Posted on: January 11, 2011 10:59 pm
Edited on: January 11, 2011 11:01 pm
Report: Nuggets angling for Nicolas Batum in the event Melo is traded as part of rebuilding effort.
Posted by Matt Moore
According to a report we mentioned earlier, the Denver Nuggets' angle in all this Carmelo-Anthony-trade in-and-out talk is to create a combination of Nicolas Batum and Derrick Favors. Following up on something Ken Berger of CBSSports.com reported last week, ESPN reports that Batum is a top target for Masai Ujiri and the Nuggets. Several teams have inquired of Batum's availability, but the Nuggets would have a good chance at him, provided they can get this never-ending deal with New Jersey done.
Basically, it goes down like this. Denver trades Melo in the whole complicated three-way to New Jersey for Favors, Devin Harris, and picks. Since Denver already has Ty Lawson, whom they love with all their little hearts, they then trade Harris to the Blazers who have been trying to find a young guard upgrade over Andre Miller for the past century. They send Harris and a pick in order to get Batum. Then the Nuggets have their pick, a Nets future pick, Nicolas Batum, and Derrick Favors along with Ty Lawson and a bunch of older, often-injured bigs, but that too is solvable (starting with Kenyon Martin's huge expiring contract).
With Batum the Nuggets would get a young, talented versatility player who can shoot from the outside, has a lot of athleticism, and most importantly, is a natural defender. Those are exceptionally rare in this league. Alongside Lawson with Favors low, the Nuggets would have a young core to build around.
The question is whether Denver will actually ever pull the trigger on the first deal with New Jersey to facilitate a trade with Portland. So far, Denver's shown nothing but a penchant for watching the pitches pass them by.
Posted on: January 11, 2011 7:18 pm
Posted by Royce Young
All the hemming and hawing between Denver and all involved parties over a potential Carmelo Anthony trade is holding up other deals, according to Fanhouse.
Mentioned in the report is that the Nuggets and Portland Trail Blazers would get together on a second trade if Carmelo is sent to the Nets. The deal would involve Devin Harris being sent to the Blazers for Nicolas Batum and Andre Miller. This isn't the first Batum rumor out there and from all indications, Portland is extremely against moving Batum. Miller on the other hand is someone that's likely available to any and all.
But with 15, 16, 17 and maybe even 18 players mentioned in the rumored three-way trade sending Anthony to New Jersey, a lot of other things and being hung up because of all the pieces involved. No telling what those deals might be, but evidently other teams are waiting to see how this pans out before they grab their phones.
It is a little funny how so many players are potentially set to be uprooted because of Carmelo's situation. With potentially 18 players getting flipped -- not to mention the draft picks -- it's understandable how other general managers might not know what to do right now. It's understandable for other GMs to wait and see who ends up where and if that player is actually a long term piece in that new place.
And it's not only players that are having their future held by the Nuggets dealing with Anthony. George Karl's contract extension has reportedly been delayed as well because of the Carmelo stuff. Karl has indicated he wants to stay in Denver as long as possible and the Nuggets appear to want to keep him. It's just that with all the uncertainty, I guess the Nuggets want to get things settled first.
On top of that, all of this is surely having an effect on the actual players still playing in Denver. Every day they have to come to practice or shootaround with media members armed and ready to fire away with trade related questions. I'm sure Chauncey Billups isn't excited to talk about a potential trade right now.
So with all of this hinging on trading Carmelo Anthony, it just seems like the Nuggets will start to get a little more proactive. They've already dragged this thing along for this long, so obviously they aren't in any kind of rush. Even if that means that a good portion of the league has to sit on its hands waiting to see what happens.
Posted on: January 10, 2011 11:44 am
Posted by Royce Young
That Devin Harris trade to New Jersey a few years ago that brought the Dallas Mavericks Jason Kidd is still something people debate and discuss. It happened in Feb. 2008 with the Mavs sitting near the top of the West at 35-17. After the deal, Dallas finished just 16-14 and didn't make much noise in the postseason.
Though Harris has played for the terrible Nets since the deal, most have always felt that Dallas got the short end of the deal.
The reason I bring all of this up? Because Dallas could be potentially interested in bringing back Harris. According to ESPNDallas.com, if the Nets, Nuggets and whoever else consumate the trade being discussed that sends Harris to Denver, the Mavs have talked about trying to deal with the Nuggets to get Harris.
The logic is this: First, because Jason Kidd isn't playing for forever. Dallas had Rodrigue Beaubois and J.J. Barea, but the Mavs are certainly interested in a long-term option at point guard. Second, Dallas needs some scoring help. Harris is a point guard by trade, but he's one of those that can score the ball as well as create. So there's an option to play him together with Kidd in the backcourt to provide Dallas the much needed scoring since Caron Butler's injury.
