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Posted on: April 6, 2011 5:14 pm

Bulls fan spit at... Grant Hill?

Posted by Royce Young

I really hate when people indict an entire fanbase based off the actions of an isolated idiot or two. Like saying "Dodger fans are the worst!" just because a couple complete morons jumped a Giants fan.

But it's sort of hard to defend Bulls fans for this one. Spitting at people is low, but spitting at Grant Hill? That's bad. Via the Arizona Republic:

As Hill left the floor after the game, he was held back from a fan who he said cursed and spit at him.

“He said some profanity and spit in my direction,” Hill said. “I’m not going to let somebody spit at me. He knew he did wrong because he took off running.”

Hill was held back by security, who caught the fan.

“I just saw the anger in his face,” (Vince) Carter said. “When you see Grant like that, you know something’s up. Grant doesn’t say anything to anybody. He competes and does his job.”

And no, the Bulls fan wasn't Jalen Rose. They made up, remember? I don't know what posseses people to forget these are sports and not really that important, but of all people, Grant Hill? Really? Hasn't the guy won the Sportsmanship Award like five times?

Again, one idiot an entire fanbase does not make, but if you're going to act like a total moron to a visiting player, have it be someone other than Grant Hill at least. Because that makes you look even worse than normal.
Category: NBA
Posted on: March 23, 2011 2:27 am

Lakers need three OTs to put away the pesky Suns

Posted by Royce Young

You want March Madness, have you some March Madness.

The Lakers and Suns played an instant classic Tuesday night with the game going to three extra frames before Los Angeles finally prevailed, 139-137. Here's how wild this one was: Eventually it took a Ron Artest takeover in the third overtime for this thing to go to bed.

It was the type of game where it appeared to be over multiple times, but because of the Suns' ability to knock down 3s and the Lakers having Kobe Bryant, neither team would lay down. Finally the Suns ran out of gas after Artest hit a tough jumper in the lane to put the Lakers up five with a minute to go. Channing Frye drained a 3 to get it back to two, but Kobe hit a runner with 14 seconds left to put L.A. back up four. The Suns wasted too much time before Vince Carter finally hit a layup with 1.2 seconds left and all the Lakers had to do was get the ball in.

But that's just how it ended. How we got there is the interesting part.

In regulation, Grant Hill hit a corner 3 to tie the game at 112-112. Kobe missed a decent look to win and Phoenix snared the rebound. With a chance to win at the buzzer and save us all an extra hour, Carter missed wide on a 3 at the horn. On to overtime.

The Lakers looked to have it locked up leading by three and after a missed trey, Steve Nash tracked down the rebound and kicked back to Frye who was fouled on a desperation 3 by Lamar Odom. Naturally Frye drained all three free throws and we were off to another five minutes.

Phoenix had its chance in the second OT. Nash made an absolutely unreal play passing the ball behind his back as he was falling of out bounds to Marcin Gortat who steamrolled down the lane, eventually kicking to a wide open Frye who drained a 3 to put the Suns up 130-128 with 50 seconds left. The Suns got a stop, but Nash was unable to convert. The Lakers ended up with Pau Gasol knocking down a pair of free throws to knot the game at 130-130 and send us to a third overtime.

The Suns scored first and the Lakers started the third OT frame 0-6 from the field before Kobe eventually drained a deep ball. But maybe the biggest play came right before it as Grant Hill, who had defended Kobe brilliantly, picked up back-to-back which happened to be his fifth and sixth. Kobe immediately dropped the 3 to put L.A. up 133-132. Artest came up with a steal and a surprising lefty dunk, then hit the jumper that basically sealed it.

It was, quite the game.

A lot was on the line for Phoenix who are battling for eighth in the West while the Lakers are still trying to lock up the No. 2 seed. The Suns obviously need every game they're in and this one was no exception. They're three games back of the Grizzlies right now and with time running low on this season, each game is at the highest importance. Shame is, this triple-overtime game may cost them two, as they play Wednesday night at home versus the Raptors. Obviously still winnable, but it'll be interesting to see how the old bodies of Nash and Hill respond to play for three-plus hours.

