Posted on: February 18, 2011 12:49 pm
Edited on: February 18, 2011 2:32 pm
Report says a tentative Nets-Melo deal is in place, but as always, Melo still has to agree to extension which he has resisted for six months.
Posted by Matt Moore
The Bergen Record is reporting a tentative deal is in place for Carmelo Anthony to become a Net, pending Anthony's agreement to an extension -- a piece of paper that has become the most ballyhooed document outside of Congress.
The deal is the same Ken Berger reported on Thursday evening and we discussed Thursday afternoon , reported now by the Record , ESPN , and Yahoo!. It features the Nuggets getting Devin Harris, Derrick Favors and Ben Uzoh, with a third team taking on Troy Murphy. No one's figured out a third team to take Murphy, so either the deal isn't as tentatively "done" as the Record is reporting or the teams are agreeing to a deal that assumes something they can't really count on. Again, no surprises there, considering how botched this process has been from the beginning.
So again, the ball is in Melo's court.
Berger reported early Thursday that no talks have been scheduled between Melo and Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov nor with Knicks owner James Dolan. That could change between now and Thursday's media availability, for which we'll have full coverage.
For Prokhorov to take this meeting is in and of itself revealing of his attitudes as an owner. Apparently enough was not enough. Despite Masai Ujiri playing with the Nets for up to six weeks, agreeing to deals then backtracking and wanting more, the Russian mogul is about to get in bed with Denver again, only this time he's giving up the largest collection of assets yet. It may be the best thing for his business, but you have to wonder how he'd feel about it were he to step back and realize how badly he's been jerked around so far, assuming these reports are accurate.
Anthony, however, isn't running into this arrangement with open arms. He's having to be convinced to meet with the owner of a National Basketball Association team in a major market that's looking to build a championship around him. If he's convinced, it won't be his whole self that is convinced -- it'll simply be an understanding that this is a compromise that features two of his goals: to play in a bigger market and to get the extension before the CBA is renegotiated.
And what will be left to help him after the Nets trade away nearly a third of their team? Billups, Vujacic, Humphries and Lopez, with Morrow, Farmar, Outlaw and Stephen Graham off the bench. GET EXCITED, NEW JERSEY. For the remaining year you have before the team bolts to Brooklyn.
This situation is as perplexing as ever, and should it fall through, Donnie Walsh may need oxygen because he'll be laughing so hard.
Posted on: February 17, 2011 8:29 pm
Edited on: February 17, 2011 8:34 pm
Conflicting reports surface regarding possible revived Nets-Nuggets talks for Carmelo Anthony.
Posted by Matt Moore
I could have swore we were just here. Yahoo! Sports is reporting that the New Jersey Nets are in "advanced talks" in a huge nine-player, four-pick deal that would shake out as the following:
New Jersey Nets receive:
Denver Nuggets receive:
And... four first-round picks.
That is an absurd lump of assets for one player, and if true, shows just how desperate the Nets are to contend immediately. They're giving up Derrick Favors and Harris, along with the expiring contract of Troy Murphy, basically to get Melo and Billups. And that's before you factor in giving up 4 first-rounders. Those picks are likely spread out over the 2011 through 2014 draft (the Nets own the Warriors 2011 pick, lottery protected, as well as their 2012, and the Rockets' 2012 picks), but that's a massive amount of first-rounders to surrender, even for an All-Star, before we look at the value of Harris and Favors.
However, a spokesperson for Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov Thursday reasserted to the AP that the owner "has not changed his mind" since cutting off talks with the Nuggets over the last deal when the Nets were asking for three first-rounders. ESPN reported Thursday that the Nets had entered into talks again, and that it was Prokhorov's insistence that the Nets be the ones to open the dialogue again.
So either Prokhorov's spokesperson is lying or not up to speed, and Prokhorov decided it was fine to deal with Denver if they opened talks, even if it meant talking about an even higher price tag than the last one Prokhorov walked away from, or the Nuggets are trying to apply pressure on New York by fabricating talks with the New Jersey Nets.
So this is fun.
Expect things to continue on this track through the weekend and possibly all the way to the deadline. The Melo story has just hit a whole other gear of crazy.
Posted on: February 1, 2011 6:33 pm
Edited on: February 1, 2011 7:11 pm
The NBA has announced the rosters for it's annual rookie vs. sophomore challenge game during All-Star weekend. Posted by Ben Golliver.
It seems like we say this every year, but, on paper, the Sophomores are going to absolutely destroy the Rookies in this year's Rookie Challenge. The NBA released the rosters for the two teams on Tuesday, and the Sophomores tout reigning Rookie of the Year Tyreke Evans, along with his stiff competition for that award: Brandon Jenning and Stephen Curry.
