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Posted on: September 19, 2011 6:01 pm
Edited on: September 19, 2011 6:35 pm
 

Big Ten poll reactions, Week 3

Posted by Adam Jacobi

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Big Ten fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches)

6/7. Wisconsin

Wisconsin stays moving up, and for this I'm happy; the Badgers have looked like a Top 5 or 6 program every step of the way thus far, and now they're only 5 voter points away from overtaking Oklahoma State in the coaches poll. Of course, some voters might have a problem with the Wisconsin schedule thus far, and that's a valid thing to take into account (especially at this point in the season). So no howls of outrage here by any stretch -- especially when there's the rest of the poll to take umbrage with.

9/9. Nebraska

Needless to say, if I didn't agree with Nebraska's ranking last week, I'm not going to agree with it this week -- they're No. 16 in my Top 25, because I don't do the straight win-go-up, lose-go-down polling thing. The Huskers don't look like a Top 10 team at all so far -- not when it takes so long for the Huskers to put away the likes of Fresno State and Washington in Lincoln. They also don't look like a .500 team either, because this year's crop of teams drops off pretty precipitously after the first two tiers, and Nebraska looks to be on that third tier. Don't get me wrong -- they're still the team to beat in the Legends division. But 9th in the nation? No. Nooo no no no. Not yet. Not like this. 

22/21. Michigan

I personally still don't have Michigan in my Top 25 yet -- they're mighty close -- but I understand this ranking and I don't have much of a problem with it -- as of right now. Denard Robinson still terrifies me throwing the ball, though, and I still think this all crashes down in the last half of the season in a big way, but if Michigan takes care of SDSU this weekend and handles its first road test at Northwestern (who should have a healthy Dan Persa by then), it'll have earned a Top 20 spot.

UR/23. Michigan State

Yes, Michigan State is still ranked in the coaches poll and Illinois is not. The coaches poll is a joke. The real coaches don't even participate. I don't want to cover it like a serious thing anymore, but it just so happens to be a third of the BCS calculations so here we are every week, going through with this. Ugh.

24/UR. Illinois

With the Saturday win over then-No. 22 Arizona State, Illinois catapulted itself into the national conversation for the time being, and good for the Illini; they've got a legit quarterback in Nathan Scheelhaase, a productive defense with a mean streak, and a schedule that lends itself to maybe as many as 10 regular season wins. They could -- nay, should be 6-0 heading into a home date with Ohio State on October 15. Giddyup!

Also receiving votes: Illinois (90 coaches votes), Michigan State (42 AP votes), Ohio State (16 AP votes, 92 coaches votes), Penn State (19 coaches votes), Northwestern (1 coaches vote)

Posted on: September 12, 2011 4:06 pm
Edited on: September 12, 2011 4:23 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Week 2

Posted by Bryan Fischer

The latest college football polls are out and now it's time to rip them to shreds. Senior college basketball writer Gary Parrish has been calling out voters in the major hoops polls for thinking a little bit too far outside of the box when it comes to their AP ballots every week.

With the football season starting, I thought I'd steal take the baton on the idea from my colleague and keep all of the writers across the country who vote honest. I've come to know a good number of these people through time and twitter but relationships do not matter, bad votes do.

AP Poll           Coaches Poll

(Details of AP ballots courtesy of PollSpeak.com)

Poll reactions: ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC

Rodney Dangerfield "No respect" team of the week: Baylor

Really coaches? Again? I threw your sports information directors under the bus last week for having Baylor behind a TCU team they beat. Imagine my surprise to see this for the second consecutive week. I know you all believe in Gary Patterson. I do too. But they settled it on the field and he lost. Robert Griffin III will give your defensive coordinator the willies. The only thing I can think of is you're not big fans of schools that threaten others with lawsuits.

