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Posted on: December 12, 2011 10:59 pm
Posted by Royce Young
After the NBA's ridiculous handling of the Chris Paul situation in New Orleans, a lot of people have felt the need to vent. I know I have. I caught myself yelling at my dog yesterday saying things like, "How dare the NBA intervene and manipulate the league!"
Steve Kerr though, has a much bigger voice and when he talks, a lot more people than a dog listen up. Kerr is a TNT analyst now, but was the Phoenix Suns general manager for a number of years and a prominant player on a couple of Michael Jordan's championship Bulls. He knows the inside of the business. He knows how it all works. And he is fired up about the way the NBA blocked CP3's trade to the Lakers, most notably about Dan Gilbert who sent an email to David Stern the day it happened complaining about it. Via Sports Radio Interviews:
"It's such a crock that he would even mention that. That guy is a billionaire, they have been way over the cap while they had LeBron, way over the tax. He's still upset that he lost LeBron and he needs to get over it. LeBron gave that franchise the best seven years they have ever had. He was a free agent and he decided to leave. Nobody likes the way LeBron left, even he apologized for it the other night on TV but the fact is there is a thing called free agency and if a superstar player wants to leave when they are agents, they can leave."Tell us how you really feel, Steve.
But he couldn't be more right. Gilbert was complaining about things like the luxury tax and how the Lakers were going to save money, therefore cutting into the revenue shared with small market teams like his Cavs. Gilbert said that 25 teams were the Washington Generals. He's basically been playing quite the woe-is-me thing ever since LeBron left the Cavs.
Kerr on the trade itself:
"Every one of them is wrong and I don't know how many there are either but I've been angry all day long about this whole thing because I think it was a great basketball trade. There are so many trades made these days that are lousy trades that are made for financial purposes ... The problem I have is that this was a great trade for the Hornets.First, I love that Kerr acknowledges how bad the Thomas trade was. He made it to save Robert Sarver some money, but that deal ended up giving then Seattle and now the Thunder, two first round picks, one of which turned into Serge Ibaka. Like he said, why didn't the league intervene with that?
The point with this whole thing is, is that the league shouldn't have such a heavy hand here. Yes, the NBA owns the Hornets. But it's also supposed to oversee the league and make sure things stay fair. It's supposed to stay out of the way. For as much as the NBA preached competitive balance, they sure have stuck their thumb out and intentionally hurt the Rockets and Lakers. It's not fair and it's got people like Steve Kerr angry.
I would say that it's going to be awkward when TNT does a Cavs game, but we all know that nobody is wasting a national television game on the Cavs. Unless LeBron's coming to town. The truth hurts, huh Dan?
Posted on: December 12, 2011 9:25 pm
Edited on: December 12, 2011 9:28 pm
Posted by Ben Golliver.
The ceaseless on-again, off-again trade talks involving New Orleans Hornets All-Star point guard Chris Paul are reportedly back on. Monday night, round two with the Los Angeles Clippers commenced.
ESPN.com reported that talks between the league-owned Hornets and Clippers have officially resurrected after being declared dead earlier on Monday.
After a seemingly imminent trade routing Paul to the Clippers collapsed earlier Monday, sources told ESPN.com that the league officials negotiating on the Hornets' behalf had aggressively re-engaged the Clippers in talks in hopes of completing a deal as soon as Tuesday.Ken Berger of CBSSports.com reported that a source said: "The league has no choice. They have nowhere else to go."
Earlier trade talks had the Clippers sending center Chris Kaman, point guard Eric Bledsoe, forward Al-Farouq Aminu and the Minnesota Timberwolves' 2012 first round pick pick to the Hornets for Paul. Other reported versions of the trade talks also included guard Eric Gordon. The talks reportedly fell apart when the Clippers felt NBA commissioner David Stern, who possesses final authority on personnel moves for the Hornets, was asking too high a price for Paul.
Some variation of the reported package would give the paper-thin Hornets multiple players to plug in as starters plus an excellent building block chip in the 2012 pick. The Clippers are looking to find a premier perimeter player to pair with forward sensation Blake Griffin, recently re-signed center DeAndre Jordan and, ideally, retain Gordon, who is a potential future All-Star at shooting guard.
The Clippers also claimed veteran point guard Chauncey Billups in an amnesty bidding pool on Monday.
