Posted on: February 19, 2011 3:48 pm
Edited on: February 19, 2011 3:56 pm
Troy Murphy plays a surprising part in the Carmelo Anthony trade talks, and will likely be headed somewhere else soon one way or another.
Posted by Matt Moore
Troy Murphy is not a big name in the NBA. Last season in Indiana he averaged a double-double with 15 points and 10 rebounds. He was considered a long-shot for the trade asset the Cavaliers wanted to push them over the top which ended up being Antawn Jamison, which didn't work out well and we'll leave it at that. Then he was traded to New Jersey and was supposed to be part of the Nets' ascendance out of the gutter. Instead, he suffered through injuries, then Avery Johnson essentially told the 30-year-old to take a hike. So he's been hanging out and there are quite a few teams interested in his services, as a veteran big who can actually shoot, but no one wants to pay for him in a trade when they might be able to get him in buyout.
And this, of course, leads us back to Melo. For the last 24 hours, news reports have spilled out the same news, that the nine-player trade reportedly "agreed to" with the Nets involved the Nuggets getting Troy Murphy. Except that multiple reports have stated that the Nuggets unequivocably would not take Murphy. And that falls in line with Denver's M.O. this entire time, which is that they want all the good assets, to dump salary, and take on nothing. They want everything they desire in exchange for the All-Star. Yet all this talk went around about Murphy being sent to the Nuggets, who would have less than five days to turn him around.
Now we're starting to see a potential plot-line for Murphy winding up in the Melo deal plausibly.
First off, the News-Herald in Ohio reports that the Cavaliers are offering to step in and take Murphy in order to get one of the four first-round picks the Nets are offering. The Cavs are basically looking to be used as a "parking lot" for big expiring contracts using the LeBron James trade exception in order to clear space and get picks. Which is exactly what they should be doing.
How ironic would it be if the Cavaliers used their trade exception created when LeBron James left them high and dry in order to help the Nuggets avoid the same fate with Carmelo Anthony? Am I the only who finds that funny? Cleveland, no? Denver, no? OK, then.
Meanwhile, the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Warriors GM Larry Riley says they have had talks with New Jersey about Murphy, and are looking for a player or a pick. Riley emphasized that they don't have a deal in place, but they've been in the talks.
Should the Knicks talks break down and Melo suddenly get in a room with Prokhorov and get convinced, Murphy's going to have to go somewhere other than Denver. But it certainly looks like there are candidates ready to park Murphy's contract, especially when you consider he can still produce on the floor. Even if the Melo-Nets deal falls apart, Murphy's likely to be moved in another trade, or bought out after the deadline. His time in New Jersey is mercifully coming to a close.
Posted on: February 18, 2011 12:49 pm
Edited on: February 18, 2011 2:32 pm
Report says a tentative Nets-Melo deal is in place, but as always, Melo still has to agree to extension which he has resisted for six months.
Posted by Matt Moore
The Bergen Record is reporting a tentative deal is in place for Carmelo Anthony to become a Net, pending Anthony's agreement to an extension -- a piece of paper that has become the most ballyhooed document outside of Congress.
The deal is the same Ken Berger reported on Thursday evening and we discussed Thursday afternoon , reported now by the Record , ESPN , and Yahoo!. It features the Nuggets getting Devin Harris, Derrick Favors and Ben Uzoh, with a third team taking on Troy Murphy. No one's figured out a third team to take Murphy, so either the deal isn't as tentatively "done" as the Record is reporting or the teams are agreeing to a deal that assumes something they can't really count on. Again, no surprises there, considering how botched this process has been from the beginning.
So again, the ball is in Melo's court.
Berger reported early Thursday that no talks have been scheduled between Melo and Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov nor with Knicks owner James Dolan. That could change between now and Thursday's media availability, for which we'll have full coverage.
For Prokhorov to take this meeting is in and of itself revealing of his attitudes as an owner. Apparently enough was not enough. Despite Masai Ujiri playing with the Nets for up to six weeks, agreeing to deals then backtracking and wanting more, the Russian mogul is about to get in bed with Denver again, only this time he's giving up the largest collection of assets yet. It may be the best thing for his business, but you have to wonder how he'd feel about it were he to step back and realize how badly he's been jerked around so far, assuming these reports are accurate.
Anthony, however, isn't running into this arrangement with open arms. He's having to be convinced to meet with the owner of a National Basketball Association team in a major market that's looking to build a championship around him. If he's convinced, it won't be his whole self that is convinced -- it'll simply be an understanding that this is a compromise that features two of his goals: to play in a bigger market and to get the extension before the CBA is renegotiated.
