Tag:Jerry Stackhouse
Posted on: November 16, 2011 2:30 pm
Edited on: November 16, 2011 3:23 pm

For players, it's become too emotional

Posted by Royce Young

When Billy Hunter, Derek Fisher and 60 some-odd players stood behind a podium Monday afternoon after a players' meeting, most expected them to announce they'd be putting the league's proposal to a vote. Or at least, announce they're making a counter.

But that didn't happen. Instead, it was doomsday.

I think you, probably like me, were left wondering one thing: Why? What are the players thinking? The chances of them actually winning a lawsuit are slim. The chances of them recouping their losses in a new collective bargaining agreement are probably even slimmer. And yet instead of pushing forward and trying to push the pressure back on the league and owners to accept their revised deal, they decided to blow it up. They didn't even try and mask it. During their press conference they even said that. They wanted to completely detonate the current negotiations.

Again: Why?

Because players are emotional. This isn't a negotiation anymore. It's a fight. The owners have always tried to approach this as a business deal and the players met them on that -- until now. Consider this quote from Kevin Durant over the weekend:

“I know we get paid handsomely but we deserve to fight for something that’s right,” he told HoopsWorld. “We feel that they’re trying to strong-arm us and back us into a corner just to accept the deal. Of course they’re going to bluff and show the fans, try to put the fans against us like they’re the good guys and we’re the bad guys.

“I think getting what you deserve and fighting for something you believe is right is something all the players really care about,” he continued.  “Of course we enjoy the fans, we like the fans that come and support us.  They’re the reason why we’re playing this game, the reason why we continue to play this game but at some point you have to fight for what’s right and we can’t get bullied.”

That, says it all. In a game setting, if Nene throws a shoulder into Kendrick Perkins, Perkins is not only going to shove him back, but Durant and the rest of the team is going to back up their teammate. It's just their nature. That's what's happening here. David Stern just gave Derek Fisher an elbow. And here come his teammates.

Billy Hunter said on a podcast that this has become a "moral" issue for the players. At the time, it just seemed like talk to try and scare the league. But clearly it's not. This is an emotional thing. And players are extremely emotional. They live off it. It's what drives them. They're competitive, emotional and passionate. Prideful.

So why would we expect anything less from them now, especially after they were backed into a corner by David Stern's ultimatum? The players wanted to stand and fight instead of just taking their medicine from the rich guys running the league.

I think Jerry Stackhouse said it well while ripping Derek Fisher. "Players are emotional. Players get emotional," he said. "So no, I don't necessarily, particularly want Derek Fisher or any of the executive committee negotiating a contract for me."

I mean, Hunter actually called the hard salary cap a "blood issue," meaning, I guess, that the players would rather die than give in to that. That's what the owners are negotiating against. It's nothing really all that new to them as they've haggled over contracts and extensions with players for years, but now the players are collectively fighting. At least that's the appearance.

I understand taking a stand for what you think is right. A tip of the cap to that. But this isn't a fight against poverty or injustice to children or something. This is about business. A $4 billion one, in fact. One in which the employees are paid more than $5 million per year annually on average.

At some point, the players are going to have to approach it that way. I'm all for doing what you think is right. If the players were being greedy, they would've just accepted this deal, cashed their paychecks and forgot all about it. But instead, they're sacrificing for future generations of players. They're taking a hit not for themselves necessarily, but to one, set a new precedent that says the players won't be bullied and two, give the future players of the NBA a decent system to play in.

But this is a business decision. And sometimes, looking it as a moral dilemma isn't what's wise. Because in the end, players typically end up getting screwed in these situations. It's a bad idea to operate in this atmosphere running on emotion. You have to always keep your head and make sure every move makes sense not just in terms of saving face, but also actual dollars and cents. You can't let pride interrupt what's wise. That's a challenge every busisnessperson has to face on a daily basis.

This court battle is exactly what David Stern called it: It's a tactic. Nothing more. The players want a deal. The owners want a deal. Nobody wants to go to court and actually sue for damages. That's not the plan here, though if both sides remain stubborn, it will be. What both sides want is to get back to playing basketball. It's just all about playing cards right now and throwing out bets that hopefully force the other side to give a little. They very well may have pushed all-in there and could lose every chip they have, but they're not going to fold. They're going to go down in a blaze.

Why didn't the players just take the deal and move on? It's the best deal they'll probably get and despite it not being fair one bit, it might not matter. The reason is because that's not how they're bred. That's not what's in them. They aren't just going to give up. You back a professional athlete into a corner and tell him he has to lose and he's going to fight back. It's like Walter White in Breaking Bad. The players are trying to tell the league, "I am the one who knocks." It's all about grabbing the upper hand.

Don't wonder why the players didn't just take the NBA's offer. Because the reason should be obvious. It's just not what they do.
Posted on: November 2, 2011 10:37 pm

Jerry Stackhouse torches Derek Fisher, NBPA

Posted by Ben Gollivernba-lockout

National Basketball Players Association Derek Fisher is under attack. And it's only getting worse by the day.

