Posted on: July 8, 2010 3:04 pm
Edited on: July 8, 2010 4:23 pm
Posted by Matt Moore
As KB dropped on us a few minutes ago , the Charlotte Bobcats have been pulled into talks with the Heat and Raptors about the Chris Bosh sign-and-trade. With Miami clearing space to try and land you-know-who, the Bobcats have been pulled into talks to take on a player, which Toronto is unwilling to do.
(Read about the whole deal here from KB .)
The Cats would be taking on Mike Beasley under the proposed deal, one that is curious in many ways for Larry Brown's team. It means ditching Tyson Chandler leaving them perilously thin at center, and adding another SF/PF combo in the same vein as Gerald Wallace, only not as versatile, complete, or basketball-intelligent. It also may likely end Tyrus Thomas' time in Charlotte, though a combo of the two would be interesting... in a lot of ways.
Beasley is considered nearly radioactive at this point, but so was Tyrus Thomas when Larry Brown decided to bring him into the fold. This move echoes a continuing sentiment that Brown is undertaking players who are thought to be lost causes, players who he himself had no time for a few years ago. Ditching Chandler would clear quite a bit of space for the Bobcats who are up against the luxury tax wall pretty hard and getting shaken down, all for a roster nowhere close to title contention.
Beasle's a high-risk, low-reward type player from a basketball standpoint, but clearing Chandler may also leave them the ability to pursue a younger, more athletic center like Joel Anthony for a much lower price.
One thing's for certain. The Bobcats are continuing full-force with their reformation-through-trade strategy if they can worm their way into this deal.
Posted on: July 8, 2010 2:22 pm
Edited on: July 8, 2010 3:11 pm
Posted by Royce Young
A few interesting things from CBSSports.com's Ken Berger:
Posted on: July 8, 2010 2:00 pm
Edited on: July 8, 2010 7:56 pm
Posted by Royce Young
Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade are teaming in Miami . That piece of the puzzle has been placed. That means the Miami Heat currently have four players on the roster, not counting the Joel Anthony. I'm no James Naismith here, but from my knowledge of basketball, I think it takes at least five to field a team.
Currently, the Heat have only about $11 million on the books including Anthony's million dollar qualifying offer. Assuming Wade signs a max deal, that number goes to something like $28 million. Bring in Bosh in a sign-and-trade (or just a regular free agent deal) and you're looking at something a little under $45 million. And with the cap rising to over $58 million, which was entirely unexpected, things look a little better for the Heat. However, still with the current contracts on the books, the Heat don't have enough cap room to offer LeBron , Wade and Bosh all max deals. They'll have to take a paycut , of about $1 million. So instead of making $16.5 million, they'll make $15.5. How terrible for them.
Now of course a way around that would be by unloading Michael Beasley to someone for little or nothing. That would be enough to free up for three max deals, however, that's one more roster spot that needs filling, plus the Heat probably won't get a player of Beasley's caliber to fill it.
So what do they do after that? They've maxed out their cap room, yet have to fill seven more roster spots, if you assume the Heat match Anthony's qualifying offer. The NBA requires 13 players on an active roster, and if the Heat sign the big three, that'll give them six players (Mario Chalmers, Michael Beasley, Wade, Bosh, LeBron and Anthony). Since the Heat will be at the cap threshold, they've have to fill out the depth chart by signing minimum salary players - seven of them - to field a legal team.
The first and most obvious option is for Miami to sign its second-round picks . The Heat took Dexter Pittman, Jarvis Vanardo and Da'Sean Butler in the second round. So there's a center, a power forward and a small forward right there. See, this is all working out! But those second rounders wouldn’t require a bunch of money and would serve as some nice depth on the back end of that roster. Those three guys aren’t bad players by any means. So now they're lacking just four more players.
They could re-sign James Jones (who they bought out just a month ago) to veteran minimum deal. And then go grab three more veteran players that might be looking to latch on to a team just to sit on the bench and make a championship run. Dan Marino and Karl Malone are listening intently right now.
