Tag:Collin Klein
Posted on: September 29, 2011 11:30 am
Edited on: September 29, 2011 11:31 am
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Bryce Brown's status at KState isn't clear

Posted by Tom Fornelli

Kansas State is off to a 3-0 start to the season and has a pretty big game against Baylor on Saturday, but there's still a pretty big question mark surrounding running back Bryce Brown. Brown's status with the Wildcats is up in the air at the moment. While he's still officially listed on the team's roster, according to The Manhattan Mercury, a school spokesman could not confirm or deny that Brown was still a member of the team on Wednesday.

"Just unfortunate," head coach Bill Snyder told the paper. "Bryce is going through some difficult times right now and we'll try to help him all we can." 

What exactly those difficult times are, Snyder did not say.

Brown was one of the top recruits in the country when coming out of high school and signed to play for Lane Kiffin at Tennessee. He then transferred to Kansas State, along with his brother, linebacker Arthur Brown, to be closer to his family in 2009. Odds are that Brown's difficulties are directly related to his playing time, as he only has 3 carries for 16 yards on the season.

He appeared in two series on offense in Kansas State's win over Miami, but never touched the ball and missed a block that led to Collin Klein being sacked.

Making matters worse for Brown, John Hubert had a great game against Miami, and Bill Snyder said Hubert would once again be the starter against Baylor, with Angelo Pease and Robert Rose behind him on the depth chart. Meaning that Brown is fourth in the pecking order in Manhattan. 

That is, if he's still with Kansas State.
Posted on: July 27, 2011 12:55 pm
Edited on: July 27, 2011 12:56 pm
 

K-State QB job is Collin Klein's to lose

Posted by Tom Fornelli

While Kansas State head coach Bill Snyder didn't come out and say it directly, it sounds like Collin Klein will be Kansas State's starting quarterback this season. Snyder would only go as far as saying that Klein will be the team's starting quarterback for fall practice.

“He’ll take the first snap when we start in the fall,” Snyder told the Kansas City Star.

Now while Snyder didn't say that Klein would start when Kansas State opens its season against Eastern Kentucky, he did drop a hint that it might be the case. Instead of saying that Klein would be in a battle with fellow quarterbacks Justin Tuggle and Sammuel Lamur, Snyder said that he hopes "it will be competitive." Which, to me, sounds as though the job is Klein's and unless he performs terribly in practice, he'll be starting against Eastern Kentucky.

Klein got plenty of playing time for the Wildcats last season, but most of it was as a change of pace to Carson Coffman. Klein was used more as a running quarterback than a passer, rushing for 432 yards and 6 touchdowns on 76 carries while only throwing 18 passes for 138 yards. So it is possible that while Klein may start the season on top of the depth chart, if he doesn't improve his passing he might not be there for long.
Posted on: April 1, 2011 12:03 pm
Edited on: April 1, 2011 12:05 pm
 

Spring Practice Primer: Kansas State

Posted by Tom Fornelli

College Football has no offseason. Every coach knows that the preparation for September begins now, in Spring Practice. So we here at the Eye on College Football will get you ready as teams open spring ball with our Spring Practice Primers. Today, we look at Kansas State, which starts spring practice this Wednesday.

Spring Practice Question: Anybody want to play some defense?

On a lot of levels, 2010 should be considered nothing but a success for Kansas State. A team that many people saw finishing near the bottom of the Big 12 North (RIP) ended the regular season 7-5, and should have finished the year 8-5 had it not had a win in the Pinstripe Bowl stolen from its grasp by the officials on a bogus celebration penalty.

Seriously, I have absolutely no connection to Kansas State yet I'm still bitter about the ending of that game. I was half-tempted to do this whole primer as a "Can Kansas State figure out ways to celebrate without referees noticing in 2011?"

Anyway, let's put the past in the past, and look toward the future. There are plenty of questions that Kansas State will have to answer before the season starts. Most notably, how does Bill Snyder find a way to replace both Chase Coffman and Daniel Thomas? Neither will be easy, especially when you consider that the Wildcats second-leading rusher was Collin Klein, who was a quarterback and will now play wide receiver in 2011.

Still, as important as it is to find a new quarterback and running back. If I had to make a prediction, I'd go with Justin Tuggle at quarterback because nobody loves juco transfers more than Bill Snyder. At running back I'd go with Bryce Brown, provided that Bryce doesn't transfer four more times before the season starts.

More important than either of those decisions, in my opinion, will be the Kansas State defense. More importantly, will Kansas State have a defense in 2011?

Yes, the Wildcats exceeded expectations last year, but if they are to match the success of 2010 or improve upon it, then the defense will have to have a much better season. The Wildcats had the worst defense in the Big 12 last season, and gave up more rushing yards (3,008!) than any other defense in the country. Not the Big 12, the country. It came in 120th of 120 teams.