After recent reports questioned his loyalty, his relationship with NBPA executive director Billy Hunter, and his leadership abilities, Fisher responded by sending a letter to the NBPA in an effort to mend fences on Monday and threatening to sue one media outlet on Tuesday for reporting that he might have been co-opted by NBA commissioner David Stern.

Those aggressive counterpunches appear to have done little to stem the criticism.

On Wednesday, 16-year NBA veteran Jerry Stackhouse, who most recently had a cup of coffee with the Miami Heat in 2010-2011, torched Fisher in a ESPN radio interview, delivering arguably the harshest critique of the union president to date. 

"Not to say anything against Derek Fisher, it's not that I don't think he's a great guy," Stackhouse said, "But I don't want him negotiating my contract. I want an agent who knows the lingo negotiating my contract. Derek Fisher, he doesn't negotiate his own contract. He has an agent. So why would I want him negotiating something even bigger than his contract? This [Collective Bargaining Agreement] is something more important to everybody." 

If that wasn't clear enough for you, Stackhouse went on to leave no doubt that he feels Fisher is outmatched in the current negotiation.

"David Stern, he's made this league what it is," Stackhouse said. "He's one of the greatest commissioners in sports. He's got that title, he's got the NBA at the place where it is because he's a shrewd businessman and knows how to work his way, play the media, play things up to get what he wants. We don't do that. Players are emotional. Players get emotional. So no, I don't necessarily, particularly want Derek Fisher or any of the executive committee negotiating a contract for me."

While Stackhouse sounded reluctant to outright accuse Fisher of disloyalty to his members, he clearly left the possibility open.

"I don't know [if Derek met with the NBA]," Stackhouse said. "I would hope not. I don't think Derek is  that kind of guy from what I've seen. But at the same time, he does have aspirations to possibly be a G.M. one day. If he can be the guy to bring the sides together in whatever way, maybe there would be an oppportunity for him to be a G.M. I'm not saying that he has an ulterior motive but the possibility lies there." 

If there was a silver lining for Fisher, it was that Stackhouse's frustration with the NBPA pre-dated Fisher's tenure as president, which began in 2006.

"Over the course of my career, the last 16 years, it seems like the executive committee is always making concessions," Stackhouse said. "More concessions, more concessions in each Collective Bargaining Agreement and this is no different. I don't think there's ever been a case where it seems like we have any leverage...  We need to have more people who are capable of going toe to toe with David Stern and I just don't think players who spend most of their time playing basketball and Billy Hunter are geared to do that."

Despite airing all of that frustration, Stackhouse said he didn't give much credence to reports that there is a developing rift between Fisher and Hunter.  

"I don't think they are necessarily at odds. But I think they are obviously are each feeling different pressures. I can imagine their voicemails are full all the time, text messages all the time about different items, from different players and different representatives... Obviously you're going to butt heads from time to time but I think for the most part both of those guys want to get a deal done."

But unity among the union's leadership isn't enough to convince Stackhouse the NBPA will deliver a good deal for its members.  

"I'm not sure they are going about it the right way, of actually getting a good deal done for the players," he said.
Posted on: November 23, 2010 11:58 am
Edited on: August 14, 2011 9:01 pm

Heat waive Jerry Stackhouse to sign Erick Dampier

The Miami Heat have reportedly waived Jerry Stackhouse to sign center Erick Dampier. Posted by Ben Golliver erick-dampier

Last night, CBSSports.com's Ken Berger reported that, in the wake of a long-term foot injury to forward Udonis Haslem, the Miami Heat would sign free agent center Erick Dampier to a one-year contract. Prior to that signing taking place, however, the Heat had to release a player because they were already at the NBA's roster maximum of 15 players.  Candidates for the waiving were thought to include veteran center Jamaal Magloire, who has played just 31 minutes so far this season, and rookie Dexter Pittman, who has yet to take the court. Conventional wisdom on Monday night had circled around the idea that a new big man would replace a previous big man. It appears that the Heat are going a different direction, however, as Chris Broussard reports on Twitter that Heat forward Jerry Stackhouse will be the odd man out.  Stackhouse was signed a month ago to the day to help fill in for the absence of injured forward Mike Miller, who is also out for an extended period of time this season with a finger injury. He had appeared in just seven games for the Heat so far this year, playing a combined 50 minutes and averaging 1.7 points, 1.0 rebounds and .4 assists. This is whack-a-mole roster management at its finest, as the Heat have now unplugged one hole on the wing to plug another in the middle. With James Jones and Eddie House both making contributions, and with perimeter mainstays LeBron James and Dwyane Wade logging heavy minutes, the decision to sacrifice Stackhouse to shore up the middle makes sense.   The Heat are currently 17th in the league in overall rebound rate and need all the help they can get, even from a marginal veteran like Dampier. The Heat now have five centers on their roster: Dampier, Magloire, Pittman, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, and Joel Anthony. For more, check out Matt Moore's takedown of the Dampier signing.
Posted on: October 25, 2010 11:29 am
Edited on: October 25, 2010 11:33 am

Heat make final cuts to make room for Stackhouse

Posted by Royce Young

The unfortunate injury to Mike Miller set off a chain of events for the Miami Heat that led them to cutting a player they didn't expect to let go. After signing Jerry Stackhouse to fill in for Miller while he recovers from thumb surgery, the Heat needed to trim their roster by two.

