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Posted on: November 14, 2011 12:56 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Week 11

Posted by Bryan Fischer

The latest college football polls are out and now it's time to rip them to shreds. Senior college basketball writer Gary Parrish has been calling out voters in the major hoops polls for thinking a little bit too far outside of the box when it comes to their AP ballots every week.

With the football season starting, I thought I'd steal take the baton on the idea from my colleague and keep all of the writers across the country who vote honest. I've come to know a good number of these people through time and twitter but relationships do not matter, bad votes do.

AP Poll           Coaches Poll           Harris Poll           BCS

(Details of AP ballots courtesy of PollSpeak.com)

Poll reactions: ACC, Big East, Big 12, Pac-12

Rodney Dangerfield "No respect" team(s) of the week: USC, Wisconsin

  Two teams find themselves in this spot this week, which is very hard to do considering the majority of teams outside of the top 10 could be considered overrated. The Trojans have a legitimate gripe about being 18th, the lowest they've been in the polls at 8-2 in the school's illustrious history. Throttling a previously ranked Washington team did nothing to impress anybody it seems, holding the Huskies powerful offense to 17 points and running back Chris Polk to just 36 yards on the ground. The offense with Matt Barkley and Robert Woods is humming and the defense is finally looking solid. Though the Big Ten as a whole is a mess this year, Wisconsin is getting no love as the 15th ranked team. They're two hail mary's from being undefeated and destroyed a ranked Nebraska team earlier in the season. The offense is among the most balanced in the country and the defense has been superb outside of the last play of the game.

Overrated: Florida State

  The bottom of the top 25 has so many teams to put in this spot it's hard to pick just one. But we'll settle on the Seminoles who are ranked thanks to a win over a mediocre Miami team on Saturday. Two of their seven wins are against non-BCS teams, four are against ACC teams in the bottom half of the conference in total defense and the other one is against a just plain terrible N.C. State team. It's not an impressive resume and like, say Notre Dame, they should wait to be ranked.

California Craziness

A trio of voters from California (CSN Bay Area/CBSSports.com's Ray Ratto, San Jose Mercury News' Jon Wilner, LA Daily News' Scott Wolf) are an interesting voting block. Some would call them progressive, others would call them extreme and just about everybody else will call them crazy given their fluctuations in their ballots each week. All three are consistently in Pollspeak's group of "extreme voters" so we'll highlight the most baffling decision(s) out of each.

  Had a chance to talk to both Ratto and Wilner this weekend at Stanford and had a pleasant conversation with them both (no hard feelings from anybody but don't think we didn't notice you put FCS team Georgia Southern 25th Ray). Either way, Wolf takes the honor in this spot this week after being the only person to put Boise State number one last week. He moved the Broncos down to 9th after their loss which is ok but having Cincinnati 18th, Georgia Tech 20th, Auburn ranked at all, TCU unranked and Houston 16th are not ok.

What were you thinking? Tom Murphy, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

  The Coaches put Virginia Tech ahead of Clemson, even though the Tigers own the head-to-head win, for the third week in a row so there's that. But Mr. Murphy fins himself in this spot heading into week 12. Arkansas is the highest ranked one-loss team which is fine but what isn't is Georgia 8th and Stanford 11th. The Cardinal was ranked in the top four last week and yet fall behind a two-loss Bulldogs team that hasn't played anybody good as they've built their win streak up? Undefeated Houston is down at 18th, Florida State is 20th (see above), he has Virginia ranked higher than anyone and Penn State isn't even ranked while Notre Dame and Georgia Tech occupy the bottom two spots of Murphy's ballot. Also, Craig James voted Boise State 25th so there's that.

Posted on: November 14, 2011 10:22 am
 

ACC poll reactions, Week 11

Posted by Chip Patterson

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the ACC fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches)

7/8. Clemson

Losses to undefeated Boise State and Stanford gave the Tigers a window of opportunity to move up in the polls. However, Clemson nearly took that opportunity away from themselves with a 31-28 scare from Wake Forest in Death Valley on Saturday. The Tigers were forced to rally back from a two-score second half deficit after giving up 21 points in a five minute span during the third quarter. Wake Forest's undersized defense found ways to frustrate quarterback Tajh Boyd early, but the talented sophomore made adjustments and led two impressive fourth quarter drives - the last one resulting in Chandler Catanzaro's game-winning field goal as time expired.

