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Posted on: February 19, 2011 4:47 pm
Edited on: February 19, 2011 8:21 pm
 

Nets' Melo talks are contradicting as always

Nets owner releases statement he will not meet with Carmelo Anthony as report surfaces Anthony has yet again informed those close to him he will not sign an extension to play for New Jersey. 
Posted by Matt Moore

Update 8:10 p.m.: The New York Daily News is reporting that Melo will meet with Prokhorov tonight. Of course they are. Yahoo! confirms the report. Of course they do. Melo and Prokhorov have been lying through their teeth about these meetings all weekend, so this doesn't come as a shock. But Melo's consistently been reported to be very reticent about joining the Nets. If Prokhorov has his audience, he's got one shot to salvage this thing. 


It certainly looks like the Russian got played. Again. Significant developments occurred Saturday to indicate that the Nets' revived efforts to trade for Carmelo Anthony are either dead, or dying.  Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov released a statement through his spokesperson Saturday afternoon saying: 
Mikhail has not met with and has no plans to meet with Carmelo Anthony. He is looking forward to enjoying All Star Weekend. We will have nothing else to add on this.
via The Bergen Record: In the 'Zzone.

Anthony confirmed to NBA FanHouse that he had no plans to meet with Prokhorov, either. 


This is then followed by a report from the New York Times that Anthony has, once again, reasserted that he will not sign an extension in the event of a trade to the New Jersey Nets, effectively eliminating them from the race, if accurate. This has been Anthony's position for a while as CBSSports.com's Ken Berger has reported. And by "fora while", I mean "since September." Throughout multiple efforts by the Nets to acquire Anthony, each time he has backed away from the idea of signing the extension with the Nets. And each time the Nets have come crawling back through the door, even after Prokhorov said he was done the first time. 

So the Times reports Anthony won't sign the extension, and in the same time frame Prokhorov releases a statement saying he has not met and will not meet with Anthony.  That's the sound of damage control.  

Honestly, Prokhorov should never have OK'd anyone from the Nets to get involved again. From the beginning there was talk that the Nuggets were using the Nets to apply pressure on the Knicks to beef up their offer,  a plan which seems to have worked. The Nets swallowed their pride in the hopes of getting the superstar they've covete, and instead have wound up as nothing more than a pawn for the Nuggets to extract more assets from the Knicks, when the Knicks know they maintain leverage.  The Nets now look weak from multiple angles, as a franchise free agents don't want to play for, as a front office easily manipulated, and a team desperate to gut its roster for a star who at the very least is signficantly reticent to join them. Having secret meetings while denying any involvement doesn't really work if everyone and the world knows that Jay-Z is in town and looking to meet with Prokhorov and Anthony. Even if the Nets do land Melo, it's been a bungled approach from the start, and that's before you consider they've essentially offered all the tea in China for him to the Nuggets. And even that hasn't achieved their goal. 

Then again, every report that comes out contradicts the one before it, so Anthony could be a Net by sundown and I wouldn't be surprised. The Knicks' latest offer includes Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, and a first round draft pick via Minnesota (in exchange for Anthony Randolph). 


Posted on: February 17, 2011 9:35 am
Edited on: February 17, 2011 9:36 am
 

Report: Nuggets want Knicks' farm for Melo

Report indicates Nuggets asked Knicks for four of top six players including Raymond Felton, Wilson Chandler, and Gallinari.
Posted by Matt Moore



Photo via Getty Images, illustration via Eye on Basketball. Laughs out loud via Masai Ujiri.

Basically, the next things Masai Ujiri's going to ask for are the fillings out of Donnie Walsh's teeth and Mike D'Antoni's mustache. That's pretty much all that's left for them to ask in exchange for Melo if a report out of New York Times is accurate. From the Times

According to a Knicks official, Denver wants Raymond Felton, Landry Fields, Wilson Chandler and Danilo Gallinari — four of their top six players — for Carmelo Anthony and an aging Chauncey Billups. The Nuggets have also asked about Timofey Mozgov.
via Knicks Making Progress. Will They Make a Deal? - NYTimes.com.

Oh, and the New York Post reports that first-rounder via the Timberwolves for Anthony Randolph is a requisite, too. Next on the list are "all the tea in China," "Fort Knox," "a pet Chupacabra" and "the top floor of the Empire State Building."  This is an absurd asking price, even as a starter, even for an All-Star starter. The Nuggets apparently think that Carmelo Anthony can play every position on the floor except point guard and power forward.  The Knicks would never surrender Gallinari and Fields in any scenario, not when one is a high-upside, high-percentage perimeter threat and the other is in the top five for Rookie of the Year. Raymond Felton is even a stretch, even if they were getting Chauncey Billups back in the deal. This isn't just too much. It's what happens when you ask for too much, then decide to throw in some extra wishes on top. 