Honestly, the Heat could make this work. I don't know how realistic a chance of winning this kind of make-shift roster would have, but it definitely could work.
But what if that doesn’t happen and LeBron goes elsewhere? Adrian Wojnarowski reported yesterday that if the Heat can't lure LeBron , they'll immediately look at other options, one being a deal for Andre Miller and/or Rudy Fernandez. The Heat talked with Portland since before the draft about a deal sending Chalmers and a first-round pick to Portland for Fernandez, but as Wojnarowski reports, those talks possibly have expanded to include Beasley and Miller.
That is an immediate upgrade for the Heat and gives Wade and Bosh a pedigreed creator and distributor for them. But what other alternatives are there, other than just saying forget it and playing with four?
The Heat could l ook at the remaining pool of free agents . They'll have about $15 million to play with and they surely don't want eight minimum players to play with Bosh and Wade. And lucky for them, there are still good options out there. Brendan Haywood is available, but he's going to want somewhere in the ballpark of at least three years, $10 million. Zydrunas Illgauskas, Shaq or Luis Scola are still out there too.
Raymond Felton would be a fit at point guard and likely won't sign for more than the MLE. Also, there's Nate Robinson who's unrestricted. The Heat could re-sign Udonis Haslem , who is an excellent role player and would probably fit well next to Bosh. Small forwards like Matt Barnes or Josh Howard would fit. All those would surely sign under the MLE, so that'd be something like $4-5 million. Mike Miller doesn't have a team yet and he wouldn't require a ton of money. There's still a number of players out there to be grabbed. Heck, maybe bring Tim Hardaway and Alonzo Mourning out of retirement, I don't know. The thing is, Miami doesn’t want to spend big here, but surely want a contributor. The Heat aren’t building for the future – these moves are to win now .
The Heat won't be dead in the water without LeBron . Bosh plus Wade, plus a cast of quality role players can surely be a winning combination. Lots of reports say LeBron is leaning towards joining forces with Wade and Bosh in Miami, but we’ll have wait until “The Decision” to find that out.
The third option would be... um, third... well, I guess utilize the D-League, sign some 10-day contracts and just play out 82 games that way. The roster has to be filled out somehow. The NBA requires at least 13 active players. Right now, Miami has two/three including Anthony. After Bosh and Wade officially sign, four. And after The Decision, maybe five. Regardless, I'd say they have some work to do yet.
Posted on: July 8, 2010 1:24 pm
Edited on: July 8, 2010 7:57 pm
Posted by Matt Moore
Alan Hahn was at the presser for the introduction of Amar'e Stoudemire today in New York, and caught this very interesting comment from James Dolan:
Dolan: "It takes courage to play where the lights shine brightest."
Maybe that's just a benign soundbite to fill the time. Or maybe it's a challenge to LeBron to accept his fate as the biggest star in the world and that he should embrace the responsibility of being that star. Or, it could be that Dolan expects him to go elsewhere and wants to get a potshot in at James for not opting for the Big Apple. Oh, what a tangled web you weave, Knickerbockers!
Posted on: July 8, 2010 1:11 pm
Edited on: July 8, 2010 7:58 pm
Posted by Matt Moore
The Boys and Girls Club of Greenwich is having itself quite the day. Fox CT in Conneticut is there filing live reports and the sattelite trucks are already jamming the parking lot. Fans have arrived. I'm pretty sure I saw an elephant tap dance through one of the live shots. I thought I saw the bearded lady, but it turns out it was just Drew Gooden. (It was not Drew Gooden, I just made that up. See? That's how easy it is to start a LeBron rumor.)
ESPN has hired 10 off-duty cops for security . I'm sure that's going to be a fun job. If I'm the greater Greenwich area and I have access to either bottled water or cold beer, I'm heading down there to make a profit.