9/7. Virginia Tech

Like clockwork, Frank Beamer has the Hokies competing for an ACC Coastal Division title in mid-November. With their only loss of the season coming at the hands of Clemson, Virginia Tech positions themselves for their fifth ACC Championship Game berth in seven years with a road win over Georgia Tech. The victory leaves just North Carolina and Virginia left on the schedule, with only the Cavaliers in a position to overtake the Hokies in the standings. As long as Logan Thomas and David Wilson keep moving the ball on the ground, they should find themselves with an opportunity to face the Tigers again. This time the stakes will be higher, with a bid to a BCS bowl game on the line.

23/22. Florida State

The Seminoles find themselves back in the polls after putting away in-state rival Miami for their fifth straight win. The return of quarterback EJ Manuel to the starting lineup has made everyone on the offense better, and the defense is giving up only 11.6 points per game in the winning streak. Florida State's goals of returning to the ACC Championship Game have already become unattainable, but there is plenty left for second-year head coach Jimbo Fisher to build on with the rest of this season.

OTV/23. Georgia Tech

The Yellow Jackets' hopes of making an ACC Championship Game were dashed in the loss to Virginia Tech at home on Thursday night. The Ramblin' Wreck tried to pull out the same home-cooking that stunned the Hokies two weeks earlier, but the defense had no answer for the powerful combination of Logan Thomas and David Wilson in the fourth quarter. A personal foul on Jeremiah Attaochu for a punch thrown at Thomas will end up being the play that sticks out as the game's turning point, but the Yellow Jackets need to put that game behind them and avoid slipping back into a funk. Georgia Tech has lost three of their last four, but will have opportunities to finish strong at Duke and at home against in-state rival Georgia to close the season.

Others receiving votes:Georgia Tech sits right on the outside of the AP poll, but no other ACC teams received votes from the media. Mike London's Virginia squad fell just a handful of spots outside of the Coaches' Poll, and will have a chance to gain some ground if they can win out and steal the Coastal Division.

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Posted on: November 7, 2011 3:04 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Week 10

Posted by Bryan Fischer

The latest college football polls are out and now it's time to rip them to shreds. Senior college basketball writer Gary Parrish has been calling out voters in the major hoops polls for thinking a little bit too far outside of the box when it comes to their AP ballots every week.

With the football season starting, I thought I'd steal take the baton on the idea from my colleague and keep all of the writers across the country who vote honest. I've come to know a good number of these people through time and twitter but relationships do not matter, bad votes do.

AP Poll           Coaches Poll           Harris Poll           BCS

(Details of AP ballots courtesy of PollSpeak.com)

Poll reactions: ACC, Big East, Big TenBig 12, Pac-12

Rodney Dangerfield "No respect" team of the week: Boise State

  They don't play anybody is the familiar refrain when it comes to the Broncos but all they do win and win and win some more. They beat UNLV this week to remain undefeated ahead of their showdown against TCU. Their best win, Georgia, is set to win the SEC East and play in the SEC championship game and Boise State could have eight or more bowl teams on the schedule by the end of the year. I get that they'll always be the little guy but this year the little guy has a great team. If you can't recognize that, sorry.

Overrated: Virginia Tech

  There are plenty of overrated teams in the top 25, but Virginia Tech at #10/#9 is right up there. They moved into the spot largely by default thanks to losses ahead of them. Their schedule is weak (non-conference games against Appalachian State, East Carolina, Arkansas State, Marshall) and they struggled to beat Duke in their last game. The close win over Miami looks better in retrospect but scoring just three points on Clemson's defense at home does not. If they beat Georgia Tech they'll solidify their place in the top 15 but they really don't have a signature win and won't get one unless they beat someone in a bowl game.