And what will be left to help him after the Nets trade away nearly a third of their team? Billups, Vujacic, Humphries and Lopez, with Morrow, Farmar, Outlaw and Stephen Graham off the bench. GET EXCITED, NEW JERSEY. For the remaining year you have before the team bolts to Brooklyn.
This situation is as perplexing as ever, and should it fall through, Donnie Walsh may need oxygen because he'll be laughing so hard.
Posted on: February 17, 2011 8:29 pm
Edited on: February 17, 2011 8:34 pm
Conflicting reports surface regarding possible revived Nets-Nuggets talks for Carmelo Anthony.
Posted by Matt Moore
I could have swore we were just here. Yahoo! Sports is reporting that the New Jersey Nets are in "advanced talks" in a huge nine-player, four-pick deal that would shake out as the following:
New Jersey Nets receive:
Denver Nuggets receive:
And... four first-round picks.
That is an absurd lump of assets for one player, and if true, shows just how desperate the Nets are to contend immediately. They're giving up Derrick Favors and Harris, along with the expiring contract of Troy Murphy, basically to get Melo and Billups. And that's before you factor in giving up 4 first-rounders. Those picks are likely spread out over the 2011 through 2014 draft (the Nets own the Warriors 2011 pick, lottery protected, as well as their 2012, and the Rockets' 2012 picks), but that's a massive amount of first-rounders to surrender, even for an All-Star, before we look at the value of Harris and Favors.
However, a spokesperson for Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov Thursday reasserted to the AP that the owner "has not changed his mind" since cutting off talks with the Nuggets over the last deal when the Nets were asking for three first-rounders. ESPN reported Thursday that the Nets had entered into talks again, and that it was Prokhorov's insistence that the Nets be the ones to open the dialogue again.
So either Prokhorov's spokesperson is lying or not up to speed, and Prokhorov decided it was fine to deal with Denver if they opened talks, even if it meant talking about an even higher price tag than the last one Prokhorov walked away from, or the Nuggets are trying to apply pressure on New York by fabricating talks with the New Jersey Nets.
So this is fun.
Expect things to continue on this track through the weekend and possibly all the way to the deadline. The Melo story has just hit a whole other gear of crazy.
Posted on: January 21, 2011 9:02 am
Gerald Wallace may be drafted into playing big, unfortunately, Kobe's got his hands all over the L.A. sidwalk, literally, and the Magic are interested in Troy Murphy, reportedly. All this and more in today's Shootaround.
Posted by Matt Moore
Kobe Bryant will have his handprints put in cement outside that big Chinese theater in L.A. during All-Star weekend. We're pretty sure he's going to try and put his hands into cement harder than any of those other stars. He'll work harder at putting his hands into cement than anyone.
Is Blake Griffin your favorite new show?
The Magic are interested in Troy Murphy who is debatably on the block, should he become available in a buyout. San Antonio and Dallas are also interested, reportedly. It makes a lot of sense for the Magic, right? Power forward who can rebound and knock down mid-range shots fits in pretty well there, with their desperate need for depth down low. I mean, yes, Brandon Bass will probably break his hotel lamp, but he probably does that when the room service eggs aren't salted, either.
Greg Oden talks. We're pretty sure the subject of injury comes up at some point.
Joe Lacob isn't exactly sure what Keith Smart is doing with his rotations sometimes. Joe Lacob is just like you and me!
Kobe Bryant reflects on everything free agency.
Chuck Hayes is back, and all that stands between the Rockets and big man annihilation.
The worst statistical lineup for the Knicks? The one that starts.
Russell Westbrook knows the names of a bunch of Oklahoma towns. The great people of Poteau, OK are heartbroken to be left out.
With Tyrus Thomas out, the Bobcats will probably turn to Gerald Wallace at the four again, as he used to. Which is going to make him a very unhappy camper. Wallace played that position for years despite his insistence that he's a three, and the results were pretty clear. As in, he wound up having multiple injuries including a concussion trying to play bigger. This could get ugly.
Posted on: January 19, 2011 9:17 pm
Edited on: January 19, 2011 9:18 pm
New Jersey Nets forward Troy Murphy has requested a trade according to Nets GM Billy King. Posted by Ben Golliver.
It's one of the oldest and best tricks in the book: Wait until there's really big bad news that you're forced to deliver, and then provide all the rest of the bad news along with it. Even young children are masters of this tactic: Waiting to reveal a poor grade on a test until after their parents are already ticked off that they threw a rock through a window, for example.
Such is life for the New Jersey Nets, who early Wednesday withdrew from the Carmelo Anthony trade negotiations, removing any short-team hope that their fanbase had for salvaging another dreary season. Nearly lost, but not quite, in the storm of Anthony news, was a Sports Illustrated report that Nets GM Billy King publicly acknowledged that disgruntled power forward Troy Murphy has requested a trade.