Some games just don't die. Especially when you have a team as resiliant and hungry as the Suns against a team as talented and smart as the Lakers. What's funny, is that the only reason we got to three overtimes is because the Lakers blew a 15-point lead in the second half. The Suns got hot from 3, the Laker offense went cold (specifically the second unit) and Phoenix executed and hung in there. It's a bummer for the Suns to put that much in only to lose, but it was quite the effort and truly a terrific game.

Some stats from this one:
  • Channing Frye played a game-high 57 minutes. He scored 32 points and had 14 rebounds.
  • Coming off the bench, Marcin Gortat played 53 minutes and had 24 points and 16 rebounds.
  • The Lakers took 120 shots. Phoenix attempted 106.
  • The upset of the night? Kobe played 48 minutes and three overtimes yet somehow still only took 31 shots. He scored 42 points though and had 12 rebounds and nine assists to go with it.
  • Steve Nash finished with 20 assists and 19 points.
  • Impressive stat:The Lakers and Suns combined for just 22 turnovers in a triple-overtime game. That's crazy.
  • Opposite of impressive: In a game that went to three OTs and was that close, Vince Carter was still somehow a -20.
  • Derek Fisher finished with just two points on 0-7 shooting in 46 minutes.
  • Robin Lopez, who started the game at center for Phoenix, played only 10 minutes.
  • This was only second-ever triple-OT game at home in Los Angeles Lakers history. Other one came in February 1969.
Posted on: March 21, 2011 10:15 am
Edited on: March 21, 2011 10:17 am

Rose says Duke comments 'taken out of context'

Jalen Rose says his critical remarks about Duke University were taken out of context. Posted by Ben Golliver. jalen-rose

In this week's edition of the "story that won't go away", former University of Michigan basketball player and current NBA television analyst Jalen Rose has written a Wall Street Editorial in response to the criticism he received for making statements critical of Duke University in a recent documentary.

In case you've been living in a bunker for the last two weeks, Rose said in a documentary about Michigan's Fab 5 that he thought Duke's players were "Uncle Toms" when he was a teenager. 

That led former Duke basketball player Grant Hill, who was called a "bitch" in the movie, to respond in a New York Times editorial by calling the movie was "a sad and somewhat pathetic turn of events." Hill didn't, however, acknowledge that Rose was speaking about his past feelings rather than his current feelings. Former Duke player Elton Brand also weighed in, calling Rose's comments "ignorant" although he appeared to realize that Rose was speaking about his past feelings.

In his Wall Street Journal editorial, Rose said that his comments about Duke "were completely taken out of context", although he didn't specify by whom or call out Hill by name.
Addressing the elephant in the room, comments from the documentary regarding Duke University were completely taken out of context. I respect the success of Duke’s program and stated this was my opinion as a teenager growing up in the inner city of Detroit. I also acknowledged that Grant Hill had something I wanted growing up – a successful family. It’s a bit disappointing some people insinuated I think black people from successful families are Uncle Toms. What made the documentary must-see TV is the fact we showed brutal honesty and addressed every topic head on and without reservation.
This clarification wasn't really necessary for those who paid attention to what Rose said and actually watched the documentary, but after this story took hold and picked up sensationalistic steam Rose likely felt that he had no choice.

I'm not sure what the lesson here is except that Rose demonstrated that he is much more equipped to get his message out now as a media professional than he was 20 years ago as a young player. Deadspin summarized it nicely by concluding that the entire series of events simply proves that Rose is "part of the system now." On some level, that represents progress.
Category: NBA
Posted on: March 17, 2011 3:59 pm

Brand: Jalen Rose made 'ignorant' Duke comments

Philadelphia 76ers forward Elton Brandon calls Jalen Rose's comments about Duke "ignorant". Posted by Ben Golliver. elton-brand-duke

As noted on Wednesday, Jalen Rose and his former University of Michigan teammates made some disparaging comments about Duke University and its African-American plays in a recent documentary about the Fab 5. Rose, who was speaking about his feelings at the time he was in college, referred to Grant Hill and Duke's other black players as "Uncle Toms" and Rose's teammate, Jimmy King, called Hill a "bitch." 