The Rookies pair up the lock for 2011 Rookie of the Year, Blake Griffin, and John Wall, which is a match made in highlight heaven. Past those two, and perhaps DeMarcus Cousins and glue guy Landry Fields, the talent level tails off pretty hard, pretty fast.
Here's the full list of names, via the NBA.
Sacramento Kings guard Tyreke Evans, the reigning T-Mobile Rookie of the Year, and Los Angeles Clippers rookie forward Blake Griffin, the only player in the NBA averaging at least 20 points, 12 rebounds and three assists, lead a list of 18 players selected for the 2011 T-Mobile Rookie Challenge & Youth Jam to be held on Friday, Feb. 18, in Los Angeles during NBA All-Star 2011.
The participants in the T-Mobile Rookie Challenge & Youth Jam were selected by the NBA’s assistant coaches, with each team submitting one ballot.While this is barely worth noting because we're talking about an exhibition game, Blair, Gibson, Ibaka and Matthews all boast post-season experience and combine to possess a fair bit of basketball intelligence. And by that I mean: they'll play harder than most, but when Blake Griffin is about to make one of his posters they'll be savvy enough to get out of the way.
One other footnote: DeRozan, Ibaka and Griffin will all be in the Slam Dunk contest as well.
I can't wait for this game. There's a distinct possibility that Wall could throw Griffin an alley-oop from the far baseline, setting a Guiness record in the process.
Posted on: January 19, 2011 9:17 pm
Edited on: January 19, 2011 9:18 pm
New Jersey Nets forward Troy Murphy has requested a trade according to Nets GM Billy King. Posted by Ben Golliver.
It's one of the oldest and best tricks in the book: Wait until there's really big bad news that you're forced to deliver, and then provide all the rest of the bad news along with it. Even young children are masters of this tactic: Waiting to reveal a poor grade on a test until after their parents are already ticked off that they threw a rock through a window, for example.
Such is life for the New Jersey Nets, who early Wednesday withdrew from the Carmelo Anthony trade negotiations, removing any short-team hope that their fanbase had for salvaging another dreary season. Nearly lost, but not quite, in the storm of Anthony news, was a Sports Illustrated report that Nets GM Billy King publicly acknowledged that disgruntled power forward Troy Murphy has requested a trade.
Troy Murphy has requested a trade, Nets GM Billy King says. Murphy will be allowed to stay away from the team until they can deal him. King also confirmed the obvious at his press conference: Any deal with Detroit is now dead, too.The proposed trade with the Pistons would have sent Murphy to Detroit for guard Richard Hamilton, a precursor to the trade with Denver that would have landed Anthony in New Jersey. As Hamilton's contract is fully guaranteed through the end of next season and his production has fallen off considerably, New Jersey has no reason to take on his contract now that they're set to enter a full-scale rebuild without Anthony in the picture.
2010-2011 has been a tough year for Murphy, as a back injury limited him early on and he never seemed to appeal to new Nets coach Avery Johnson. He hasn't started since Nov. 9 and hasn't appeared in a game since Jan. 7. An offensively-skilled and versatile stretch forward acquired from the Indiana Pacers in a trade that sent Courtney Lee to Houston, Murphy may or may not get his trade wish granted.
With their season already in ruins, whether or not Murphy is content and/or productive is a non-factor for the Nets, simplifying this situation significantly. New Jersey doesn't need to worry about him being a distraction or not playing hard. Cast him away. Who cares. Nobody. Every minute he doesn't play is another minute for rookie forward and top 2010 draft pick Derrick Favors.
The worst case scenario for New Jersey with Murphy has always been to simply allow his expiring contract run out at the end of this season. Murphy's $11.97 million cap number -- he's the team's highest-paid player -- would come off this summer, giving New Jersey plenty of room to pursue a top-tier free agent or multiple targets.
The pre-deadline market for expiring contracts is unclear right now, as everyone was sitting around and waiting for the Anthony trade to kickoff the player movement season. If New Jersey can dump Murphy for a rotation player, they would certainly do it, but simply waiting out the duration of his deal would also have its advantages. Unlike with Anthony, the Nets hold all the cards here. Not that they're great cards to hold, but it's a microscopic consolation after a tough day.
Posted on: January 11, 2011 10:59 pm
Edited on: January 11, 2011 11:01 pm
Report: Nuggets angling for Nicolas Batum in the event Melo is traded as part of rebuilding effort.