Troy Murphy has requested a trade, Nets GM Billy King says. Murphy will be allowed to stay away from the team until they can deal him. King also confirmed the obvious at his press conference: Any deal with Detroit is now dead, too.The proposed trade with the Pistons would have sent Murphy to Detroit for guard Richard Hamilton, a precursor to the trade with Denver that would have landed Anthony in New Jersey. As Hamilton's contract is fully guaranteed through the end of next season and his production has fallen off considerably, New Jersey has no reason to take on his contract now that they're set to enter a full-scale rebuild without Anthony in the picture.
2010-2011 has been a tough year for Murphy, as a back injury limited him early on and he never seemed to appeal to new Nets coach Avery Johnson. He hasn't started since Nov. 9 and hasn't appeared in a game since Jan. 7. An offensively-skilled and versatile stretch forward acquired from the Indiana Pacers in a trade that sent Courtney Lee to Houston, Murphy may or may not get his trade wish granted.
With their season already in ruins, whether or not Murphy is content and/or productive is a non-factor for the Nets, simplifying this situation significantly. New Jersey doesn't need to worry about him being a distraction or not playing hard. Cast him away. Who cares. Nobody. Every minute he doesn't play is another minute for rookie forward and top 2010 draft pick Derrick Favors.
The worst case scenario for New Jersey with Murphy has always been to simply allow his expiring contract run out at the end of this season. Murphy's $11.97 million cap number -- he's the team's highest-paid player -- would come off this summer, giving New Jersey plenty of room to pursue a top-tier free agent or multiple targets.
The pre-deadline market for expiring contracts is unclear right now, as everyone was sitting around and waiting for the Anthony trade to kickoff the player movement season. If New Jersey can dump Murphy for a rotation player, they would certainly do it, but simply waiting out the duration of his deal would also have its advantages. Unlike with Anthony, the Nets hold all the cards here. Not that they're great cards to hold, but it's a microscopic consolation after a tough day.
Posted on: January 13, 2011 12:21 am
Edited on: January 13, 2011 12:35 am
Detroit Pistons veterans Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince teed off after Hamilton received a DNP-CD on Wednesday night for the first time during his Pistons career . Posted by Ben Golliver.
Back in November, we described the Detroit Pistons locker room as a house divided, where young players and veterans didn't mix much, and where frustration ruled the roost. As rumors regarding an ownership sale continue to swirl and the team finds itself in the middle of mega trade rumors this week, the toxic atmosphere is only getting worse.
On Wednesday, the Pistons lost to the Memphis Grizzlies at home, 107-99, and veteran guard Richard Hamilton unexpectedly received a DNP-CD. As you might imagine, he wasn't too thrilled, and neither was his 2004 NBA title-winning teammate Tayshaun Prince. Following the loss, Hamilton implied that he was disrespected and Prince apparently took issue with the intelligence of Pistons coach John Kuester.
MLive.com quoted Hamilton saying that the DNP-CD caught him by surprise.
“Tonight was a different situation,” he said. “This is probably the first time in my career that, when I put on a jersey, I didn’t play. I really can’t answer that right now. All I know is as long as I put that jersey on, I’m going to go out and play hard and be ready when my number’s called.”
“I came to the game with my same routine, that I was going to play,” Hamilton said. “Nobody warned me or told me anything. I just came out ready to play the game. “I was definitely surprised. Do I think it was a level of disrespect or unfair or anything like that? I’ll leave that to y’all.”"Buffoonery. Do you all know what that means?" Prince reportedly added regarding the decision, according to the Detroit News on Twitter.
The Detroit News also noted that Hamilton "stood away from his teammate during timeout, talking with longtime teammate Ben Wallace," during the game.
Kuester only said that Hamilton's benching was a coaching decision, according to the Detroit News. "We shortened the rotation and changed the lineup. That was it. Everybody's gotten a chance."
Hamilton's name has surfaced regularly in the Carmelo Anthony trade talks, and the Pistons were reportedly ready to send him to the New Jersey Nets for Troy Murphy. The deal was contingent upon Denver agreeing to trade Carmelo Anthony to the Nets, though, and those talks fell apart earlier this week.
Hamilton's situation is a frustrating limbo for any player to be in, especially one who has known much better days, is nearing the end of his career and understands that his role going forward is only going to diminish. For Hamilton, the Nets represent hope and change, if you can believe it.
With the loss, the Pistons fell to 12-26 on the season. They are currently in fourth place in the Central Division.