Hill responded in a New York Times editorial saying that the comments were "sad and somewhat pathetic."

Hill's fellow former Dukie, Elton Brand of the Philadelphia 76ers, also responded on Wednesday, telling that he thought Rose's comments were "ignorant."
"You know, I just know that it sounded kind of ignorant, but at that time he's 17 years old, that's how a lot of young adults are. I know people from where I was from felt the same way, you know? But I knew it wasn't true and guys using those words are kind of harsh: sellout or Uncle Tom. Just because their parents stay together or worked hard? That doesn't make sense."
"It was a difference in cultures. Duke was a prestigious school and Michigan, well it's pretty academically sound itself, so, you know what I mean? But I think that was just the rivalry, he might have said that on the court to those guys and he definitely felt that way and if that's his opinion, then that's how he felt."'s Ken Berger pointed out nicely that the one failing of Hill's editorial was to distinguish between Rose's thoughts as a 17-year-old kid and Rose's comments as an adult. Indeed, Rose took to Twitter on Wednesday to write, "For those MOANING about how something or someone was portrayed in the doc note that it was FRAMED from 1991-1993 not 2011, quit crying."

Unlike Hill's editorial, Brand's comments show that he understands that Rose was speaking about the past, not the present. That's certainly helpful in bridging what has become a contentious debate when it probably shouldn't have been that big of a deal.
Posted on: March 16, 2011 3:30 pm
Edited on: March 16, 2011 3:37 pm

Grant Hill responds to 'Fab 5' comments

Posted by Matt Moore

ESPN's 30 for 30 documentary series premiered their episode on the Michigan "Fab 5" last weekend to critical acclaim. In it, producer and Fab Five member Jalen Rose spoke about Grant Hill and in doing so said that when he was in college he felt that black players who played for Duke were "Uncle Toms." 


That was supplemented by former Wolverine Jimmy King saying "I thought Grant Hill was a bitch ." 

Well, then...

So today Grant Hill responded with an editorial in the New York Times
My mother always says, “You can live without Chaucer and you can live without calculus, but you cannot make it in the wide, wide world without common sense.” As we get older, we understand the importance of these words. Adulthood is nothing but a series of choices: you can say yes or no, but you cannot avoid saying one or the other. In the end, those who are successful are those who adjust and adapt to the decisions they have made and make the best of them.

I caution my fabulous five friends to avoid stereotyping me and others they do not know in much the same way so many people stereotyped them back then for their appearance and swagger. I wish for you the restoration of the bond that made you friends, brothers and icons.

I am proud of my family. I am proud of my Duke championships and all my Duke teammates. And, I am proud I never lost a game against the Fab Five.
via Grant Hill's Response to Jalen Rose - .

This issue has sparked conversations about race, the perceptions of collegiate programs at both Duke and Michigan, the imtemperance of youth, and some bad Jay-Z jokes . This blog is not the place for it, nor is the author qualified to speak on the matter. But at least the discussion is being held. Some interesting notes:
  • Hill notes that Jalen Rose contacted him via Twitter before the airing of the documentary to apologize. 
  • Rose's comments were in relation to how he felt in college, and he has clarified since that he does not feel that way now, but Hill's commentary is held as if the perceptions are long-standing.
Category: NBA
Posted on: January 5, 2011 11:57 am
Edited on: January 5, 2011 12:03 pm

Grant Hill compares '96 free agents to '10 class

Suns star Grant Hill talks about the differences between the 1996 free agency class and the 2010 class and the difference in labor situations of 1998 and 2011. 
Posted by Matt Moore

Grant Hill has been around and has seen a lot. That's what comes with 15 years of NBA experience. Part of that experience comes from his time dealing with the '96 free agency class, which featured Shaquille O'Neal, Alonzo Mourning, Gary Payton, and for about 45 seconds, Michael Jordan. Two years after that class, the NBA entered a lockout, in part due to the kinds of contracts that were signed in '96. 

