tim Tebow, once again, was the one taking the first-team snaps. But if you think the Broncos are going to announce Tebow as the starting QB, you’re likely going to be wrong. At this point, at least.

According to the Denver Post, Denver still wants Orton to start Sunday vs. the Raiders. If the Broncos do have to start Tebow, they likely wouldn’t announce it until just before game time.

"I still think we have time. I'm not in a hurry to make that decision," interim head coach Eric Studesville told reporters. "We still have plenty of time to do rehab and take care of the bumps and bruises, not just for Kyle but for a lot of guys on the team. As long as we've got time, we're going to utilize it."

Orton’s ribs are hurting after taking a shot from the Cardinals defense last week. It allowed Tebow to run with the first team through most of Wednesday’s practice (Brady Quinn took some snaps as well).

"He did a nice job in practice yesterday. He went in there and ran the huddle, he did a nice job throwing the ball, and going through alert systems in the run game," offensive coordinator Mike McCoy said. "It was great for Timmy to get in there and have the majority of the snaps.”

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Posted on: November 9, 2010 1:48 pm
 

Is the Hillis trade the worst in DEN history?

P. Hillis was a trade that Cleveland can benefit from. Denver? Not so much (Getty) Posted by Josh Katzowitz

For those who think, “Worst trade ever,” when they reminisce about the Broncos swap of RB Peyton Hillis to the Browns for QB Brady Quinn (yep, much to Josh McDaniels’ chagrin, that actually happened), the Denver Post has some good news for you.

Well, “good news” might be stretching it. But Mark Kiszla does lend some perspective on a few of the worst trades in Broncos history. In effect, Kiszla writes the Hillis-Quinn deal won’t go down as the absolute worst thing ever.

But he has to go quite a ways back to make his point.

The three trades he remembers:

The trade of CB Willie Brown to the Raiders. Brown eventually made the Pro Football HOF. This occurred in 1967.

In 1968, Denver rid itself of Curley Culp, because they weren’t sure what position he should play. Kansas City figured it out, made him a nose guard, and thus, began the 3-4 defense that continues to be so in vogue.

In 1979, the Broncos traded Lyle Alzado to Oakland for Rulon Jones. Both went on make meaningful impacts on their new teams, but Alzado won a Super Bowl title with the Raiders. Jones did not.

For the record, the Post also has a poll on the website that asks which of those four should be considered the worst trade in team history. With 60.1 percent of the vote, Hillis for Quinn is the winner so far.

So, Mazel Tov to McDaniels for that.

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Posted on: October 19, 2010 9:12 am
 

Top Ten With a Twist: 2007 Drafted QBs

JaMarcus Russell, the first pick taken in the 2007 NFL Draft, is one of the bustiest draft picks in league history (US Presswire). Posted by Josh Katzowitz

I saw an interesting tweet from @PScrags a few weeks ago, and it went like this: “FACT: Of the 10 quarterbacks drafted in the 2007 NFL Draft, not ONE is a current starting NFL quarterback.”

That perked my ears, and I thought I’d check out that particular Draft and see what happened to that non-illustrious 10 (in doing my own painstaking research, I discovered there actually were 11 QBs taken that year). As of today, PScrags' statement isn’t exactly true, though it could be soon, assuming Michael Vick retains his starting spot for the Eagles.

Carolina's Matt Moore, it should be noted, was an undrafted free agent that year, and now he’s back to being a starter after Jimmy Clausen showed he’s clearly not ready to play in the NFL. But Moore wasn't drafted anyway, so we're not including him.

1st Round

No. 1. JaMarcus Russell, Raiders: Well, we all know what happened to him, don’t we? The only question now is this: how many of us were introduced to Purple Drank because of Russell? A fair number, I suppose. Therefore, a toast to Russell. A toast of Purple Drank.

No. 22. Brady Quinn, Browns: Remember how amazed we were by how far Quinn had fallen in the Draft and how long he had to sit in the green room? Remember how some people thought he could be a No. 1 overall pick? Jeez, how crazy are some mock drafters anyway? He’s now, depending on the day, either the second- or third-string QB in Denver.

2nd round

No. 36. Kevin Kolb, Eagles: Well, he was the starter at the season’s beginning. Before the concussion and before Michael Vick transformed himself into one of the NFL’s elite quarterbacks. When Vick returns, he likely will knock Kolb into the backup spot. Unless Andy Reid changes his mind once again. And because Kolb has played well in Vick's absence, that's a possibility.