California Craziness

A trio of voters from California (CSN Bay Area/CBSSports.com's Ray Ratto, San Jose Mercury News' Jon Wilner, LA Daily News' Scott Wolf) are an interesting voting block. Some would call them progressive, others would call them extreme and just about everybody else will call them crazy given their fluctuations in their ballots each week. All three are consistently in Pollspeak's group of "extreme voters" so we'll highlight the most baffling decision(s) out of each.

  Going to run into Wilner this week, might tell him how I almost put him in this section but went with Wolf instead. Why Wolf? He's the only person in the country that has Boise State #1. I like the Broncos, but there's no reason to put them as the best team in the country given what LSU has done. He also has Wisconsin unranked, Houston 19th, Auburn ranked #13 and Michigan State 12th.

What were you thinking? Desmond Conner, Hartford Courant

  The Coaches put Virginia Tech ahead of Clemson, even though the Tigers own the head-to-head win. Desmond Conner, or the 13 other AP voters who ranked the loser ahead of the winner, did the same thing. The case can't be made to rank one ahead of the other considering 1) Clemson beat Virginia Tech 2) Clemson has wins over Auburn and Florida State while Virginia Tech's best is probably over Miami. Conner managed to rank the Hokies EIGHT spots ahead of Clemson, who he had all the way down at 17th. Goodness.

Posted on: November 7, 2011 12:13 pm
 

ACC poll reactions, Week 10

Posted by Chip Patterson

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the ACC fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches)

9/10. Clemson

Dabo Swinney must get his team refocused after getting their national championship dreams dashed by Georgia Tech in Atlanta on Oct. 29. With two weeks off, running back Andre Ellington - ruled out against the Yellow Jackets - should be healthy for the final stretch against Wake Forest, NC State, and South Carolina. While national ranking matters less now, the new focus is a berth to the ACC Championship Game. Clemson can clinch the ACC Atlantic Division with a win against Wake Forest on Saturday.


10/9. Virginia Tech

Despite losing to Clemson 23-3 at home earlier in the season, and barely beating Duke 14-10 in a game that featured no second-half touchdowns, the Coaches/SID's of the USA Today poll have the Hokies one spot ahead of the Tigers. Virginia Tech has improved over the course of the season, but they will need an impressive victory to look more like a Top 10 team. That opportunity will come on Thursday, as the Hokies travel to Atlanta to face Georgia Tech with the ACC Coastal Division on the line. If Frank Beamer's squad can overcome the Yellow Jackets' ground attack, that will be something the Tigers were unable to accomplish.

20/19. Georgia Tech

The ranked teams in the ACC did not compete in Week 10, yet all moved up in the polls. Getting healthier while improving in the rankings has got to be ultimate win-win for Georgia Tech. The Yellow Jackets have battled through injuries all season, and get a week off between their two biggest games on the schedule. Having already knocked off Clemson at home two weeks ago, Georgia Tech prepares to fight for a possible division title and berth to the ACC Championship Game against Virginia Tech this Thursday night.

Others receiving votes:Florida State's fourth win in a row has them sitting on the edge of the rankings in both polls. Virginia's move into bowl eligibility also has Mike London's squad getting their first significant attention from the voters, while Miami collected a few votes in the Coaches Poll following their win over Duke.

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Posted on: November 6, 2011 3:04 pm
 

Pac-12 poll reactions, Week 10

Posted by Bryan Fischer

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Pac-12 fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches)

3/2. Stanford

The Cardinal were one of two teams to take advantage of the Game of the Century in Tuscaloosa. Stanford moved up one spot in the AP poll, ahead of Alabama and behind Oklahoma State, and all the way up to second in the Coaches Poll. If they can beat Oregon in next week's huge match up, they will probably leapfrog the Cowboys. The defense showed improvement against Oregon State this week but injuries are continuing to mount, losing two of Andrew Luck's top targets in tight end Levine Toilolo and wide receiver Chris Owusu.

6/6. Oregon

No movement in the polls for the Ducks but they have their chance to make a statement this Saturday in Palo Alto. They dispatched with rival Washington 34-17 thanks to an explosive third quarter. LaMichael James is looking like he's recovering from his elbow injury nicely, rushing for 156 yards and a touchdown against the porous Huskies defense. The best take away from last week's game was the play of the defense, a welcome sign the week before facing the best player in college football.