And the last guys to get the axe are Patrick Beverley and Da'Sean Butler. So finally, we have our final standing Heat roster. Not that the end of the bench is all that important because who cares about Dexter Pittman, but with the Heat, the construction of this fascinating roster kind of makes it news. At last, we've got the 15 players that make up one of the most interesting rosters in NBA history. So what that we really only care about three of them. Every guy has a job and a place on the team.

Butler was expected to make the team and even Erik Spoelstra hinted Butler would be the 15th man, but because Miami was forced to cut an extra, Butler was the last to go. It's unfortunate for the rookie because otherwise he'd be on the team, but now the second round pick is looking for work. Jamaal Magloire wasn't a guarantee either with all the frontcourt players the Heat stockpiled, but obviously he's on the roster. For now, at least.

With Stackhouse though, when he returns there's no guarantee the Heat will keep him. His contract is non-guaranteed and if Miami isn't liking his contribution, they might release him and go fish out Butler from wherever he's at. That is, if he's available. Both Butler and Beverley are nice player and might not spend much time on the market before someone scoops them up.
Posted on: October 23, 2010 3:22 pm
Edited on: August 14, 2011 8:01 pm

Miami Heat sign Jerry Stackhouse

The Miami Heat have signed free agent guard Jerry Stackhouse. Posted by Ben Golliverjerry-stackhouse The Miami Heat announced on Twitter Saturday that the team has signed veteran guard Jerry Stackhouse, as expected. Heat star guard Dwyane Wade welcomed Stackhouse to Miami on Twitter, writing, "Welcome Jerry Stackhouse to the Miami family everyone. He is now apart of us. Shhhh dont bring up 06." The tweet is a reference to Wade's Heat facing off against Stackhouse and the Dallas Mavericks in the 2006 NBA Finals, which the Heat won. Stackhouse, 35, is running on fumes, but the Heat had to pull the trigger after losing forward Mike Miller for months with a finger injury. This year's Basketball Prospectus cautions not to expect too much from Stackhouse.
Jerry Stackhouse has entered the Roger Clemens phase of his career, where he sits out training camp and the early part of the season, waiting until some team that needs an infusion of offense comes calling ... He was useful in spurts for Scott Skiles in Milwaukee last season and played some important minutes. When you add it all up, however, he was merely filling space. If Stackhouse wants to play in the NBA this season, he probably will, but fans of whichever team he ends up with shouldn’t expect much.

The Heat are an ideal landing place for a player in Stackhouse's situation. Where better for an aging player to hide out when he no longer has the physical skills to dominate? Long, athletic players like Wade, LeBron James, and Chris Bosh will provide cover for him at every turn. It's fair to call this a marriage of convenience for both parties but it comes at a small financial price and the timing is right for Miami, who needed to quickly plug a hole as they prepare to open the season Tuesday in Boston. With the signing, Miami's roster stands at 17 players. Two will need to be cut or traded prior to Monday's deadline for teams to set their 15 man rosters. Guard Patrick Beverley and forward Da'Sean Butler are the most likely Heat players to be released.
Posted on: October 22, 2010 6:26 pm
Edited on: October 22, 2010 6:29 pm

Miller out til Jan; Heat looking at Stackhouse?

Posted by Royce Young

Things are getting tough for the Heat before they're even getting started. For shame for the NBA's new Mr. Bad Guy.

Mike Miller who outside of the Big 3 is considered maybe team's most important role-playing piece, will be out potentially close to half the season. Miller will be in a cast for at least four weeks and then he'll move to a split after that missing multiple months. Miller had a 45-minute surgery to repair a torn ligament and fracture in his thumb on his shooting hand.

So that's not good for the Heat. Miller was intended to be the Heat's top option off the bench and provide outside shooting and scoring to supplement the trio of stars. Now the Heat will turn to players like Eddie House and James Jones to pick up that slack.

But potentially the Heat are exploring options with another veteran scorer. Jerry Stackhouse didn't make the first cut when veterans flooded to Pat Riley's doorstep for a chance to latch on with the Heat, but Winderman reports there are legs to Stackhouse heading to South Beach.

Last season Stackhouse played for the Milwaukee Bucks, contributing fairly well to their unexpected playoff run. As of now, he's unemployed. He's 35 years old and a player that isn't anything more than a 15 or 20-minute a game role player.

The Heat have recently trimmed their roster to 16, meaning they still have one more cut to go before being legal for Tuesday's opener against Boston. But if they signed Stackhouse, two players would likely have to go. Here's where Kenny Hasbrouck calls Pat Riley and swears to him he can handle the load. Otherwise, he's probably the one getting the axe, along with one other (Patrick Beverley or Da'Sean Butler?)

It's been an interesting preseason for the league's most talked about team. Before this, there haven't been any major injuries, but things have run far from smoothly for the Heat. Adversity often raises its head in the NBA and the great teams always respond. Miller's not the biggest loss in the world but the Heat are a little less awesome than they were yesterday.
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