No. 40. John Beck, Dolphins: He was the third-string QB in Baltimore during the offseason, but that was before Marc Bulger came into the picture. He was traded to Washington where … he’s the third-string QB.

D. Stanton came in relief of S. Hill during Sunday's Detroit game (US Presswire). No. 43. Drew Stanton, Lions: I bet you didn’t know this: Stanton threw a TD in his first-ever NFL attempt. Ultimately, that probably will be the highlight of his career. When Matthew Stafford returns to the field after the Week 7 bye, Stanton will fall back to No. 2 (until backup Shaun Hill recovers from his forearm injury).

3rd round

No. 92. Trent Edwards, Bills: The wound is still too fresh to delve into the details, but in one week, Edwards lost his starting job and then lost his backup job. Jacksonville has since claimed him off waivers. Let me repeat: the Bills – who might be the worst team in football – decided they couldn’t use him. Edwards replaced David Garrard on Monday Night Football after Garrard sustained a concussion, and actually, Edwards didn't play badly.

4th round

No. 103. Isaiah Stanback, Cowboys: What can we say about Isaiah Stanback? Namely, he has five pass receptions in his pro career. He tore his Achilles in the preseason with Seattle, and he was released soon after. It’s almost not fair to call him a QB, but that’s what he did in college, so that’s how we’ll list him.

5th round

No. 151: Jeff Rowe, Bengals: He sat behind Carson Palmer and Ryan Fitzpatrick for a season. The next year, he lost his third-string job to Jordan Palmer. Ah, nepotism sucks, eh? Unless, of course, you’re the recipient of that nepotism. Then, it’s awesome.

No. 174. Troy Smith, Ravens: When Baltimore signed Bulger to back up Joe Flacco, that signaled the end of Smith’s time with the Ravens. There’s little doubt Smith has great athleticism, but he’s proven he’s not a starting QB in the NFL. He’s currently the third-string QB in San Francisco.

6th round

No. 205. Jordan Palmer, Redskins: Jeff Rowe’s worst nightmare. Actually, Palmer is one snap away from taking older brother Carson’s job if the latter has to leave the game because of injury.

7th round


No. 217. Tyler Thigpen, Vikings: Thigpen actually has had a better career than many of the QBs on this list. Sure, he’s the third-string QB in Miami, but he’s started 11 NFL games (with an absurd record of 1-10) and he’s thrown 19 TDs against 15 INTs.

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Posted on: October 5, 2010 10:14 am
Edited on: October 5, 2010 6:41 pm
 

Top Ten With a Twist: Curse of Wally Pipp

P. Hillis has taken over the Cleveland running game (US Presswire).

Posted by Josh Katzowitz

We’re a quarter of the way into the season, and some players who were originally slated to be backups suddenly have emerged as starters. Maybe it was through an injury to the former starter. Maybe it was because the starter wasn’t as good as the team thought and the backup was better. Maybe it was because – and Wally Pipp could relate to this – somebody just needed an off-day.

In fairness to the old-time Yankees first baseman, who was replaced one day (permanently, it turned out) in 1925 by a guy named Lou Gehrig because Pipp had a headache, that story might not be true exactly. Instead, he might have been benched because manager Miller Huggins simply wanted to shake up the lineup. Either way, Gehrig played the next 2,130 games, and Pipp ended up in … Cincinnati (and apparently, he was also one of Sports Illustrated’s first writing hires, one of those cool but useless facts).

Anyway, there have been some impact players to emerge this season so far, simply because they, like Gehrig, were given that chance to shine. Some have won a starting position. Some are just holding it until the real starter returns. But they’re all making a (mostly good) impression. It sounds like the perfect Top Ten With a Twist list to me.

10. Lance Moore, WR/PR, Saints: The story of Moore’s career. A Saints starts gets injured. Moore steps in and makes plays. Remember in 2008 when Moore caught a team-high 79 passes for 928 yards and 10 touchdowns after Marques Colston was hurt? Obviously, when Reggie Bush returns from his broken leg, Moore will fade back into the background – maybe. But man, he looked electric against the Falcons (six catches, 149 yards, two touchdowns), and he’s become a big target for New Orleans when it’s in the red zone.

9. Max Hall, QB, Cardinals: Look, we all know Derek Anderson isn’t a very good quarterback. But I didn’t think he would have a chance to lose his job this early. Hall, meanwhile, was a 2010 undrafted free agent (seriously, how poor is Anderson to lose to an undrafted free agent?). Not that Hall was great when he replaced Anderson on Sunday, because he wasn’t, but he might be Arizona’s best option at this point. Coach Ken Whisenhunt, meanwhile, isn’t talking. “I think we're going to go without [a quarterback) this week,” he joked Monday. “I think we're going to go with all Wildcat."