This is pretty much the model of what Masai Ujiri has done in these negotiations. Ask for too much, from a position of weakness, then ask for more. We're fairly certain if the Knicks had somehow, someway agreed to that deal, Ujiri would have then asked for the Rockettes. 

As Ken Berger reported Wednesday, Knicks GM Donnie Walsh won't be freaking out over these talks. If Denver wants to continue throwing out ridiculous price tags in an effort to get a steal right up until the last minute, he's content to let them stimmer in their own absurd demands. The Knicks stomped the fourth-seeded Hawks last night to get a much needed win, will be making the playoffs regardless, and the future is bright with or without Melo. The fact that Denver is desperate enough to be trying to get what amounts to one of the most ridiculous deals this side of the Pau Gasol trade actually only further puts into relief how much they're flirting with disaster here. 

Even if they've moved towards a reasonable compromise from this starting position, you have to wonder just who it is that Masai Ujiri thinks he's got here. Melo is a top talent. An All-Star. But no rings, little defense, and not a legend. 

But apparently he's got a legend's asking price. 

No one's giving up that much for Carmelo Anthony, except Isiah Thomas. And he's not calling the shots. Yet
Posted on: February 8, 2011 4:11 pm
Edited on: February 8, 2011 4:13 pm
 

Denver is looking for more than just Chandler

Posted by Royce Young

Forget all this Carmelo Anthony to the Lakers talk. As Ken Berger reports, someone is just trying to ruffle the Knicks feathers.

So let's get back to painfully covering every bit of the Melo-to-New York stuff. As Berger first reported last week, there's a three-team trade being floated involving the Knicks, Timberwolves and Nuggets. Denver would get Wilson Chandler from New York plus Corey Brewer and a first-round pick from Minnesota.

But most feel like this just isn't near enough for Carmelo Stinking Anthony, so according to ESPN.com, the Nuggets are hunting for more.

The initial discussions revolved strictly around Chandler, but now Denver is asking for some of New York's younger assets in Danilo Gallinari and Landry Fields, plus Chandler.

I bet opposing general managers are getting pretty sick of the Nuggets saying, "OK, so how about you throw in a little more too."

Rookie Andy Rautins and Kelenna Azuibuike and his expiring contract were also mentioned earlier as well.

The Knicks would likely balk a bit more at including that much, seeing as they know they can just get Carmelo in free agency over the summer. As much as Denver thinks it has some leverage in this game, all that passed out the window when the Nets pulled out. Melo wants to play in New York and he'll get there one way or another. So while of course the Nuggets can ask for more, the Knicks can just wait until July and keep their young players.

What it comes down to, is if the Knicks feel like adding Melo this year gives them a legitimate chance in the postseason. If so, they might be more inclined to deal some of their younger talent.

It has to be somewhat tempting for New York to just get it over with now and have Carmelo. Once they hit the right mark, Denver will pull the trigger. The trade deadline is rapidly approaching and the Nuggets don't want to get burned. So while they can keep asking for the Knicks to add this or add that, at some point they're just going to have to lay the cards on the table and make the call.
Posted on: February 8, 2011 1:29 pm
 

James Dolan stepping in to get Melo deal done?

Posted by Royce Young

When things aren't getting done, that's when the boss takes over. And that's the case in New York as MSG chairman James Dolan has now involved himself in the Carmelo Anthony trade talks.

According to the New York Daily News, Dolan has direct negotiations with Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke regarding Anthony.

"I would think that at this point everyone is looking to take credit if Carmelo comes to New York," a Knicks source tells the newspaper. 

Well that's an interesting way of putting it. So Dolan is just looking to create a little goodwill with fans? How can you blame him though with the repeated disasters that have happened under his regime.

Really, it's not a bad move by Dolan. General managers can hem and haw over players and picks all day long, but nothing is stopping the bosses from getting involved to get something done. So Dolan stepped right over Masai Ujiri's head and called up Kroenke to try and advance the talks. We all know Melo wants to be in New York so Dolan is trying to find out what it'll take to make that happen.

One thing the report mentions that is certainly interesting is that Dolan still talks with Isiah Thomas to which the Daily News speculates that this could mean Thomas is advising Dolan on the Melo talks. Thomas has a good relationship with William Wesley who works for CAA. Carmelo is represented by Leon Rose, who is also part of CAA.