20/ N/A. USC

The Trojans rolled to an easy win against Colorado on national television Friday night and thanks to some losses by teams ahead of them on Saturday, moved up two spots in the AP Poll (they're not eligible for the Coaches Poll). Matt Barkley set a school-record for touchdown passes in a game with six and the running game has been a surprise the past few games as well despite some injuries. They face their old pal Steve Sarkisian back home and can rise even further in the polls with a convincing win.

Others receiving votes: Arizona State received 15 points in the AP and 49 from the Coaches, Washington 8/10.

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Posted on: October 31, 2011 3:42 pm
Edited on: October 31, 2011 7:51 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Week 9

Posted by Bryan Fischer

The latest college football polls are out and now it's time to rip them to shreds. Senior college basketball writer Gary Parrish has been calling out voters in the major hoops polls for thinking a little bit too far outside of the box when it comes to their AP ballots every week.

With the football season starting, I thought I'd steal take the baton on the idea from my colleague and keep all of the writers across the country who vote honest. I've come to know a good number of these people through time and twitter but relationships do not matter, bad votes do.

AP Poll           Coaches Poll           Harris Poll           BCS

(Details of AP ballots courtesy of PollSpeak.com)

Poll reactions: ACC, Big East, Big TenBig 12, Pac-12, SEC

Rodney Dangerfield "No respect" team of the week: Penn State

  It took awhile but we're finally on board with the Nittany Lions. As my colleague Bruce Feldman asked, has any 8-1, Joe Paterno-coached team ever been this disrespected? Yes, the offense is pitiful outside of Silas Redd and they seem to enjoy tormenting the local media by never naming a starter. They're the leader in the, um, Leaders division and certainly have a chance at winning their last three games to get to the Big Ten title game. 10th is a little high (Jim Wogan, John Hunt) but 20th or below? Not right now.

Overrated: Michigan State

  Hard to pick just one team that is overrated this week, it seems like everybody below Oklahoma has serious issues (and Oregon/OU aren't great top 10 by any means). But Michigan State seems ripe at 15th in the AP poll and 16th in the Coaches poll. The loss to Notre Dame (31-13) doesn't look good at all in retrospect just as the Wisconsin win doesn't help all that much. They impressed in a win against Michigan but they only have three BCS wins and won by three in one and needed a hail mary in another.

California Craziness

A trio of voters from California (CSN Bay Area/CBSSports.com's Ray Ratto, San Jose Mercury News' Jon Wilner, LA Daily News' Scott Wolf) are an interesting voting block. Some would call them progressive, others would call them extreme and just about everybody else will call them crazy given their fluctuations in their ballots each week. All three are consistently in Pollspeak's group of "extreme voters" so we'll highlight the most baffling decision(s) out of each.

  It was really hard to pass on Wolf being in this space after he went on national television to defend his Boise State first place vote and failed miserably. But based on the ballot turned in, Wilner once again falls in the California Craziness section. 13th and 14th seem really high to rank Arizona State and USC, and all Auburn did this week was beat Ole Miss - are they really 17th ahead of Virginia Tech? Texas 19th, ahead of undefeated Houston at 25th (!) is highly questionable, as is Washington at 18th. Also, Georgia Tech and Penn State are unranked.

What were you thinking? Chris Fowler, Idaho Statesman

  Chris, Poll Attacks here, big fan of your work on GameDay and with tennis coverage. Here's the thing though, you can't rank USC 12th in the country after they lost to Stanford. You also can't rank the Trojans ahead of Arizona State, who beat them badly when they met earlier this year. Outside of that, the ballot looks pretty good. But still, USC 12th ahead of ASU? Come on man. Also probably a bit early to put in Ohio State.