8. BenJarvus Green-Ellis, RB, Patriots: He averaged about eight carries per game his rookie year in 2008, but with Kevin Faulk lost for the season – and Fred Taylor unavailable for the Miami game Monday – Green-Ellis (47 carries this year for 215 yards) has already nearly doubled his attempts from last year. He had his breakout in Week 3 against Buffalo when he carried the ball 16 times for 98 yards and a score, and vs. the Dolphins, he was impressive with a 16-carry, 78-yard, one-touchdown performance.

7. Shaun Hill, QB, Lions:
The reason Hill is so low on this list is because there’s no way he’ll take the job from Matthew Stafford. But still, how impressive has Hill looked the past few weeks? After Stafford went out with the shoulder injury in Week 1, Hill was terrible. But the past three weeks, he’s completed 61.9 percent of his passes for five touchdowns and six interceptions (he’s also averaging 301 passing yards per game), and he really impressed me in Detroit’s two-point loss to Green Bay.

6. Bruce Gradkowski, QB, Raiders: It didn’t take long for Raiders coach Tom Cable to figure out that, in order to save his job, he’d take his chances with Gradkowski instead of Jason Campbell. This is not to say Gradkowski is an elite quarterback, because that’s a laughable notion. But he played well at times when he was in Tampa Bay after Chris Simms ruptured his spleen in 2006 (Gradkowski failed to win the starting job in 2007). For now, though, Gradkowski is entrenched as Cable’s guy. As long as Cable is around.

5. Koa Misi, LB, Dolphins: Ikaika Alama-Francis was supposed to be the starter, but the night before the season opener, he caught some kind of illness and he’s been recovering ever since, losing 15-20 pounds in the process. Misi, the team’s second round Draft pick this year, has taken over his starting spot with consistent play and a smooth transition to the pro game. It was originally thought that Misi’s main objective would be as a situational pass-rusher – he was, after all, a defensive end in college – but he’s proven his worth as an every-down back with two sacks and a fumble recovery TD. In the meantime, he’s also Wally Pipp’d Alama-Francis.

4. Taylor Mays, S, 49ers: Mays so Wally Pipp’d former starter Michael Lewis that San Francisco released Lewis Monday, the day after Mays’ huge game against Atlanta. Mays had taken Lewis’ starting job already, and it sounds like Lewis asked for his release, but still, that’s pretty impressive for a rookie. Mays, in case you didn’t see it, had a phenomenal touchdown (both feet down!) after a punt block to give San Francisco a 14-0 lead. He also made 11 tackles.



3. John Carney, K, Saints: Carney, who will turn 65 later this year (I’m kidding, he’s 46), has returned once again to the NFL, and after making three kicks this past week, you have to wonder how much longer Garrett Hartley will stay on the roster – or why he’s on the roster at all at this point. Obviously, Carney isn’t the future kicker in this organization, and maybe the Saints are keeping Hartley around, because they’re hoping he can overcome what’s been a terrible start to the season for him. Otherwise, he’d already have been Pipp’d.

2. Ryan Torain, RB, Redskins:
Torain and Clinton Portis have split carries, but it seems that if this was the 100-meter dash at the Olympics, Torain would be Usain Bolt and Portis would be the other seven guys. Meaning Torain is pulling away and eventually will take Portis’ starting role. It could happen this week actually as Portis hurt his groin Sunday. Let me also briefly mention San Diego’s Mike Tolbert, who replaced first-round pick Ryan Mathews when he was injured and rushed for 255 combined yards the past three games (including a 100-yard performance Sunday when Mathews was in the game). But coach Norv Turner says he’s committed to keeping Mathews as the starter, so Tolbert doesn’t fit on this list all that well.

1. Peyton Hillis, RB, Browns: It was supposed to be Montario Hardesty and Jerome Harrison running the ball in Cleveland. Hillis – who was traded from Denver in the Brady Quinn deal this past offseason – was supposed to be just an afterthought. Baltimore’s Terrell Suggs had never heard of the guy until he ripped off 180 total yards (144 on the ground, the most Baltimore has allowed in five years) against the Ravens. With Hardesty out with a season-ending injury and with Harrison failing to make an impression on the Cleveland coaching staff, Hillis has taken advantage, tying the league high with four touchdowns and averaging 4.9 yards per carry. Like Gehrig, it appears that Hillis has no future plans to give up his starting spot.