It's a ridiculous scene that we had to expect. I would anticipate we'll start seeing other news organizations filing reports from Greenwich soon. What would be great is if ESPN had a crew outside reporting from the scene outside of the scene that they themselves are hosting inside. It's meta, man. So meta.
Please make this day end soon. The hype is going to devour us all.
Posted on: July 8, 2010 1:09 pm
Edited on: July 8, 2010 1:13 pm
Posted by Royce Young
Adrian Wojnarowski reports that Jermaine O'Neal, most recently of the Miami Heat, will sign with Boston .
O'Neal is a 13-year veteran that averaged 13.6 points per game and 6.9 rebounds per game last season in Miami. He'll add a lot of frontcourt strength to the Celtics, who need help after Rasheed Wallace announced his retirement. Currently, O'Neal will team with Glen Davis, Kendrick Perkins and Kevin Garnett on the front lines for Boston.
O'Neal is a former All-Star that's most known for his interior defense and shot-blocking, though he's never been a bad offensive player by any means. Plus, he's a little on the rugged side, so he'll likely fit right in to Doc Rivers' physical defensive system as an enforcer.
Terms of the deal haven't been released yet.
Posted on: July 8, 2010 12:03 pm
Edited on: July 8, 2010 8:00 pm
Posted by Royce Young
Brian Windhorst of the Cleveland Plain Dealer tweeted at around 11:30 a.m. ET that the Cavs were in active trade talks with the Timberwolves to acquire point guard Jonny Flynn. Flynn is represented by LeBron's agent as well as LRMR, LeBron's marketing firm.
Two interesting things here: 1) Can Cleveland really sway LeBron's decision at this point with a trade like this? Is that the reasoning behind it? Or are they already trying to move on? Regardless, obviously the major, most pressing concern for LeBron in returning to Cleveland is the supporting cast. So the Cavs are trying to remedy that by grabbing a promising young point guard. Makes sense. But this is like 11th hour stuff here. Maybe LeBron already knew about these talks a week ago. Maybe the Cavs promised LeBron they were going to be active in the trade market to improve the team. Or again, maybe they're trying to move on. Who knows. Well, we'll know in about nine hours I guess.
2) David Kahn trading a point guard? So maybe that's why the Wolves talked with Luke Ridnour. Can't just trade Flynn away and then have a reasonable amount of point men, no. Kahn's got to have his garage full of them. But seriously though, trading Flynn could potentially open up the door to bring Ricky Rubio over in the next few years. Rubio was miffed when the Wolves drafted Flynn. Maybe clearing that spot could help relations a bit. This could actually make a little sense. That is until we see the deal is probably for Mo Williams and Daniel Gibson.
Whatever the case, if this trade happens, it'll add a little more drama to a day that's already chock full of it. And that's really what we need, right?
Posted on: July 8, 2010 11:54 am
Posted by Matt Moore
Let's call it. The New Jersey Nets are off the board for LeBron James. We knew this probably by Tuesday, (or when they fell to third in the lottery, really) but today it pretty much became official. The Nets have agreed to terms with small forward Travis Outlaw on a 5-year, $35 million deal according to ESPN. The deal will give the Nets some much needed depth at a postion they've given up space at in an attempt to sign a max free-agent, which of course, they did not. It's kind of a big amount to be giving a default option, but Outlaw is certainly capable, is a veteran that knows what he's doing, and shores up the position. With Derrick Favors so raw, they needed some experience at the forward spot in between Favors and second-year man Terrence Williams.
Not exactly the brilliant star signing Mikhail Prokhorov probably hoped would start his tenure as owner.
Outlaw averaged 14 points on less than 40% shooting last year , being traded midseason to the Clippers in the Marcus Camby deal. He's only 26 this season, so he's got some upside, but it certainly seems like a resigned kind of signing to put that much money into a player that doesn't help take the Nets from the worst record to anything repspectable on his own.