Now I should point out that while Kansas State gave up a lot of yardage on defense last year, as far as points went, the Wildcats weren't terrible. They checked in 78th nationally with 29.1 points per game.

Still, imagine how much lower that number would have been if the Wildcats knew how to tackle.

The one area that Kansas State actually did well in was in its pass defense, where it allowed only 212.25 yards a game. Of course, the question there is was it the ability of the Kansas State secondary, or just the fact that teams didn't need to throw much considering they could just break off 10 yards on every run. I'm guessing it was a bit of both, as opposing offenses completed only 55% of their passes against the Wildcats, which was the best mark in the Big 12. Which should continue in to 2011 as two of the secondary's best, David Garrett and Tysyn Hartman, are both back.

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Where the improvement will need to come is on the defensive line and the linebacking corps. One player to keep an eye on this spring is linebacker Arthur Brown. Yes, the brother of Bryce Brown, who was also a highly touted recruit in 2008 that originally signed with Miami before transferring to Manhattan. If he can live up to the hype he was given coming out of high school, his presence could go a long way in improving the run defense. Along with Brown, the team will need to see improvement from Alex Hrebec and Blake Slaughter.

On the defensive line, Kansas State loses Prizell Brown who led the team in sacks with 5 and made 42 tackles last season, 7 for a loss. It will be up to Raphael Guidry and Brandon Harold to step up and replace Brown in 2011.

Now, obviously, you can't take a defense that gave up so many yards last season and turn them into an elite unit only a season later. If defensive coordinator Chris Cosh can pull that off, then give him a huge raise and a head coaching position somewhere else in 2012. At the same time, however, it'll be hard for Kansas State not to improve on defense.

And with an offense that has so many questions heading into the season, it's going to have to.
Posted on: February 4, 2011 12:33 pm
 

KState moving Klein back to WR?

Posted by Tom Fornelli

The Kansas State passing attack wasn't anything to write home about in 2010, but at times the Wildcats ground game worked so well behind Daniel Thomas that it didn't matter much. Just ask Texas. Still, the Wildcats offense seemed to be rejuvenated later in the season when Collin Klein began taking some snaps away from starter Carson Coffman. So it's not surprising that heading into 2011, coach Bill Snyder plans on having an open competition for the starting quarterback job.

What is surprising is that it sounds like Klein won't be a part of the competition. According to incoming freshman quarterback Daniel Sams, who just signed with Kansas State on Wednesday, Klein will be moving back to wide receiver this season.
From Slidell, La., Sams is one of two quarterbacks in the new class, including junior college transfer Justin Tuggle. Both are expected to compete for the starting job in the fall. Collin Klein, who played in 10 games this past season, may not be in the mix at QB any longer, as Sams said the junior-to-be is moving back to wide receiver full time.
Which, if true, means that the competition is now between Sams, Tuggle, Coffman and Sammuel Lamur. When Klein did play in 2010, he didn't throw all that often and was used as more of a runner. It seems that Snyder doesn't have as much faith in Klein as a passer, though he did complete 11 of his 18 pass attempts in 2010.

Still, if Snyder feels that his other quarterbacks give his team a better chance through the air, and bring the same benefits as Klein with their legs, then its hard to argue against moving Klein out to wide receiver. Though I'm not totally sold on the idea myself, because when I saw Klein playing last season the Kansas State offense looked a lot more dangerous to me than it did under Coffman.
Posted on: December 30, 2010 7:34 pm
 

Bowl Grades: Pinstripe Bowl

Posted by Tom Fornelli

Syracuse rides Delone Carter, Marcus Sales and some help from the refs to beat Kansas State 38-36 in first ever Pinstripe Bowl

Syracuse


Offense: Syracuse did not come into this game with the reputation as a strong offense, as the Orange averaged only 21.0 points a game this season.  Still, a funny thing happens when you have a running back like Delone Carter and are facing one of the worst run defenses in the country: you rack up yards like there's no tomorrow.  The Syracuse offense put up 498 yards of total offense on the day, led by Carter's 202 rushing yards and 2 touchdowns.  Ryan Nassib also found his groove after playing poorly down the stretch of the season, to throw for 240 yards and three touchdowns of his own.

All three of Nassib's touchdown passes went to Marcus Sales, who only had one touchdown during the season, and wasn't even listed on the depth chart before the year started.  Sales finished the day with 5 catches for 172 yards.  Grade: A

Defense: Much like its offense, Syracuse's defense took on an alternate personality in Yankee Stadium.  Syracuse only gave up 13.1 points a game during the season, but life is a bit different when you step out of the Big East apparently.  Still, even though Kansas State put up a lot of points, the Syracuse defense played a bit better than it looks.