Posted by Matt Moore
According to a report we mentioned earlier, the Denver Nuggets' angle in all this Carmelo-Anthony-trade in-and-out talk is to create a combination of Nicolas Batum and Derrick Favors. Following up on something Ken Berger of CBSSports.com reported last week, ESPN reports that Batum is a top target for Masai Ujiri and the Nuggets. Several teams have inquired of Batum's availability, but the Nuggets would have a good chance at him, provided they can get this never-ending deal with New Jersey done.
Basically, it goes down like this. Denver trades Melo in the whole complicated three-way to New Jersey for Favors, Devin Harris, and picks. Since Denver already has Ty Lawson, whom they love with all their little hearts, they then trade Harris to the Blazers who have been trying to find a young guard upgrade over Andre Miller for the past century. They send Harris and a pick in order to get Batum. Then the Nuggets have their pick, a Nets future pick, Nicolas Batum, and Derrick Favors along with Ty Lawson and a bunch of older, often-injured bigs, but that too is solvable (starting with Kenyon Martin's huge expiring contract).
With Batum the Nuggets would get a young, talented versatility player who can shoot from the outside, has a lot of athleticism, and most importantly, is a natural defender. Those are exceptionally rare in this league. Alongside Lawson with Favors low, the Nuggets would have a young core to build around.
The question is whether Denver will actually ever pull the trigger on the first deal with New Jersey to facilitate a trade with Portland. So far, Denver's shown nothing but a penchant for watching the pitches pass them by.
Posted on: January 9, 2011 5:34 pm
Edited on: January 9, 2011 8:34 pm
The Denver Nuggets, Detroit Pistons, and New Jersey Nets are reportedly advancing on a three-team that would include Nuggets All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony. Posted by Ben Golliver.
Multiple outlets are reporting Sunday that a three-team trade scenario involving the Denver Nuggets, New Jersey Nets and Detroit Pistons that would send All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony to the New Jersey Nets is edging closer to fruition. The initial trade talks were discussed here on Saturday.
Yahoo! Sports reported that talks were "progressing" and the Bergen Record reported that "things definitely are moving forward" and that a trade could take place "within the next 48 hours." Sports Illustrated added later Sunday that the deal is "as close as it's ever been.
ESPNNY.com recapped the trade specifics as they stood later Sunday.
A three-team deal involving the Detroit Pistons that would include at least 15 players -- with Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups winding up in New Jersey with Anthony -- could be completed as soon as this week, sources said.
The primary elements of the scenario currently on the table, sources said, call for New Jersey to acquire Anthony, Billups and Hamilton; Denver to land Devin Harris, Derrick Favors, Anthony Morrow and at least two first-round picks; and Detroit to acquire Troy Murphy and Johan Petro.This version is slightly tweaked from the original trade scenario laid out on Saturday.
The Nets would send Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and at least two first-round picks to Denver and Troy Murphy and his expiring contract to the Pistons. On top of that, ESPN.com reports the Pistons would have to take on Johan Petro's contract as well as send the Nets a first-round pick.
The Nets would of course get Anthony, but also a couple of surprise pieces. In addition to Carmelo, New Jersey would bring in Chauncey Billups from Denver and Richard Hamilton from Detroit. The Pistons have been shopping Hamilton and his remaining two-year, $25 million contract pretty hard this season.Of every Carmelo Anthony trade proposal to hit the internet, this version is by far the most plausible, and it represents about as close to a win/win/win as you're going to find when a superstar of this magnitude trades teams. Here's a brief rundown.
For Denver, they get exactly what we've been saying they should want all along in an Anthony deal: younger talent, draft picks and some salary cap flexibility by moving Billups' contract.
For New Jersey, they get Anthony at a fairly reasonable price and get to surround him with another solid starting piece (Hamilton), and also potentially undo one of the worst signings of the 2010 summer, Johan Petro.
For Detroit, they get great value in dumping the unhappy Hamilton and saving big-time dollars down the road, and would get to enjoy the financial relief provided by Murphy's large expiring contract at the end of the season.
This one likely comes down to the last big hurdle: Whether Anthony will agree to sign a contract extension with the Nets, and whether he will agree to it now or decide he wants to wait longer. Yahoo! Sports reports that it "seems unlikely" Anthony wouldn't agree to a three-year contract extension with New Jersey now that Hamilton is in play, but Anthony has held his cards very close to his vest, so it's difficult to be sure.