As Ken Berger first reported,
there is a deal on the table between the Wolves, Knicks and Nuggets that would send Anthony to New York. However, that deal isn't really all that close to happening, according to multiple outlets.

The Lakers have reportedly made inquiries about Anthony and have offered Andrew Bynum straight up for the Denver swingman. To me, that reeks of a Denver leak trying to up the ante for the Knicks. The Nuggets are trying to increase leverage there, no doubt.

The problem with the current deal is that the Nuggets aren't getting near what they had in the previous Nets deal that fell through. Right now, the biggest piece other than Minnesota's first round pick is Wilson Chandler from the Knicks. And as the Daily News reports, Chandler isn't totally healed from a repaired left ankle.

So even if the Nuggets like Chandler, this issue with his ankle could be a hangup in getting a deal done. Chandler is a restricted free agent this summer (if he gets a qualifying offer, which he will), but his ankle situation could affect his offers too.
Posted on: February 7, 2011 7:04 pm
Edited on: February 7, 2011 7:11 pm
 

New names in Nuggets / Knicks / Wolves proposal?

More names have surfaced in a Carmelo Anthony trade proposal involving the Denver Nuggets, New York Knicks and Minnesota Timberwolves. Postedcarmelo-anthony by Ben Golliver.

The latest round of Carmelo Anthony trade proposal rumors have involved the Minnesota Timberwolves, who have tons of cap space to act a potentieal facilitator of a deal between the Denver Nuggets, who must trade their All-Star forward or risk losing him for nothing this summer, and the New York Knicks, who want Anthony but are trying to appeaer coy about the whole thing.

Last week, CBSSports.com's Ken Berger first reported the talks. Over the weekend, we noted one trade proposal that involved Knicks center Eddy Curry and forward Anthony Randolph going to Minnesota along with cash, Timberwolves forward Corey Brewer, a pick, and Knicks forward Wilson Chandler going to Denver, and Anthony going to New York. 

The New York Post reports on Monday that the talks are in "advanced discussions" and that a few other Knicks may be involved as well.
Rookie guard Andy Rautins and Kelenna Azubuike's expiring contract have been discussed as parts of the Carmelo Anthony three-team package, The Post has learned. The Knicks have to add more pieces to the reported three-team trade proposal for Anthony to make it work from a talent and financial perspective for the Nuggets, according to NBA sources.
The Knicks, Nuggets and Timberwolves have had advanced discussions on a three-team trade, according to two people with knowledge of the situation.The Knicks would also give up Wilson Chandler, Anthony Randolph (to Minnesota) and Eddy Curry's expiring contract.
Here's what it would look like in the trade machine, if you're interested. It can't go down exactly as constructed because Denver would exceed the league's 15-player roster maximum, so either Denver would need to shed some other pieces or the incoming package wouldn't include all four of the names that have been floated out there.

For Denver, all that's missing is talent! But, seriously, this is a huge discount on the New Jersey Nets offer that was discussed for the last few months. Financially, the Nuggets take on no future obligations -- acquiring three expiring contracts -- except Rautins, who is on a second-round pick's rookie deal. The picks would be nice, too, but still not nearly as attractive as the prospect of Derrick Favors. It is better than nothing, however, and we are entering the stage of negotiatons where "better than nothing" is starting to look better and better.

For New York, this is the dream scenario: upgrade from Chandler to Anthony without sacrificing a single core piece in the process. It allows New York to become a legit title contender in the East. Nothing more needs to be said.

Remarkably, Minnesota might come up even shorter than Denver here. The Wolves are one of only two teams, along with the Sacramento Kings, to have legit cap space, and that's proven to be a powerful trade deadline asset. To turn that space into Anthony Randolph, still a project, and enough cash to cover the difference between the remaining money owed to Curry and Brewer doesn't seem like a very good return on that asset. Surely there are better offers out there, either now or as we get closer to the deadline.

Any time two of the three teams are coming up short, that's probably a good sign this deal isn't going down as reported. But this triad of teams is worth keeping an eye on, purely for financial reasons. The Knicks have money to burn and a desire to get a deal done; given their respective ownership groups, both Denver and Minnesota are always in the market for financially beneficial moves and, in this case, Minnesota is in a perfect position to help make that kind of deal happen.