Overrated: Nebraska

Both polls have the Cornhuskers sitting in the top 10, behind 9th-ranked Texas A&M and ahead of 11th-ranked South Carolina. Perhaps it's our place to point out that the Taylor Martinez completed just 50% of his passes against Chattanooga in the opener. Or that it was a one point game entering the 4th quarter against Fresno State. But go ahead and rank them fifth Ira Schoffel. Sixth isn't much better Tom Murphy. Things won't get much better if they beat Washington either I'm guessing but at least we'll have a better idea of how good this team is.

California Craziness

A trio of voters from California (CSN Bay Area/CBSSports.com's Ray Ratto, San Jose Mercury News' Jon Wilner, LA Daily News' Scott Wolf) are an interesting voting block. Some would call them progressive, others would call them extreme and just about everybody else will call them crazy given their fluctuations in their ballots each week. All three are consistently in Pollspeak's group of "extreme voters" so we'll highlight the most baffling decision(s) out of each.

Wilner was in this space last week but even though his ballot was utterly ridiculous again (Texas 14th? Almost as bad as Virginia Tech 23rd or Arkansas 25th), we'll move on to Mr. Ratto. I know he watches a lot of Pac-12 games out in San Francisco so why, then, do you have Oregon 23rd and Washington 14th? Are the Huskies' narrow victories over FCS Eastern Washington and Hawaii make them deserving of being ranked ahead of Baylor? Is losing to your number one ranked team - LSU - the reason for the Ducks being behind Texas? Or 12 spots behind USF? Did you see the Trojans eek out a victory for the second straight week? You certainly were not watching Arizona State beat Missouri. And I'm positive you didn't read Brett McMurphy's column saying Arkansas is talented enough to win the SEC because you fail to include the Razorbacks on your ballot. Craziness indeed.

What were you thinking? USF

Mike Hlas of the Cedar Rapids Gazette was in this spot last week for ranking USF fifth despite Notre Dame doubling their yardage and winning by three. So guess what? USF sits fifth once again. They're in the Big East. They beat an 0-2 Irish team by three. They might be good at the end of the year but in no way are they the fifth best team in the country. Wisconsin, Stanford, Florida State and all of the other teams you have behind them are better and it's not even close. I'm sorry, over-rating Notre Dame and then over-rating a team that beat them should get you kicked off the voting roster.

Come on man

Last week, I put my colleague over at SI.com, Andy Staples, in this space for ranking Boise State way too low at No. 13 in his ballot following their win against Georgia. Andy owned up to his mistake and apologized to Bronco Nation (and thus, me) for having them too far down. His week three ballot has the Blue turfers seventh between Florida State and Texas A&M. While Staples' polling has come around, he also gave me some good advice: I'm too nice.

Well, sorry Chadd Cripe of the Idaho Statesman. You're now in the crosshairs thinks to Staples' advice.

I know you're a bit isolated up in Idaho but there has to be television with satellite somewhere in the state, right? You have Florida State as a borderline top 15 team (#13), UCF in the top 20 (highest out of anyone) along with Mississippi State two spots ahead of them. Oregon's still in the top 10 at No. seven and both Auburn and Ohio State are top 20 teams despite each narrowly escaping competition that usually plays on Thursday's.

Hlas' ballot is so terrible he gets an additional mention in this spot. USF, fifth. Seriously?

Also, the AP itself gets a mention for their mistake this week, which you can read more about here.


Posted on: September 11, 2011 10:12 pm
 

Pac-12 poll reactions, Week 2

Posted by Bryan Fischer

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Pac-12 fared, from the top of the polls to its bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches)

6/6. Stanford

The Cardinal traveled east to play Duke in week two and while they didn't start out particularly sharp, they finished as you would expect and rolled to a 44-14 victory. The team hasn't really played a marquee game yet but they're led by one of the preeminent players in the country in Andrew Luck so they're still on the national radar. They picked up points in both polls and should figure to move up with a late night win against Arizona this weekend since either Oklahoma or Florida State figure to slide down after the two meet in Tallahassee.