Also have to say shame on the Idaho Statesman this week. With Boise State on a bye, they furloughed beat writer Chadd Cripe. That in, itself, would earned them a mention in this space. BUT, they also prevented Cripe from voting in this week's AP poll because it would have constituted working. So not only do you force him to the couch (likely to watch plenty of football) without pay, but you prevent him from sending a simple email about who he thinks is a top 25 team. Love the paper's coverage of Broncos athletics but really? What are you thinking? Not sure why Desmond Conner of the Hartford Courant didn't turn in a vote either but hope he has a good excuse.


Posted on: October 31, 2011 2:33 pm
 

Pac-12 poll reactions, Week 9

Posted by Bryan Fischer

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Pac-12 fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches)

4/3. Stanford

All eyes were on the Coliseum, complete with GameDay and an electric atmosphere for Stanford's first big test of the year. It wasn't a dominating win like their past 10 games of 25 plus but it was Andrew Luck's chance to shine with a game-tying drive in the 4th quarter and near flawless execution in overtime. The Cardinal didn't drop in the polls but they did lose some points this week. They can make it all up in a few weeks against the Ducks however.

6/6. Oregon

Oregon moved up a spot in each poll but fell back in the BCS standings behind Oklahoma and Arkansas. Not many people watched the Washington State game but they didn't see a sharp team in the first half and quarterback Darron Thomas was benched in the second half. They're going to have to be a lot better than they have if they want to come out of Palo Alto with a win in a few weeks and should be facing the best offense they've seen so far with a trip to Washington this week.

20/18. Arizona State

Because they've essentially clinched the Pac-12 South and were beaten on national television by Oregon a few weeks ago, the Sun Devils have gone under the radar recently. They blew away Colorado, scoring 21 in the first quarter alone, in a 48-14 win this week and are in the middle of a stretch of games featuring the bottom four teams in the conference and .500 UCLA. Still, thanks to other losses they're moving in the polls, up three spots in the AP and two in the coaches.

20/N/A. USC

Barely losing to Stanford didn't cost the Trojans too much in the eyes of pollsters, who dropped them just one spot in the AP Top 25 (they're ineligible in the Coaches Poll). More than anything, Saturday's game put USC back on the map nationally with their play and though Robert Woods wasn't super sharp, him and Matt Barkley had a solid game. Any let down this week should be mitigated by the fact that they're playing Colorado.

Others receiving votes: Washington received 52 points in the AP and 38 from the Coaches.

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Posted on: October 30, 2011 4:16 pm
 

ACC poll reactions, Week 9

Posted by Chip Patterson

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the ACC fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches)

11/12. Clemson

Clemson takes an expected tumble from their Top 10 rankings after suffering the 31-17 loss to Georgia Tech. The challenge for head coach Dabo Swinney is to take this young Tigers team and help them avoid letting Saturday's disappointment derail the season. Thanks to Wake Forest's loss to North Carolina, Clemson still controls their own destiny in the ACC Atlantic Division and could end up facing the Yellow Jackets again in the ACC title game.


12/11. Virginia Tech

Virginia Tech likely benefited from their 14-10 victory over Duke flying below the radar on an otherwise busy college football Saturday. The game featured six turnovers, 12 combined penalties, and four missed field goals. The only consistency for the Hokies offensively was David Wilson (23 carries, 148 yards) in a performance that saw the last Virginia Tech point get scored five minutes into the second quarter. Virginia Tech and Clemson battling just outside the Top 10 feels appropriate considering their current status in the national landscape. Georgia Tech will try to play spoiler once again to the Hokies, who must travel to Atlanta a week from Thursday and avoid the same trap that tripped up Clemson.

22/23. Georgia Tech

Georgia Tech reappears in the rankings thanks to their well-publicized upset of No. 6 Clemson at home on Saturday night. Head coach Paul Johnson suggested that fatigue may have been a factor in the recent losses, and adjustments were made to the practice schedule heading into the primetime showdown. Now the Yellow Jackets get a much-needed off week to get healthier and prepare for another crucial ACC conference matchup against Virginia Tech. A win against the 1-loss Hokies would give the Yellow Jackets the head-to-head tie breaker against the current leaders in the ACC Coastal Division.

Others receiving votes:Florida State received some interest from the voters in both polls following yet another 25+ point victory over a conference opponent, while North Carolina received a few points in the Coaches Poll.

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