There's no reason to believe that these three sides shouldn't continue talking in an effort to craft a more even proposal that benefits all of the involved parties. But this iteration is lacking some needed clarity.
Posted on: February 6, 2011 2:00 am
Edited on: February 6, 2011 2:02 am
 

Wolves involved in latest N.Y. Melo talks

Knicks moving in closer on Carmelo Anthony. Again. Yes, it's different this time. We think.
Posted by Matt Moore

On Friday in his Post-Ups, Ken Berger shared the following update to the Knicks' pursuit of Carmelo Anthony: 


While the Nuggets realize they will have to seriously engage the Knicks in trade talks for Anthony before the Feb. 24 deadline, a third team already has stepped into the on-deck circle as a potential facilitator if talks between Denver and New York ever gain traction. That team, sources say, is the Timberwolves, who are willing to absorb Eddy Curry's $11.3 million expiring contract in a three-team scenario that would send Anthony Randolph to Minnesota and Anthony to New York. In this scenario, which one executive involved deemed "unlikely," the Wolves would simply waive Curry after the trade. Depending on the timing, Curry would likely have only five paychecks remaining for a total of $4.7 million. So taking on Curry would involve little or no cost to Minnesota; if the Wolves could negotiate a $3 million buyout covering the remainder of Curry's salary, that tab would be fully picked up by the Knicks, who could send as much as $3 million cash to Minnesota in the trade. But Curry's $11.3 million cap number would help make the complicated trade math work in a three-team deal.
via Only time will tell if Mavs have what it takes to win out West - NBA - CBSSports.com Basketball.

Saturday night, Chris Broussard confirmed the report and added a few more specific names to the deal being discussed: 

In the proposed trade, New York would send Anthony Randolph and Eddy Curry to Minnesota and the Timberwolves would send Corey Brewer and a first-round pick to Denver. Denver would also receive Wilson Chandler from New York. The deal is not expected to happen until the middle of next week at the earliest, and one source said it could drag out until the trade deadline. Denver, which has been exchanging proposals with the Knicks for the past couple weeks, is weighing other options.

via Sources: New York Knicks, Denver Nuggets, Minnesota Timberwolves discuss Carmelo deal - ESPN New York.

Ken Berger reports Saturday night that the deal has not progressed further since his report Friday afternoon. 


This deal isn't a disaster. In a way, everyone gets what they want: 

  • The Knicks get Melo.
  • The Timberwolves get Anthony Randolph who they inexplicably want. 
  • The Nuggets get a viable veteran wing to fill-in for Melo in the hopes of keeping them in the playoff race. They also get Corey Brewer who's a capable wing defender and still young.  The first round pick is a nice asset as well. 


But there is some context here. The Knicks get away free here, turning Wilson Chandler, Eddy Curry and Anthony Randolph into Carmelo Anthony, which they've been after since the summer. The Wolves, though? Despite continuing issues between Brewer and his agent and Wolves' management, giving up on Brewer and a first rounder just to get Anthony Randolph and a little bit of cap space is a pretty steep deal. But the worst of this comes for Denver. 

Should Denver accept this deal or be forced to accept this deal to avoid losing Melo for nothing, they go from the Nets' offer of Devin Harris, three first rounders and Derrick Favors for Melo and Chauncey Billups to Wilson Chandler, Corey Brewer, and one first rounder. That's a terrible downgrade in return. It would represent a tremendous loss of leverage if the Nuggets are cornered into this deal. The Nuggets had reportedly held the Knicks at arms-length based on their lack of assets. Thanks to the Wolves and Mikhail Prokhorov's cutting off talks, Donnie Walsh may have found a way to get Melo at the right price after all. 

Kahn worked under Walsh with the Indiana Pacers from 1995 until 2004. 
Posted on: February 6, 2011 2:00 am
Edited on: February 6, 2011 2:02 am
 

Wolves involved in latest N.Y. Melo talks

Knicks moving in closer on Carmelo Anthony. Again. Yes, it's different this time. We think.
Posted by Matt Moore

On Friday in his Post-Ups, Ken Berger shared the following update to the Knicks' pursuit of Carmelo Anthony: 


While the Nuggets realize they will have to seriously engage the Knicks in trade talks for Anthony before the Feb. 24 deadline, a third team already has stepped into the on-deck circle as a potential facilitator if talks between Denver and New York ever gain traction. That team, sources say, is the Timberwolves, who are willing to absorb Eddy Curry's $11.3 million expiring contract in a three-team scenario that would send Anthony Randolph to Minnesota and Anthony to New York. In this scenario, which one executive involved deemed "unlikely," the Wolves would simply waive Curry after the trade. Depending on the timing, Curry would likely have only five paychecks remaining for a total of $4.7 million. So taking on Curry would involve little or no cost to Minnesota; if the Wolves could negotiate a $3 million buyout covering the remainder of Curry's salary, that tab would be fully picked up by the Knicks, who could send as much as $3 million cash to Minnesota in the trade. But Curry's $11.3 million cap number would help make the complicated trade math work in a three-team deal.
via Only time will tell if Mavs have what it takes to win out West - NBA - CBSSports.com Basketball.