He's also seen 2010, and the formation of the Miami Triad/Heatles/Whatever-cute-nicknam
e-you-want-to-use, Rudy Gay's $80 million bonanza, and Amar'e Stoudemire and Carlos Boozer also getting massive deals.  And in six months, that group of free agents will also likely face a lockout. 

As part of Ken Berger's interview with Hill in this week's installment of "In the Moment," Berger spoke with Hill about the comparisons between the two free agent classes and the differences between that labor dispute, and this one. 

"I remember back in 96, there was a lot of player movement, a lot of big contracts signed this summer. You didn't really get what happened this summer with LeBron, and DWade and those guys where it was like "Let's put together is kind of 'Dream Team' so to speak or something that may appear predetermined. I think the contracts at that point were getting high and it ended up becoming a concern that they would continue to escalate."

Hill also talks about the differences between the two and it's important to note that Hill takes a conciliatory line in the dispute, giving the owners reason to object to the current situation while maintaining the union's position that the current system works. It's a level-headed, reasonable position, the kind that's needed in order to avoid a lockout, the kind the owners have had no interest in adapting, instead blasting their boomboxes of recalcitrant objection to the current situation and threatening at every turn.  The situation needs leaders like Hill, and we can only help that both sides will follow his lead. 

It's also readily apparent that when his playing days are over, if they ever are, there should be a bidding war over Hill's services for television studio or announce work. Not because of his considerable star power and name recognition, but simply because it's more than evident that Hill will provide a stirring personality on screen for both analysis and personality. 

You'll see more of that personality on Friday when Ken Berger's full interview with Grant Hill is posted exclusively on 
Posted on: December 20, 2010 10:45 am

The Game Changer: Suns go short-handed

Posted by Royce Young

Each game is made up of elements which help formulate the outcome. Monday through Friday, we'll bring you the elements from the night before's games in our own specialized version of the game recaps. It's not everything that happened, but it's an insight into what lead to the results you'll see in the box scores. This is the Game Changer.


With about half the team on a plane to Orlando, the Suns were supposed to mail in their Sunday night game against the Thunder. They were playing a group on a five-game winning streak on their home floor. They were playing with only nine active players. They were playing with a Steve Nash that was still aching a bit from an earlier injury in the week.

Didn't matter though. The Suns took the floor and immediately played with some serious heart, beating the streaking Thunder 113-110 behind 30 points and 11 rebounds from Grant Hill.

Yes, you read that right. The 38-year-old Hill put together his best game since 2000, playing like it was 1997. He had everything working from the mid-range jumper to the dribble-drive. Watching Hill play one of his most complete games in a decade was something else to watch, especially considering his Suns had to have it.

Phoenix beat Oklahoma City with its old formula. Great offense all 48, sporadically good defense, quality rebounding and a stellar performance from Nash who went 7-8 from the field and dished out 10 assists.

Who needs Vince Carter and the rest of the Magic scraps? 

The Suns had fallen below .500 so Sunday's win was important for them on a number of levels. One, it likely made Steve Nash feel better. Two, it made the whole team feel better. Three, it showed that there's still some fight in them and four, that maybe they can get things turned around with the existing core and added talent.

It wasn't a must win by any means for the Suns, but it probably felt really, really good.


Grant Hill turned back the clock to 1997 with a 30-point, 11-rebound performance against Oklahoma City.
That's Hill's first 30-point, 10-rebound game since April 2000 with Detroit.

Paul Pierce registered a triple-double against Indiana, scoring 18 points, with 12 assists and 10 rebounds.