12/14. Oregon

Nevada seemed to be the perfect cure for the Ducks' Texas hangover. The defense was swarming and the offense looked like they were back in top gear. Darron Thomas was sharp and efficient but the star of the game was freshman athlete De'Anthony Thomas, who racked up 204 all-purpose yards and two touchdowns. Oregon is behind a host of undefeated teams and will make a slow climb back into the top 10 as they keep winning big and others start losing games as the season progresses. They're better than their ranking indicates but it will take a while for them move up.

22/18. Arizona State

Dennis Erickson's squad is back in the top 25 after a three-year absence thanks to a big overtime win against Missouri in front of a national television audience. It's a little concerning that they allowed the Tigers to come back in the 4th quarter but the offense looked much better than many people thought. They'll be back in the spotlight again this week with a game against Illinois before starting conference play against USC.

Others receiving votes: USC (68 points in the AP poll), Washington (12 AP, 7 Coaches), Cal (6 Coaches)


Posted on: September 11, 2011 9:31 pm
Edited on: September 12, 2011 1:38 pm
 

Big East poll reactions, Week 2

Posted by Chip Patterson

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Big East fared, from the top of the polls to its bottom, and what it means.

West Virginia (AP:18/Coaches: 20) - The Mountaineers got a quick scare from Norfolk State when they trailed 12-10 at the half, but quarterback Geno Smith got the offense clicking in the third quarter and West Virginia pulled away with a 55-12 win. But things will not get any easier for Dana Holgorsen's squad in the next weeks with a road game at Maryland on Saturday and then a visit from No. 3 LSU on Sept. 24.

South Florida (AP: 20/Coaches: 22) - The Bulls were all business against Ball State on Saturday, showing no signs of a Notre Dame hangover in front of the largest crowd for a home opener since 2008. BJ Daniels set career-highs for completions (28), attempts (29), and passing yards (359) while the defense put together a three quarter shutout. South Florida's greatest challenge this season begins Sept. 29, when the Bulls play four conference road games in six weeks.

Other receiving votes - Pittsburgh and Syracuse are the only teams in the conference still undefeated, but close wins over Maine and Rhode Island on Saturday did not attract any extra positive attention that would result in votes. As far as the polls go, I'm not expecting to see anyone from the conference other than the Bulls or Mountaineers anytime soon.
Posted on: September 11, 2011 7:40 pm
Edited on: September 12, 2011 1:38 pm
 

ACC Poll Reactions, Week 2

Posted by Chip Patterson

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the ACC fared, from the top of the polls to its bottom, and what it means.

Florida State (AP: 5/Coaches: 5) - No real change in the polls after taking care of business against Charleston Southern, putting away the Buccaneers early on the war to a 62-10 route.  until proven otherwise I'd say many would agree Florida state to the best team in the "second tier" of title contenders.  The Seminoles first real test in 2011 is also their greatest opportunity to move up in the polls.  The eyes of the nation will be on Tallahassee on Saturday, when the top-ranked Oklahoma Sooners come to town for a showdown under the lights.

Virginia Tech (AP: 13/Coaches: 12) - An expected dip here after being ranked at No. 11 heading into the weekend. The Hokies' offense struggled through three quarters to move the ball through the air against East Carolina's defense, which was somewhat alarming to Virginia Tech fans. Logan Thomas did prove to me much more of a rushing threat, but the Hokies showed some vulnerability in the 17-10 victory.

Other Receiving Votes - Despite an off weekend, Maryland picked up some points from voters. They've got a date with No. 18 West Virginia on Saturday in Byrd Stadium, and a victory should be enough to get them into the poll. Georgia Tech, who once again put up surprisingly high numbers with their passing game, also collected some votes from both polls. North Carolina and Clemson received votes in the coaches poll, once again proving that most coaches (or the ones responsible for their votes) do not get much time (or care) to survey the day's action before voting.
Posted on: September 6, 2011 11:12 pm
 

Big East poll reactions, Week 1

Posted by Chip Patterson

Predictably, the preseason polls did not have much of a Big East presence. The preseason Associated Press poll only opened the door for West Virginia to sneak in at No. 24. But on Saturday South Florida made quite the statement to the voters, pulling off the upset win over Notre Dame in South Bend. Now the conference gets to revel in two teams represented in the polls, with one more collecting votes.