And third, Dallas knows that the Nuggets really don't have a ton of use for Harris. Denver likely would want to turn over the future at point guard to Ty Lawson who has given the Nuggets every reason to think he can handle it. Plus, Denver is looking to save a bit on its luxury tax bill and there's the potential that Chauncey Billups would get a buyout and want to return to Denver. Harris wouldn't have a lot of use then obviously.
Dallas's main focus is a wing option to actually fill the Butler opening. According to the report, the Mavs aren't locked in on a Harris deal, but would be if this whole mega-deal goes through. And on top of that, other teams would be looking to get in on Harris, something the Mavs don't want to see happen. (Portland is mentioned as one of those teams.)
Kidd has actually done well in Dallas. The Mavericks were doing great this season, before injuries started to become an issue. So Dallas looking into this trade isn't at all about Kidd. It's about the future as well as the present. The Mavs are trying to think about what comes next (Kidd is 37) as well as getting some scoring help now.
First through, Carmelo Anthony has to get freaking traded. And the world waits.
Posted on: January 9, 2011 5:34 pm
Edited on: January 9, 2011 8:34 pm
The Denver Nuggets, Detroit Pistons, and New Jersey Nets are reportedly advancing on a three-team that would include Nuggets All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony. Posted by Ben Golliver.
Multiple outlets are reporting Sunday that a three-team trade scenario involving the Denver Nuggets, New Jersey Nets and Detroit Pistons that would send All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony to the New Jersey Nets is edging closer to fruition. The initial trade talks were discussed here on Saturday.
Yahoo! Sports reported that talks were "progressing" and the Bergen Record reported that "things definitely are moving forward" and that a trade could take place "within the next 48 hours." Sports Illustrated added later Sunday that the deal is "as close as it's ever been.
ESPNNY.com recapped the trade specifics as they stood later Sunday.
A three-team deal involving the Detroit Pistons that would include at least 15 players -- with Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups winding up in New Jersey with Anthony -- could be completed as soon as this week, sources said.
The primary elements of the scenario currently on the table, sources said, call for New Jersey to acquire Anthony, Billups and Hamilton; Denver to land Devin Harris, Derrick Favors, Anthony Morrow and at least two first-round picks; and Detroit to acquire Troy Murphy and Johan Petro.This version is slightly tweaked from the original trade scenario laid out on Saturday.
The Nets would send Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and at least two first-round picks to Denver and Troy Murphy and his expiring contract to the Pistons. On top of that, ESPN.com reports the Pistons would have to take on Johan Petro's contract as well as send the Nets a first-round pick.
The Nets would of course get Anthony, but also a couple of surprise pieces. In addition to Carmelo, New Jersey would bring in Chauncey Billups from Denver and Richard Hamilton from Detroit. The Pistons have been shopping Hamilton and his remaining two-year, $25 million contract pretty hard this season.Of every Carmelo Anthony trade proposal to hit the internet, this version is by far the most plausible, and it represents about as close to a win/win/win as you're going to find when a superstar of this magnitude trades teams. Here's a brief rundown.
For Denver, they get exactly what we've been saying they should want all along in an Anthony deal: younger talent, draft picks and some salary cap flexibility by moving Billups' contract.
For New Jersey, they get Anthony at a fairly reasonable price and get to surround him with another solid starting piece (Hamilton), and also potentially undo one of the worst signings of the 2010 summer, Johan Petro.
For Detroit, they get great value in dumping the unhappy Hamilton and saving big-time dollars down the road, and would get to enjoy the financial relief provided by Murphy's large expiring contract at the end of the season.
This one likely comes down to the last big hurdle: Whether Anthony will agree to sign a contract extension with the Nets, and whether he will agree to it now or decide he wants to wait longer. Yahoo! Sports reports that it "seems unlikely" Anthony wouldn't agree to a three-year contract extension with New Jersey now that Hamilton is in play, but Anthony has held his cards very close to his vest, so it's difficult to be sure.
UPDATE 8:32 p.m. ET: Chris Mannix of SI reports that New Jersey is "convinced" Melo will sign the extension. Meanwhile Yahoo! Sports reports the following players are also involved in the deal, in addition to those previously discussed: Ben Uzoh, Stephen Graham, and Quinton Ross will go to Denver in the proposed deal, while Anthony Carter and Shelden Williams will go to New Jersey. Detroit is still only slated to get Troy Murphy and the point of contention that's holding the deal up: Johan Petro.