Will Bynum
checked in off the Pistons' bench and scored 21 points on 8-10 shooting and dished out nine assists.


Boston pushed its streak to 13 games with a dominant win over the Pacers Sunday. They play the 76ers next and really, if they can get by the Magic, there's a chance this thing could really stretch out. They play at Orlando (assuming the revamped Magic are still good), then have two road games against beatable teams (Indiana, Detroit). Then they play the Hornets at home, go to Toronto and then the Timberwolves at home before playing against the Spurs.

If the Celtics can win their Christmas day showdown with the Magic, the streak could potentially go to 20. Now of course this is the NBA and sometimes good teams lose to bad ones, but it at least sets up for them.


Jeff Green just missed a half court heave as time expired against the Suns that would've sent the game to overtime. It clanked off the front of the iron and the Suns survived. But a Thunder fan made a long distance toss earlier in the game, winning $20,000.

And this is the second fan in a little over a week to do such a thing. Robert Yanders made one first, and now Todd Lafferty joins him.


What's going on with the Hawks? They dropped another bad game, this time losing to the Nets. That's four losses in their last six with some bad ones mixed in. Joe Johnson surprisingly returned, but still, something is amiss in Atlanta. They aren't scoring the ball well and don't appear to be themselves at all. It's hard to tell if this is just a little funk they're in or if there are larger issues at hand. Still, another bad loss is something to at least have an eye on.
Posted on: December 20, 2010 8:40 am

Shootaround 12.20.10: Trades, injuries and LeBron

Posted by Royce Young
  • Andrew Bynum says he's still feeling pain in his knee: "It's not going to change. It's nothing to be nervous about. I have to expect that that's going to happen. I can't wait to start working with my trainer (Sean Zarzana) again, so I can get some explosion back. I feel like I can't really jump right now."
  • Rashard Lewis doesn't seem like enough back for Gilbert Arenas. But Michael Lee of the Washington Post says that should've been expected: “The Wizards weren’t going to get “equal value” — or whatever that may be — at this time. And, unless they were willing to take back Baron Davis — which they weren’t — the Wizards couldn’t find another comparable point guard in the deal. So they had to settle on adding another forward to a team that is now overwhelmed at the position, with the return of Josh Howard."
  • Jermaine O'Neal wants to retire a Pacer: "Just because I'm not there anymore doesn't mean all the memories are forgotten ... If it wasn't for the Pacers, the organization and the community nobody would have probably known who I was. Anywhere in the world I go, they know me because of my Pacers days."
  • Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel : “Blame LeBron, Magic fans, if it helps. He’s been catching Heat (and that wasn’t even a forced pun) since he left the Cavs. Folks everywhere said he was at fault for everything from the Obama tax cuts to Sal Alosi to Miley Cyrus. Those are just coincidences. Not this. Sign up for our new Varsity Sports newsletter and get high school sports updates delivered right to your inbox. He’s a serial home-wrecker, fracturing franchises like Godzilla in an old sci-fi movie. He not only laid waste to the city of Cleveland, but he’s the supernatural force that eventually doomed Orlando, leading to the Magic’s break-up. Blame LeBron. If he stays in Cleveland or goes anywhere else but Miami, F-L-A, the Magic’s pre-trade woes aren’t quite as magnified or exposed. They wouldn’t look as if they were going backward so fast."
  • LeBron gets why Orlando brought back Hedo: “I’ve thought that it was surprising when Turk (Hedo Turkoglu) wasn’t brought back  the year after they beat us [Cleveland Cavaliers]. I just thought what Turk created for their team, that point-four created everything. He always created a mismatch and that was part of the reason why they beat us. There were times I would switch off onto Turk and they would go to Rashard (Lewis). Sometimes I would go on Rashard and they would go to Turk.  We were too small on the perimeter during those years … I know they’re happy to have him back. It’s gonna be different, it’s going to be a different transition because I know when you break up a team and bring guys in it takes a while. We’ll see what happens.”
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