Saturday night, Chris Broussard confirmed the report and added a few more specific names to the deal being discussed: 

In the proposed trade, New York would send Anthony Randolph and Eddy Curry to Minnesota and the Timberwolves would send Corey Brewer and a first-round pick to Denver. Denver would also receive Wilson Chandler from New York. The deal is not expected to happen until the middle of next week at the earliest, and one source said it could drag out until the trade deadline. Denver, which has been exchanging proposals with the Knicks for the past couple weeks, is weighing other options.

via Sources: New York Knicks, Denver Nuggets, Minnesota Timberwolves discuss Carmelo deal - ESPN New York.

Ken Berger reports Saturday night that the deal has not progressed further since his report Friday afternoon. 


This deal isn't a disaster. In a way, everyone gets what they want: 

  • The Knicks get Melo.
  • The Timberwolves get Anthony Randolph who they inexplicably want. 
  • The Nuggets get a viable veteran wing to fill-in for Melo in the hopes of keeping them in the playoff race. They also get Corey Brewer who's a capable wing defender and still young.  The first round pick is a nice asset as well. 


But there is some context here. The Knicks get away free here, turning Wilson Chandler, Eddy Curry and Anthony Randolph into Carmelo Anthony, which they've been after since the summer. The Wolves, though? Despite continuing issues between Brewer and his agent and Wolves' management, giving up on Brewer and a first rounder just to get Anthony Randolph and a little bit of cap space is a pretty steep deal. But the worst of this comes for Denver. 

Should Denver accept this deal or be forced to accept this deal to avoid losing Melo for nothing, they go from the Nets' offer of Devin Harris, three first rounders and Derrick Favors for Melo and Chauncey Billups to Wilson Chandler, Corey Brewer, and one first rounder. That's a terrible downgrade in return. It would represent a tremendous loss of leverage if the Nuggets are cornered into this deal. The Nuggets had reportedly held the Knicks at arms-length based on their lack of assets. Thanks to the Wolves and Mikhail Prokhorov's cutting off talks, Donnie Walsh may have found a way to get Melo at the right price after all. 

Kahn worked under Walsh with the Indiana Pacers from 1995 until 2004. 
Posted on: January 27, 2011 9:37 am
 

Shootaround 1.27.11: Zipcodes

Hornets' fans plight, Chandler does not wish NY flight, the Cavs have no fight, and a Sixers mascot sight. All this and more in today's Shootaround. 
Posted by Matt Moore

An interesting question, to be taken only in the abstract. Is it fair for the fans in New Orleans to have to check attendance figures every two years and put together the kind of effort needed to meet the mark to avoid the escape clause?  A writer at Yahoo! points out that it will simply take more time for the city to embrace the Hornets in the same way they have the Saints, who have been there for about 30 years longer. These things take time. Regardless of whether it's fair or not, that's the situation the Hornets will continue to face until a new ownership system is place that is committed to the area long-term and the economy starts to pick up. 

Attempting to appreciate Stan Van Gundy. The fact that SVG gets so much flak considering his pretty incredible record of success is stunning.

Well played on that photo, Orlando Sentinel.

Danny Granger at the deadline could be a huge playoff difference maker if someone can get him from a continually reeling Pacers club. 

Why are the Cavs this bad? Some interesting questions on team building and the cost of not drafting well, regardless of contender status. 

Folks in Seattle still say it is a basketball town

Via the 700 Level, here's an image of the Sixers mascot bowling... himself. 



Kahn is "absolutely sure" Rubio is joining the Wolves, eventually.  Kahn being right will vindicate him to an enormous degree and buy him considerable time in his gig. Being wrong would be catastrophic. At the end of it, I still wonder about committing so much to a guy who doesn't "actively" want to be there.  More on this later. 

Wilson Chandler may have switched agents to Happy Walters, who is an interesting man, and who also represents Amar'e Stoudemire, to avoid being traded

Rodney Stuckey "felt something pop" last night, which can't be good. 
 
 
 
 
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