Posted on: December 12, 2011 5:13 pm
Edited on: December 12, 2011 5:34 pm
Posted by Royce Young
It's not good to be Dell Demps right now. He's officially the general manager of the New Orleans Hornets, the guy in charge of all transactions and roster decisions of the franchise.
But he might as well be a ballboy. Maybe a ballboy with every NBA GM on speed dial, but that's about the only edge he has at this point.
After Demps has watched three of his trades for Chris Paul fall apart because the NBA wouldn't approve (two Lakers, one Clippers), Demps has to be frustrated. And as Yahoo! Sports reports, he's merely just along for the ride now.
A lot of people have described this thing as a mess, circus or complete cluster. Choose your word and it probably fits. It's ridiculous, frustrating, maddening and downright stupid. The league has a serious conflict of interest here and two NBA executives are the ones running the show. Does that not completely blow your mind?
It might be one thing if this was all over Jarrett Jack or Quincy Pondexter. But this is about Chris Paul. This is about a deal that will completely alter the landscape of the NBA. And it's a deal that should have been done almost a week ago.
Instead, Big Brother is watching over the Hornets and completely cutting off Demps' manhood. The league said a deal in which Demps put together receiving Lamar Odom, Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Goran Dragic and some picks wasn't enough. The league wanted Eric Gordon, Eric Bledsoe, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu and the very valuable Minnesota 2012 pick, but the Clippers said it was too much.
Basically we're getting the NBA labor negotiations all over again but instead of BRI and mid-level exceptions, we've got Chris Paul and some draft picks.
It might not all be completely over though. Ken Berger of CBSSports.com reports the league and Clippers are trying to revive a deal. However, as Berger tweeted around 5:30 p.m. ET, "it's over." ESPN.com reports though the league is hopeful the deal will be resolved soon.
So do we. So does Chris Paul. And most especially, so does Dell Demps.
Posted on: December 12, 2011 4:00 am
Edited on: December 12, 2011 2:22 pm
By Matt Moore
2:25 p.m.: Ken Berger of CBSSports.com reports that the deal has "died" according to a source. The consensus among reports is that the league demanded too much. At this point it's unclear what exactly they're looking for since any combination on the table was good enough to justify the trade. The nonsense continues.
1:52 p.m.: Now, just like that, according to multiple outlets, the deal is pretty much off. Apparently the NBA's asking price is just far too steep for the Clippers.
10:10 a.m.: And the confusion continues. Yahoo now reports Gordon is not included in the deal, as the L.A. Times reported last night. No word on Bledsoe.
Update 9:00 a.m.: ESPN is reporting that A. Eric Gordon is included in the package and B. Eric Bledsoe is not, which may cause the league to reject. Neither of these statements make sense, so something must get clarified in the next few hours. We'll keep you updated.
The Los Angeles Times reports that the L.A. Clippers are "close" to a deal for Chris Paul, just days after talks with the Lakers fell apart and less than a week after the league rejected an offer from the Lakers agreed to in a three-way with New Orleans and Houston.
The Clippers and the New Orleans Hornets were working vigorously Sunday night to consummate a blockbuster deal that would send All-Star point guard Chris Paul to Los Angeles to play for the Lakers' cross-town rivals, said two people with knowledge of the situation who were not authorized to speak on the matter.via Clippers are close to deal for Chris Paul with Hornets - latimes.com.
SI.com notes that Clippers point guard Eric Bledsoe told associates that he was headed to New Orleans.
A huge element here is that Eric Gordon is not included in the deal as constructed, which leads to two questions:
A. Is that enough for the league not to block the trade?
B. How good would that team be?
In reverse, you'd be looking at the best pure point guard in the league teamed with the most devastating pick and roll power forward in the conference and a near-All-Star perimeter scorer. In, short, it's terrifying how instantly good that team gets, with DeAndre Jordan (should the Clippers match the $44 million offer sheet from Golden State) and Caron Butler (even criminally overpaid). The Clippers would shake off their reputation for once.
But is it enough? The absence of Gordon might be a deal breaker. He's a young star. Great. Excellent. Near All-Star. But not an All-Star, and not worth CP3. His absence isn't justified by his talent, but his talent might necessitate his involvement.