19. West Virginia - Dana Holgorsen's debut in Morgantown was far from normal as the Mountaineers collected their first victory in a game called for lightning. The new offensive scheme under the direction of quarterback Geno Smith sputtered at first, but by the time the game was called the offense had scored five times on eight offensive drives - something that Holgorsen singled out on Monday as "pretty good." Next the Mountaineers will host Norfolk State before traveling to College Park and face Maryland in Byrd Stadium.

22. South Florida - Skip Holtz said before the season that his team had some momentum coming off the Bulls' dramatic late season victories over Miami and Clemson in the Meineke Car Care Bowl. That momentum off those two close wins carried over to South Bend on Saturday with the 23-20 victory over the then-ranked Irish. The Bulls' defense was opportunistic, and BJ Daniels was able to orchestrate enough scoring drives (granted, field goals) in the first half to put the game out of reach by the time the Irish made the quarterback switch. The Bulls now have three winnable games ahead with the possibilities of traveling to Pittsburgh 4-0. After that begins the brutal road journey through the Big East that includes four away games in five weeks.

Other Receiving Votes 38. Pittsburgh - The Panthers' "high-octane" offense took a while to get going against Buffalo, and it is clear the Panthers are sell getting used to operating at Todd Graham's preferred speed in a game situation. Luckily Pitt welcomes Maine to town on Saturday for one more test-run before taking Graham's "high-octane" show on the road to face the Hawkeyes in Iowa on Sept. 17.
Posted on: September 6, 2011 10:30 pm
 

Big Ten poll reactions, Week 1

Posted by Adam Jacobi

It wasn't a terribly eventful week in the Big Ten. The most notable opponent anybody in the conference played in Week 1 was Boston College, who was felled by Northwestern in a 24-17 thriller. Other than that, Indiana lost to Ball State in a game that had precisely zero effect on the polls, and everybody else not named Purdue more or less rolled to victory.

[MORE: View full AP rankings here, and Coaches rankings here.]

Accordingly, there wasn't much movement in the polls this week, since wins over cupcakes don't often stand out as reasons for voters to bump teams up a notch or two, and well, there were a lot of cupcakes in Big Ten play in Week 1. Onward!

(AP/Coaches)

8/9. Wisconsin 

For as much as I grouse about the "win go up lose go down" mentality of voters, I have to hand it to the AP for pushing Wisconsin not just past Oregon, but above fellow winners Nebraska and Oklahoma State after Week 1; both teams led the Badgers in the preseason poll. Unfortunately, no such push happened in the Coaches Poll, where Wisconsin only passed up Oregon. Objectively, this ranking is a sham, because Wisconsin would definitely beat Texas A&M (one spot above Wisconsin in both polls) on a neutral field, and they would give Boise State and Stanford mountains of hell. This is a bad ranking. Let's fix it already.

10/10. Nebraska

The Huskers didn't look quite on Wisconsin's level, or much better than any number of high-major programs that smacked their cupcake opponents around, but polling entropy being what it is they stay more or less put. That's fine, I guess, but it's terribly boring. We have small sample sizes! Let's abuse them!

15/15. Ohio State

Ohio State looked like a team that belonged a lot higher in the polls in its opening week performance against Akron, and the voters responded; OSU went up three spots in the AP and one in the Coaches. The upcoming battle with Miami doesn't exactly have the teeth it used to, but the likely OSU romp in that game ought to improve the Buckeyes' standing in voters' minds anyway. The real fun begins in October, though, when Luke Fickell's boys host the next team in the rankings in the conference opener.

17/16. Michigan State

That next team in the rankings is Michigan State, who didn't put together a very sharp performance in Week 1 as it beat Youngstown State 28-6. The Spartans' road to glory is already fraught with peril (though the road date with Notre Dame doesn't look quite as daunting as it did a week ago), so a quick start to this weekend's matchup with woeful Florida Atlantic should help convince voters that the MSU offense does actually match the hype.