First of all, holding a Kansas State offense that averaged over 200 yards on the ground per game to 120 yards and 3.3 yards a carry is nothing to be ashamed of.  No doubt the Syracuse game plan was to stuff the Wildcats ground attack and force them to air it out, which they did, but had probably been hoping they could do a better job of containing the passing game.  Grade: C

Coaching: Doug Marrone took the leash off his offense and let the kids play a bit in this one, and it worked out very well for the Orange.  From flea-flickers to reverses, to being smart enough to pound KSU into submission with Delone Carter, I can't find much in Syracuse's gameplan to complain about.  Grade: A

Kansas State 


Offense: Much like Syracuse, Kansas State didn't have a lot of trouble finding the end zone in this game.  What was surprising, however, was to see Chase Coffman have so much success throwing the ball.  I had thought that Kansas State would be better served with Collin Klein at quarterback in this game, and it turns out I was wrong.

Coffman completed 17-of-23 passes for 229 yards and a couple touchdowns.

The problem for the Wildcats was that aside from his 51-yard touchdown run in the first minute of the game, Daniel Thomas was virtually non-existent.  Yes, he finished with 3 touchdowns, but following that first run, Thomas had only 38 yards on 20 carries.  When he struggles like that, Kansas State isn't going to win a lot of games.  Grade: B

Defense: Did Kansas State play defense during this game?  I'm having some trouble remembering plays in which it did.

Seriously, Kansas State's defense wasn't anything to be proud of all season, and it wasn't on Thursday as well.  When you allow an offense that had been as lackluster as Syracuse's to pick up nearly 500 yards of offense, well, there's only one grade you deserve.  Grade: F

Coaching: Bill Snyder.  I love what you've done for Kansas State in your career, but you made some questionable decisions in this one.  While I loved the call to run the option on fourth and goal early in the fourth quarter, the fake field goal you ran later in the quarter when down five just didn't do it for me.  You know that touchdown you scored in the final minutes that the refs jobbed you on -- more on that in a bit -- and cost you a chance to send the game to overtime?  Yeah, well had you just kicked that field goal, the refs wouldn't have factored into the game and you'd have won. Grade: C

The Referees


Seriously, refs?  A personal foul in the final minutes after Adrian Hilburn scored a touchdown to bring Kansas State within two points?  Really?  Was a salute to the crowd actually enough to warrant a 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct call, and force Kansas State to go for two from the 18-yard line?  I hope it was for you, because I fear that what was a very good game will only be remembered for your boneheaded call at the end of it.

But, hey, at least you kept the kids from having any fun in their bowl game, right?  That's why we have these bowl games, isn't it?  As a reward for the players?

Final Grade: This game was not the crispest football game we've seen this year, but as far as the bowl games have gone, this was one of the more entertaining affairs for both the fans and viewers.  It's just unfortunate that a terrible call by the referees had such a dramatic impact on the outcome.  Still, even with that happening, I'm going to base this grade on the first 58 minutes and 46 seconds.  Grade: A-
Posted on: December 27, 2010 2:15 pm
Edited on: December 27, 2010 2:15 pm
 

CBS Bowl Bonanza: Pinstripe Bowl

Posted by Tom Fornelli as part of the blog's Bowl Bonanza series.  Read our preview for today's Independence Bowl here.

The Basics: Kansas State (7-5) vs. Syracuse (7-5), Dec. 30, 3:20pm EST

Why You Should Watch: Because don't you want to be able to tell your children and grandchildren someday that you were there, at home, to watch the first ever New Era Pinstripe Bowl inside the legendary two-year old -- it may be 22 years old by then -- Yankee Stadium?  Who could pass that opportunity up?  Plus, given the latest weather patterns to hit New York this week, the game could be played under two feet of snow.

Keys to Victory for Kansas State: It seems pretty generic to say it, but it's true.  In order for Kansas State to beat Syracuse the Wildcats are going to have to win the battle up front on offense.  Syracuse has a strong defensive line anchored by defensive tackles Bud Tribbey and Andrew Lewis.  The interior of KSU's line, which has been strong all season, will have to neutralize those two and get to the second level and take linebackers Derrell Smith and Doug Hogue out of the equation.

This will be a key for Daniel Thomas to find room, and the more successful that Daniel Thomas is, the more successful Kansas State generally is.  

It's likely that Kansas State will also feature backup QB Collin Klein a bit in this game as well.  He saw a lot more playing time towards the end of the season, and he's more athletic and elusive than Carson Coffman is, and at times looked unstoppable.  It will be important for Kansas State to be successful on the ground because its passing attack has been suspect this season, and Syracuse is strong in pass coverage.

Keys to Victory for Syracuse: It's not exactly a secret that Syracuse's strength is its defense.  The Orange are ranked only 99th in the country with 21.0 points per game, but are ranked 13th in the nation on defense, allowing only 18.1 points per game.