The deal would have huge ramifications across the league, particularly for teams like Boston and Los Angeles, both vying for the All-Star point guard. The Hornets would get the kind of package they actually need, versus the veteran platter of above-average-but-not-great, aging players they were picking up in the Lakers-Rockets tree-way. Al Farouq-Amnu is a hyper-athletic freak with polish, Bledsoe showed great flashes last year, and Kaman would serve as an excellent expiring contract at the deadline. The picks they would pick up would be in one of the best draft classes in the past decade, and they could very well end up with two top-five picks in a stellar class. A combination of Anthony Davis and Bradley Beal or Harrison Barnes, for example, could put New Orleans on the path to recovery very quickly.
In short, both teams would win here, even if the package doesn't "seem" better.
The only question now is if they can cross the finish line and shock the world. The Clippers are on the verge of changing the culture of the NBA with three little characters: CP3.
Posted on: December 11, 2011 7:50 pm
Edited on: December 11, 2011 7:55 pm
Posted by Royce Young
Chris Paul might be going to Los Angeles after all. Might even be playing in Staples Center.
No, not with the Lakers, but with their roommate, the Los Angeles Clippers. According to ESPN.com, the Clips are on a short list of teams Paul would approve of being traded to Los Angeles to team up with Blake Griffin. But that's only if the Lakers or Knicks can't swing a deal for him. Which at this point, appears unlikely.
The Lakers had a three-way deal worked out to bring Paul to Los Angeles before David Stern and the NBA vetoed it for so-called "basketball reasons." Talks re-engaged, but felt apart again Saturday night when the Hornets reportedly asked for too much. A piece in the trade, Lamar Odom, was then sent to Dallas for a trade exception, essentially busting any chance a deal would go through.
The Clippers understand though that it's a risk to trade for Paul as any team that acquires him runs the risk of him not signing an extension. He likely wouldn't sign one as under the new collective bargaining agreement rules, it's better for a player to wait until his deal runs out and sign a contract in free agency.
Interesting twist to that in this case though: The Clippers aren't asking for Paul to sign an extension yet. All they want is for him to pick up the player option on his contract for 2012-13. That would postpone his free agency one more year. And if CP3 is willing to do that, the Clippers would evidently be open to deal their top two most highly prized assets in Eric Gordon and Minnesota's unprotected 2012 No. 1 pick.
That's very important stuff.
The only way anyone can really see the Clippers landing Paul would be to part with Gordon and the Wolves unprotected pick. And if the Clips were willing to part with those, it's a very real possibility that CP3 could be headed to Clipperland sometime this week.
According to the report, the Hornets have already asked the Clippers for Gordon, Chris Kaman, Eric Bledsoe, Al-Farouq Aminu and at least two future first-round picks for CP3. That's a whole lot of cheese right there. Probably a little too steep for the Clippers, in fact.
But that's more the deal the league evidently is interested in after vetoing the original deal. The original three-way trade with Houston that brought Lamar Odom, Luis Scola, Goran Dragic and Kevin Martin to New Orleans allowed the Hornets to stay competitive. This new scenario allows them to get younger and rebuild, which apparently is the league's desire.
The Clippers deal is better in my mind, but it's a matter of if the Clips are willing to pay that kind of price just to get Paul for maybe two seasons. Teaming him with Blake Griffin is of course a very exciting prospect, but Gordon is a top 10 scorer with a ton of upside still, Minnesota's pick is maybe the most valuable asset in the league (it could very well turn into Anthony Davis), and Eric Bledsoe is a promising young point guard. That's a whole lot to pay, even for a player of CP3's caliber.
If the Hornets were able to swing this deal, I would give it up to Stern and the league, because it's undeniably better. But it's a big if at this point. Mainly because we're talking about the Clippers here and the fact that Chris Paul would have to buy into them long-term. Seems pretty iffy still to me.
Posted on: December 11, 2011 3:01 pm
Edited on: December 11, 2011 3:56 pm
Posted by Ben Golliver.
An All-Star bolted from the New Orleans Hornets on Sunday, but it wasn't Chris Paul.
David West, a 2-time All-Star power forward, has agreed to a 2-year contract worth $20 million with the Indiana Pacers, Yahoo Sports and NBA.com reported. Ken Berger of CBSSports.com has confirmed the deal.
"David is ready to help them win a championship," agent Lance Young told NBA.com.
"David looks at the Pacers as a good young team with lot of potential," Young told the Indianapolis Star.
The deal comes after a rumored sign-and-trade between the Hornets and Boston Celtics failed to reach completion. That deal reportedly would have sent veteran center Jermaine O'Neal and pieces to the Hornets in exchange for West; it also reportedly would have paid West $24 million over three years, according to Berger.