Posted on: January 10, 2011 4:33 pm
Edited on: January 10, 2011 5:34 pm
Denver Nuggets All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony says that a trade involving the Nuggets, the New Jersey Nets and Detroit Pistons isn't happening quite yet. Posted by Ben Golliver.
Ken Berger of CBSSports.com outlined Monday morning that the Denver Nuggets, New Jersey Nets and the Detroit Pistons made progress on a three-team trade that would send Nuggets All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony to the Nets in a complicated, multi-player deal. Berger noted that there "were miles to go -- not inches" and that progress hinged on whether Anthony would agree to signing an extension with the Nets.
As I noted Sunday , Anthony has played his cards fairly close to his vest, and there has yet to solid word that he would sign off on a move to the New Jersey Nets, who are downright awful and would be mostly gutted of their talent base in the trade scenario outlined over the weekend.
NBA Fanhouse reported on Twitter from Nuggets practice Monday that Anthony plans to meet with Nuggets executives at an undetermined time in the near future and that his future in Denver "is in the air." Anthony also noted, "until something happens, I'm a Denver Nugget."
Asked directly if he would sign an extension with the New Jersey Nets, Anthony responded, "I really don't know. I'm waiting to see Masai and Josh... They haven't been here." Masai and Josh are Masai Ujiri and Josh Kroenke, Denver's GM and President, respectively. Anthony also added that there was "no desperation" present in the scenario, leading many to conclude a trade isn't imminent.
Meanwhile, multiple media outlets reported that Nuggets point guard Chauncey Billups and Nets forward Troy Murphy, who were each involved in the three-team trade scenario, both did not attend practice on Monday. However, Billups was said to have a "headache" and Murphy was said to be "sick." Initially, their absences triggered speculation that a trade was underway, but that line of reasoning has quieted down Monday afternoon.
In other words, our long, national nightmare continues.
For more on the Carmelo Anthony trade talks, check out this week's edition of CBSSports.com's NBA podcast . You can also watch Berger breaking down the Anthony situation with CBSSports.com's Adam Aizer and Greg Urbano below.
Posted on: January 7, 2011 9:33 pm
Edited on: January 7, 2011 10:17 pm
Posted by Royce Young
Just over 24 hours ago, we told you about how the Nuggets were possibly involving the Cleveland Cavaliers in a three-way deal that would send Carmelo Anthony to New Jersey. But as the world turns with this Carmelo crap, things have changed. I'm telling you, this is never going to end.
According to The Bergen Record, the Nets are in talks with of course the Nuggets, but have also involved the Detroit Pistons. Let me warn you, this gets a little complicated. But reportedly, the Nets would send Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and at least two first-round picks to Denver and Troy Murphy and his expiring contract to the Pistons. On top of that, ESPN.com reports the Pistons would have to take on Johan Petro's contract as well as send the Nets a first-round pick.
The Nets would of course get Anthony, but also a couple of surprise pieces. In addition to Carmelo, New Jersey would bring in Chauncey Billups from Denver and Richard Hamilton from Detroit. The Pistons have been shopping Hamilton and his remaining two-year, $25 million contract pretty hard this season.
The report says that more players would be involved to make the salaries line up, but this is just one of the many, many scenarios New Jersey is pitching. Also, reportedly the Nets are trying to trade straight up with Denver for Carmelo.
As Ken Berger has reported, the Nets have had an offer of Favors, Murphy and first-round picks on the table for a while. But as Berger has said, that type of trade might not happen until closer to the Feb. 24 trade deadline. The Nuggets aren't psyched about paying Murphy's salary right now, but might warm up to it when less is owed to him.
At first glance, this is a pretty tremendous deal for New Jersey if it were to happen. To unload Murphy, plus get Anthony, Billups and Hamilton? The question wouldn't be if this were a good deal for the Nets, it would be, "Are these guys contenders now?" Billups, Hamilton, Carmelo, Kris Humphries and Brook Lopez -- that's a pretty darn good starting five, is it not?
The Pistons move Hamilton -- something they desperately want to do -- and get a nice expiring deal in return. The Nuggets probably feel like they could've had more, but Harris, Favors and picks isn't bad at all. I'm not sure they're going to do much better than that.
However, Chris Broussard of ESPN.com tweeted that while the deal has been discussed, it's not happening in its current form. The Pistons aren't willing to give up Hamilton and a first-rounder for Murphy and Petro. And nor should they be. Pretty cruddy deal on their end.
Again, this is just the latest scenario that's surfaced that would move Anthony out of Denver. It doesn't mean this is The Trade that will happen or that in 24 hours we'll be hearing this went official. But it's clear the Nets are motivated to make a deal happen. They don't want to hang around until the deadline. They want to make this move now. And they're willing to call just about any and every team out there to get them involved to make it happen.