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Posted on: October 3, 2010 11:37 am
Edited on: October 3, 2010 11:59 am
 

AFC Week 4 Inactives

Posted by Josh Katzowitz

First, the notable actives:

Baltimore RB Ray Rice will play today. As will Raiders WR Louis Murphy (that’s very good new for Oakland). Rookie NT Terrence Cody and DL Paul Kruger will make their 2010 debuts for the Ravens. Also, Denver's Tim Tebow is the No. 2 QB today, while Brady Quinn is No. 3. Jets RB Joe McKnight, who's been a big disappointment so far, is active for the first time. Bills CB Marcus Trufant is active as well. And in some great news for Seattle, LT Russell Okung will make his career debut. 

And now the inactives:

Darrelle Revis, CB, Jets:
He’s getting closer to returning, but against the Bills – where the only real receiving threat is Lee Evans – it’s probably unnecessary to play a Revis that’s still not 100 percent. Antonio Cromartie, who’s had mixed results as the No. 1 shutdown corner, should be OK vs. Evans.

Jonathan Fanene, DE, Bengals: This isn’t as big of a loss, considering Antwan Odom will play. Fanene has been bothered by a hamstring injury.

Cory Redding, DL, Ravens: He suffered a concussion last week, and he didn't pass his baseline tests this week. Therefore, he's inactive. It's unfortunate for Baltimore, considering the Ravens will try to slow down Pittsburgh RB Rashard Mendenhall, the fourth-leading rusher in the league.

Jake Delhomme, QB, Browns: Seneca Wallace will take over the QB spot for Cleveland for the second straight week as Delhomme tries to recover from an ankle injury. Delhomme was listed as questionable, but he was seen limping around the locker room this week. So this isn't a big surprise.

Knowshon Moreno, RB, Broncos: We know this would happen, and therefore, it falls to newly-acquired Laurence Maroney to move the ball. Last week, he struggled, gaining just 24 yards on 12 carries. QB Kyle Orton can't be expected to throw for 400-plus yards every week.

Andre' Goodman, CB, Broncos:
Bothered by a quadriceps injury, Goodman is inactive for the second-straight week. His replacement last week, Perrish Cox, gave up the TD pass to unknown Colts rookie Blair White.

Josh Wilson, CB, Ravens: Cary Williams, who missed the first two games of the season with a suspension, takes the place of Wilson. Special teams might have played a factor in this decision.

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Posted on: September 12, 2010 11:36 am
Edited on: September 12, 2010 12:18 pm
 

Today's key inactive players (AFC)

Posted by Josh Katzowitz

Channing Crowder, LB, Dolphins:
This, of course, is not a surprise, but Miami will miss him on the inside of its 3-4 defense. Look for Tim Dobbins to get his playing time, but he's also gotten plenty of work in the preseason with Crowder's absence.

Michael Bush, RB, Raiders:
Darren McFadden will start, and that actually might not be the worst thing in the world for QB Jason Campbell. You have to like McFadden's veteran leadership, and he might actually provide some relief for Campbell.

Julian Edelman, WR, Patriots:
He was questionable coming into today's game, and with no one sure how Wes Welker will perform for a full game, losing your No. 3 WR is a tough blow against a Bengals secondary that will be tough. But look for rookie TE Aaron Hernandez to benefit.

Brian Leonard, RB, Bengals:
Unless you watch Cincinnati every week, you won't understand how big a blow this is for the Bengals. You'll be hard-pressed to find a better RB in the league at converting on third downs.

Brady Quinn, QB, Broncos: He's the emergency No. 3 QB, and though this move is relatively insignificant, it just confirms that Tim Tebow is officially the backup to Kyle Orton.

Matt Leinart, QB, Texans:
You surprised?

Ikaika Alama-Francis , LB, Dolphins: This is a bit of a surprise, because he had been battling with rookie Koa Misi for the starting spot. There had been some concerns about Misi's ability to hold the corner on running plays.

Brian Brohm, QB, Bills:
After a preseason QB battle with Trent Edwards and Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brohm is officially the No. 3 behind starter Edwards and backup Fitzpatrick.

Demaryius Thomas, WR, Broncos: Thomas is battling a foot injury, but this is disappointing for the first of Denver's first-round picks. Thomas practiced all week, but apparently, he's not ready to play.

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