West was ranked as the No. 3 free agent on CBSSports.com's top-40 free agents list, behind only Denver Nuggets center Nene Hilario and Memphis Grizzlies center Marc Gasol.
The Pacers were one of a few teams that entered the free agency period with significant cap space, and they put it to good use here. $10 million for West at this point is a fair price, assuming he is fully healthy, and keeping the deal at two years is excellent protection against statistical decline due to aging. He plugs into a frontcourt that already boasts Danny Granger and center Roy Hibbert, giving the Pacers a nice complement of toughness, perimeter versatility and scoring.
That, plus reserve bigs Jeff Foster and Tyler Hansbrough and a talented backcourt featuring George Hill, Paul George and Darren Collison, gives the Pacers have a very talented and balanced core group.
Indiana is also reportedly working to swing a deal for Memphis Grizzlies guard O.J. Mayo, according to ESPN.com. All told, the West signing and a trade for Mayo could vault Indiana several notches up the Eastern Conference standings, where they finished as the No. 8 seed last season. A best case scenario could see Indiana competing for home court advantage in the first round of the playoffs.
West, 31, averaged 18.9 points and 7.6 rebounds per game last season for the Hornets, the only NBA team he has played for during his 8-year NBA career. The 2-time All-Star tore his ACL back in March but decided to opt out anyway. He was declared healthy in October.
Posted on: December 11, 2011 12:01 am
Edited on: December 11, 2011 2:03 am
Posted by Ben Golliver.
The Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers trade proposal has blown up.
After three days of negotiations that reportedly included two potential 3-team trade frameworks that would have sent the New Orleans Hornets All-Star point guard to the Lakers, word on Saturday night is that Los Angeles has abandoned those talks to head in a different direction.
ESPN.com and DraftExpress.com both reported that the Lakers have pulled out of the 3-team discussions, which also included the Houston Rockets. ESPN.com further reported that the Lakers will trade forward Lamar Odom to the Dallas Mavericks, who earlier received a large trade exception in return for trading center Tyson Chandler to the New York Knicks, in exchange for "unspecified draft considerations." The Dallas Morning News later reported that the pick will be top-20 protected with the Mavericks having six years to decide when to turn it over to the Lakers.
Ken Berger of CBSSports.com confirms that the Lakers are "out of the Chris Paul talks and will trade Lamar Odom to Dallas into exception created by Tyson Chandler." Odom's 2011-2012 salary of $8.9 million easily fits into the 8-figure trade exception created by Chandler's departure.
If the Lakers really do move Odom, a key rotation member and solid value, simply to acquire a trade exception and picks, then all signs point to this being a set-up move prior to pursuing another trade, perhaps one including Orlando Magic All-Star center Dwight Howard, a long-time rumored Lakers target. On Friday, Berger reported that the Magic had given Howard's agent permission to speak with the Lakers.
Another possible explanation for the trade: Odom's state of mind. After being involed in the Paul trade rumors, Odom did not attend Lakers training camp on Friday, instead meeting with Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak and then departing the team's practice facility, according to the Los Angeles Times.
"To me, I would think it's better to stay away," Odom told the paper. "You know, the energy and all. I don't know how it's going to go right now. It's a little weird."
The Lakers' decision to give up their pursuit of Paul comes two days after NBA commissioner David Stern stepped in to veto one 3-team trade proposal and hours after reports indicated that the teams had submitted another proposal for his approval. It also comes hours after Berger reported that a "framework of revamped trade agreement" had been reached among the parties, one that was "pending approval of the commissioner."
Saturday's offer would have seen the Houston Rockets send Kevin Martin, Luis Scola and a draft pick to New Orleans, as they had in Thursday's original offer, but would have included further deal tweaks will occur between the Lakers and Hornets. The original proposal also had the Lakers sending All-Star big man Pau Gasol to the Rockets and Odom to the Hornets.
The New York Times reported on Friday that the league urged the Hornets to get a "better, younger package" in exchange for Paul to ensure long-term success for the struggling franchise after Stern nixed the original move in his role as overseer of the league-owned Hornets. The NBA initially said the trade had been vetoed for "basketball reasons" and issued a full statement on Friday morning.
"We decided, free from the influence of other NBA owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets uniform than by the outcome of the terms of that trade," Stern's statement read.
Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert sent a letter to Stern that called the proposed trade a "travesty" while players criticized Stern for stepping in to block the trade.