Posted on: January 7, 2011 9:33 pm
Edited on: January 7, 2011 10:17 pm
Posted by Royce Young
Just over 24 hours ago, we told you about how the Nuggets were possibly involving the Cleveland Cavaliers in a three-way deal that would send Carmelo Anthony to New Jersey. But as the world turns with this Carmelo crap, things have changed. I'm telling you, this is never going to end.
According to The Bergen Record, the Nets are in talks with of course the Nuggets, but have also involved the Detroit Pistons. Let me warn you, this gets a little complicated. But reportedly, the Nets would send Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and at least two first-round picks to Denver and Troy Murphy and his expiring contract to the Pistons. On top of that, ESPN.com reports the Pistons would have to take on Johan Petro's contract as well as send the Nets a first-round pick.
The Nets would of course get Anthony, but also a couple of surprise pieces. In addition to Carmelo, New Jersey would bring in Chauncey Billups from Denver and Richard Hamilton from Detroit. The Pistons have been shopping Hamilton and his remaining two-year, $25 million contract pretty hard this season.
The report says that more players would be involved to make the salaries line up, but this is just one of the many, many scenarios New Jersey is pitching. Also, reportedly the Nets are trying to trade straight up with Denver for Carmelo.
As Ken Berger has reported, the Nets have had an offer of Favors, Murphy and first-round picks on the table for a while. But as Berger has said, that type of trade might not happen until closer to the Feb. 24 trade deadline. The Nuggets aren't psyched about paying Murphy's salary right now, but might warm up to it when less is owed to him.
At first glance, this is a pretty tremendous deal for New Jersey if it were to happen. To unload Murphy, plus get Anthony, Billups and Hamilton? The question wouldn't be if this were a good deal for the Nets, it would be, "Are these guys contenders now?" Billups, Hamilton, Carmelo, Kris Humphries and Brook Lopez -- that's a pretty darn good starting five, is it not?
The Pistons move Hamilton -- something they desperately want to do -- and get a nice expiring deal in return. The Nuggets probably feel like they could've had more, but Harris, Favors and picks isn't bad at all. I'm not sure they're going to do much better than that.
However, Chris Broussard of ESPN.com tweeted that while the deal has been discussed, it's not happening in its current form. The Pistons aren't willing to give up Hamilton and a first-rounder for Murphy and Petro. And nor should they be. Pretty cruddy deal on their end.
Again, this is just the latest scenario that's surfaced that would move Anthony out of Denver. It doesn't mean this is The Trade that will happen or that in 24 hours we'll be hearing this went official. But it's clear the Nets are motivated to make a deal happen. They don't want to hang around until the deadline. They want to make this move now. And they're willing to call just about any and every team out there to get them involved to make it happen.
Posted on: December 29, 2010 5:32 pm
Edited on: August 14, 2011 9:53 pm
Miami Heat forward LeBron James made comments concerning contraction and New Jersey Nets point guard Devin Harris, and Harris is reportedly"offended." Posted by Ben Golliver. Last week, Miami Heat forward LeBron James really stepped in it, advocating for the contraction of NBA teams to achieve a league that more closely resembled the NBA of the 1980s. Clearly, he was misguided. Shortly after making his comments, James tried to back off, but the damage was done. As you might recall, James singled out the Minnesota Timberwolves and New Jersey Nets in his comments, saying, "I’m just looking at some of the teams that are not that great. You take Brook Lopez or you take Devin Harris off teams that are not that good right now and add them to a team that could be really good. I’m not saying let’s take New Jersey, let’s take Minnesota out of the league. But hey, you guys are not stupid. I’m not stupid, but I know what would be great for the league.” Harris, to no one's great surprise, wasn't particularly thrilled about the nature of the comments and the specific mention of the Nets and himself in James' argument for contracting the league. Indeed, NJ.com reports that Harris was "offended" by James' comments.
“For him to talk about us specifically was a little offensive,’’ Harris said after practice, and before the Nets left for Oklahoma City for tonight’s game against the Thunder. “I mean, from a business standpoint ... what’s best, we’re still trying to figure this out. But (James is) in the mind-set of, ‘Let’s just team everybody up with stars and kind of duke it out,’ which, it kind of was like that in previous ages, but who’s to say what’s best for the league.’’Kudos to Harris for accomplishing a very rare feat in the NBA: standing up to LeBron James publicly. James' comments in general were ridiculous, and the fact that he included specific teams and players pushed them past the "reckless" threshold. Not that he cares. For more reaction to the idea of contraction from small-market teams, check out Matt Moore's piece with Rudy Gay and Zach Randolph of the Memphis Grizzlies.
Posted on: December 8, 2010 11:22 am
Edited on: December 8, 2010 11:36 am
Dirk and his elbow, surprising guards, and Monroe exists, all in today's Game Changer. Posted by Matt Moore
Each game is made up of elements which help formulate the outcome. Monday through Friday, we'll bring you the elements from the night before's games in our own specialized version of the game recaps. It's not everything that happened, but it's an insight into what lead to the results you'll see in the box scores. This is the Game Changer.