UPDATE 8:32 p.m. ET: Chris Mannix of SI reports that New Jersey is "convinced" Melo will sign the extension. Meanwhile Yahoo! Sports reports the following players are also involved in the deal, in addition to those previously discussed: Ben Uzoh, Stephen Graham, and Quinton Ross will go to Denver in the proposed deal, while Anthony Carter and Shelden Williams will go to New Jersey. Detroit is still only slated to get Troy Murphy and the point of contention that's holding the deal up: Johan Petro.
Posted on: January 7, 2011 9:33 pm
Edited on: January 7, 2011 10:17 pm
Posted by Royce Young
Just over 24 hours ago, we told you about how the Nuggets were possibly involving the Cleveland Cavaliers in a three-way deal that would send Carmelo Anthony to New Jersey. But as the world turns with this Carmelo crap, things have changed. I'm telling you, this is never going to end.
According to The Bergen Record, the Nets are in talks with of course the Nuggets, but have also involved the Detroit Pistons. Let me warn you, this gets a little complicated. But reportedly, the Nets would send Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and at least two first-round picks to Denver and Troy Murphy and his expiring contract to the Pistons. On top of that, ESPN.com reports the Pistons would have to take on Johan Petro's contract as well as send the Nets a first-round pick.
The Nets would of course get Anthony, but also a couple of surprise pieces. In addition to Carmelo, New Jersey would bring in Chauncey Billups from Denver and Richard Hamilton from Detroit. The Pistons have been shopping Hamilton and his remaining two-year, $25 million contract pretty hard this season.
The report says that more players would be involved to make the salaries line up, but this is just one of the many, many scenarios New Jersey is pitching. Also, reportedly the Nets are trying to trade straight up with Denver for Carmelo.
As Ken Berger has reported, the Nets have had an offer of Favors, Murphy and first-round picks on the table for a while. But as Berger has said, that type of trade might not happen until closer to the Feb. 24 trade deadline. The Nuggets aren't psyched about paying Murphy's salary right now, but might warm up to it when less is owed to him.
At first glance, this is a pretty tremendous deal for New Jersey if it were to happen. To unload Murphy, plus get Anthony, Billups and Hamilton? The question wouldn't be if this were a good deal for the Nets, it would be, "Are these guys contenders now?" Billups, Hamilton, Carmelo, Kris Humphries and Brook Lopez -- that's a pretty darn good starting five, is it not?
The Pistons move Hamilton -- something they desperately want to do -- and get a nice expiring deal in return. The Nuggets probably feel like they could've had more, but Harris, Favors and picks isn't bad at all. I'm not sure they're going to do much better than that.
However, Chris Broussard of ESPN.com tweeted that while the deal has been discussed, it's not happening in its current form. The Pistons aren't willing to give up Hamilton and a first-rounder for Murphy and Petro. And nor should they be. Pretty cruddy deal on their end.
Again, this is just the latest scenario that's surfaced that would move Anthony out of Denver. It doesn't mean this is The Trade that will happen or that in 24 hours we'll be hearing this went official. But it's clear the Nets are motivated to make a deal happen. They don't want to hang around until the deadline. They want to make this move now. And they're willing to call just about any and every team out there to get them involved to make it happen.
Posted on: November 19, 2010 12:26 pm
Edited on: August 14, 2011 8:54 pm
New Jersey Nets forward Troy Murphy looks headed for the trading block. Posted by Ben Golliver.
When the New Jersey Nets traded for former Indiana Pacers power forward Troy Murphy this summer, there wasn't any preconceived notions about his future with the team. Carrying a massive expiring contract and still a productive player offensively, Murphy, on paper, was an ideal stop gap solution for the Nets as they waited for 2010 first round pick Derrick Favors to develop into the monster he is destined to become.
Well, it hasn't worked out quite like that, because Murphy has been limited by injuries and Kris Humphries has emerged in the interim to take his minutes. Less than a month into the season, the Star-Ledger reports that Murphy is headed back for the trading block.
Troy Murphy, the Sparta-bred Delbarton grad who was acquired by the Nets over the summer, will “probably’’ be traded this season, according to a person with knowledge of the team’s thinking.
But in the last week, he has lost his starting job to Kris Humphries, who first started Nov. 10, when Murphy sat out a game in Cleveland because of a sore foot. Humphries played well that night, and coach Avery Johnson has kept him in the starting lineup for four straight games.So what could the Nets get for Murphy? It's hard to say, as NBA executives are keen to note that expiring contracts like Murphy's don't always command the high value that public perception gives them. If I'm New Jersey, I'm targeting backcourt help, particularly a traditional bigger-bodied wing scorer. The Nets currently rank near the bottom of the league in offensive efficiency so that kind of a piece would be invaluable. The only question is, then, would be how bad of a salary are the Nets willing to take on in return for Murphy?