23/20. Penn State

The Nittany Lions made a big splash with their easy dismantling of Indiana State in season-opening action. Splashes don't have much effect on the ocean, though, and wouldn't you know it -- the Tide's coming in to Happy Valley this week. Suffice it to say, PSU's either going way up or way down in the rankings after facing Alabama.

Others receiving votes:

Northwestern (40 AP votes, 30 Coaches votes), Iowa (29 AP votes, 44 Coaches votes), Michigan (17 AP votes, 15 Coaches votes).
Posted on: September 6, 2011 7:16 pm
Edited on: September 6, 2011 7:35 pm
 

Big 12 Poll Reactions, Week 1

Posted by Tom Fornelli

Now that actual games have been played, the polls actually carry some kind of weight. Sure, the majority of schools in the country played lightweights this week, but at least we got to see them on a field actually playing football. It's a lot easier to judge the strength of a team that way -- and much more accurate -- than staring at a depth chart.

So let's take a look at where the teams of the Big 12 landed on the latest AP poll.

1. Oklahoma - Shocking update here. The team that started the year on the top of the poll went out, won a game rather easily, and stayed on top of the poll. Not that the Sooners don't deserve to be here, mind you. They went out and did exactly what you expect a team of this caliber to do against an inferior opponent on Saturday night. The offense did churn out 663 yards and 47 points after all, so it's rather hard to say that Oklahoma doesn't deserve this ranking. That being said, in a perfect world where preconceived notions didn't exist, you could argue that LSU deserves to be on top considering it demolished a fellow top five opponent on Saturday.

7. Texas A&M - It seems the voters were just as impressed as I was with the Aggies on Sunday night in their 46-14 win over SMU, as Texas A&M jumps up a spot from No. 8 to No. 7. I'll admit I had some doubts about Texas A&M being ranked so high coming into the season, but if Ryan Tannehill continues to play like he did against SMU all season, and that Aggies defense keeps on terrorizing quarterbacks, they'll be up here for a while.

9. Oklahoma State - The voters still think you're good, Oklahoma State. Even if you wore what might be the worst uniform combination of the hundred or so different ones you now have. It's just the voters weren't impressed enough with your win over Louisiana-Lafayette to justify moving you further up in the polls, and that's the right call in my opinion. Yes, the offense exploded for 61 points, but it does have to be somewhat concerning that you allowed 24 points to a Sun Belt school, doesn't it? How about the fact that Brandon Weeden managed to throw three interceptions against a Sun Belt defense as well? That won't fly against bigger opponents, and the Cowboys get a bigger test this week against Arizona.

20. Baylor - Hello, Baylor! While I've loved you for a few years now thanks to the turbo boosters located on Robert Griffin's shoulder and feet, it seems the rest of the world was introduced to your special brand of roller coaster football on Friday night. Will you be able to keep edging out 50-48 victories through the entire year? Probably not, but a victory over TCU is still something to be proud of, and this spot in the polls is well-deserved. Even if it does turn out to be short-lived.

21. Missouri - I thoroughly enjoyed having college football back last week, and the five straight days of games at my disposal, but there were a few hours on Saturday morning I didn't enjoy quite as much as the rest. Yes, Missouri won, but it was not a pretty victory. Nor did it come cheap as the Tigers not only lost two defensive starters, but a running back as well. The pollsters may have enough faith in you to allow you to stay at 21 this week, Mizzou, but personally I don't think you deserve this spot just yet. I had high hopes coming into the season, so it's up to you to restore my faith, James Franklin.

24. Texas - I'm sorry, Longhorns, but I didn't get to see your game on Saturday night because I'm part of the 98% of the country that doesn't get the Longhorn Network. So because of that fact, it'd be incredibly unfair of me to judge whether or not you belong in this spot just yet. That being said, you are Texas, and you won a game easily against Rice, so this is where you find yourself. Congratulations, you're behind Baylor.
 
 
 
 
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