That formula shouldn't change in this game, but Syracuse does have a chance to be a bit more successful on offense.  Particularly in the rushing game, as Kansas State has been pretty underwhelming against the run on defense this season.  So Syracuse's best bet would be to feed the ball to Delone Carter and Antwon Bailey and pound the Wildcats defense into submission.

There may be room for Syracuse to throw the ball a bit better than they have this season, but Ryan Nassib doesn't have many options around him and he can be a bit slow in making a decision. So Syracuse would be better served to pick its spots in the passing game, and let Carter and Bailey carry the load.

The Pinstripe Bowl is like: an actual baseball game at Yankee Stadium between the Yankees and Red Sox.  Not because this is such a strong rivalry, or because the stands will be packed, but because the final score is likely going to be 14-13 and the game will take over four hours.
Posted on: November 13, 2010 2:13 pm
 

Mizzou up 21-14 on KState at half

Posted by Tom Fornelli

It's not only Senior Day in Columbia, Missouri this afternoon, it's also "Nobody Wants To Play Defense Day."  Both Missouri and Kansas State are doing just about anything they want with the ball in the first half, as the two teams have combined for 462 yards of total offense and 35 points in the first half, taking turns on long drive after long drive.

Still, there was one huge play at the end of the first half that may go a long way in deciding the victor of this game, as it seems is one defensive stop is all it's going to take.  Kansas State drove over 70 yards in the final minutes of the half before facing a first and goal at about the half-yard line.  Quarterback Chase Coffman then fumbled the snap and it was recovered by Missouri, who ran one play and then went to the locker room for halftime.

It's somewhat fitting that the first defensive stop came on a play in which the defense did nothing but fall on a football.

Blaine Gabbert is doing it all for Missouri, completing 11-of-13 passes for 98 yards and a score, and also rushing for 70 yards on 9 carries, including a 32-yard touchdown run.  On the Kansas State side of the ball, the Wildcats may have discovered a star at quarterback.  Collin Klein had a huge day against Texas last week, rushing for 127 yards and two touchdowns, and he's doing a lot of the same things today.  Klein has shared snaps with Coffman throughout the first half, and has picked up 79 yards on eight carries, continually gashing the Missouri defense for more than ten yards at a time.

It'll be interesting to see if either defense feels like showing up in the second half, though, to be honest, I'm fine with the shootout.
Posted on: November 7, 2010 12:00 am
Edited on: November 7, 2010 12:01 am
 

What I learned from the Big 12 (Nov. 6)

Posted by Tom Fornelli

1. There really is no order in the Big 12.   The Big East and the ACC have caught a lot of flak this season for the overall lack of quality throughout their conferences, but the further we get into the Big 12 season, the more I wonder how different the Big 12 is.  Think about it, Texas has lost to UCLA, Iowa State, Baylor and now Kansas State this season.  The same Baylor team that beat Texas then went and got destroyed by Oklahoma State, who suffered its only loss to Nebraska, who suffered its only loss to Texas.  It's an insane circle that I just can't wrap my head around right now.

2. Nebraska is going to the title game.   With a narrow win against Iowa State on Saturday, and a Missouri loss against Texas Tech, the Cornhuskers are pretty much assured of winning the Big 12 North.  Nebraska already has a one-game lead on Mizzou in the standings, and with the tiebreaker from beating the Tigers last week, it's really a two-game lead.  Which means that Nebraska has to lose at least two of it's last three, and with teams like Kansas and Colorado remaining on the schedule, I don't think it's going to happen.

3. Bill Snyder thinks throwing is for wimps.
Kansas State manhandled Texas on Saturday night, winning by a final of 39-14.  They had nine passing yards in the game.  Seriously, only nine.  The score was 31-0 Wildcats before Collin Klein even bothered completing his first pass of the game.  That's how bad Texas is this season.  Even when it knows what its opponent is going to do, the Longhorns can't stop it.

4. Oklahoma State has the edge in the South.
  Talk about a perfect day for the Cowboys.  Not only do they rock Baylor's world in the morning, but get to return home in time to see Oklahoma lose to Texas A&M.   This means that Oklahoma State is the only team in the South with one loss, and it's already beaten two of the three teams beneath it with three losses.  So, essentially, the final game of the season against Oklahoma will probably settle who gets to face Nebraska in Dallas.

5. There is no lead Colorado cannot blow.
  You know, Dan Hawkins probably knows he's going to get fired, but until Saturday he thought he'd make it through the season at least.  That may no longer be the case.  Colorado had a 45-17 lead on Kansas in the fourth quarter on Saturday.  They lost the game 52-45.  I repeat, the Buffs blew a 45-17 lead in the fourth quarter as Kansas scored a school-record 35 points in the final frame.  If Dan Hawkins is still Colorado's head coach on Monday it'll be the biggest upset of the season.

 
 
 
 
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