THE BIG ONE: David Lee STILL HAS ELBOW PROBLEMSWhile the Dallas bench was doing its thing , the Warriors managed to stay in this one with turnovers leading to fast breaks. Or, basically, your standard Warrior plan of attack. But when the Mavericks absolutely had to get buckets? They turned to Dirk Nowitzki. Either with his elbow, or at the elbow.
What you'll notice here is that Nowitzki's able to create space with his shooting elbow, which is kind of insane. It's the post-fake that gets David Lee shook trying to recover, but on the step-back through, he brings that elbow up and through, with his forearm creating kind of a stone wall between Lee's recovery attempt and a block. Granted, Nowitzki being seven feet tall helps quite a bit, but that perfect elbow placement is part of it.
And again, we see Nowitzki stepping back into Lee, freezing him. By the time Lee recognizes what's happening, Dirk's elbow is already in place, again, creating a barrier between he and Lee. You've got to body Nowitzki in order to defend it, and bodying Nowitzki means you're probably fouling him. This is why he's Dirk.
And finally, in crunch time:
Forget for a moment that Jason Terry successfully screens two Warriors defenders. When Nowitzki receives this pass, he's at that elbow sweet spot. But he doesn't have to disturb his placement at all when the pass comes in. The movement is one fluid process. Step out to receive the pass, catch the ball, swing the other leg back to square up, rise, and release.
You know what keeps Dirk Nowitzki as good as he is at 32? Precision.
GO-GO-GADGET LINE OF THE NIGHT:Josh Smith: 34 points on 14-16 shooting, 7 assists, 3 rebounds (weird), 1 steal, 2 blocks in 38 minutes.
Luis Scola: 35 points, 12 rebounds, 1 block
Pau Gasol: 21 points, 14 rebounds, 8 assists
WHAT YOU MISSED:
SURPRISING GUARDS SURPRISINGSome underrated guards had a few nice games last night:
FINAL THOUGHTS:Stephen Curry has a ridiculous set of fakes to his arsenal, particularly while on the move with the ball. He's got fakes within fakes within fakes. Last night he used about five of them on a baseline drive that absolutely froze Shawn Marion, allowing an easy reverse under the basket.
Greg Monroe is alive! 7 points, 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and 2 blocks for the young'n which isn't much, but he also looked more confident in 25 minutes against the Rockets. Good signs for a Pistons team that needs some element of hope.
Luis Scola has a remarkable ability to shoot directly from wherever he lands on an offensive rebound. He snares the ball, then goes right back up in a hook.
Posted on: October 13, 2010 10:22 am
Edited on: August 14, 2011 7:47 pm
Posted by Ben Golliver.
Pardon my pessimism, but the early reports regarding Houston’s plan to impose a strict playing time limit on center Yao Ming, who is returning from a lengthy rehabilitation after undergoing foot surgery, had me spooked. A body that big with a base that potentially fragile is a ticking time bomb, and it’s one that comes with any number of psychological hurdles to go along with the physical ones. Watching Yao play well in Houston's 91-81 exhibition win over the New Jersey Nets on Wednesday morning in Beijing, then, came as a pleasant surprise.
Yao’s first-half play was solid, noteworthy for the smoothness of his gait and his activity level on both ends. On offense, Yao extended out to the three-point line to set high screens with ease and he extended smoothly to provide help defense as well. As is often the case during preseason, the game was an up-and-down affair with plenty of quick triggers. Yao kept pace with mobile Nets center Brook Lopez, one of the league's best young big men, thanks in part to the relatively short length of his stints in both the first and second quarters.
It was during the first six minutes of the third quarter that Yao really distinguished himself. He drew two quick fouls on Houston defenders, hit a 20 foot face-up jumper, and continued to effortlessly set high screens for point guard Aaron Brooks. He was perhaps even better defensively, playing the passing lanes to grab a steal, starting transition play with two outlet passes and positioning his body effectively to defend and frustrate Lopez on the low block. Although he appeared to tire slightly and didn’t commit to rebounding on every possession, his impact was unmistakeable.
Yao’s third-quarter run ended with a thud, as he bowled over Nets guard Devin Harris, who cheekily stepped in front of his path in transition, and came crashing to the court. Man down! Cue panic response. But Yao rose quickly and with a wry smile, clearly disagreeing with the player control foul but not letting it spoil his good humor.
Taken together -- his movement, his mood -- it's fair to call Yao’s 9 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, and 2 steals effort in 18 minutes a baby step back to normal.