Tag:Poll Reactions
Posted on: October 17, 2011 12:39 am
 

SEC Poll Reactions, Week 7

Posted by Jerry Hinnen

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the SEC fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.


(AP/Coaches)

1/2. LSU

At this point, the Tigers clearly care more about what's going on in the BCS standings -- where they also rank No. 1, by the slimmest of margins over their  Tuscaloosa rivals -- than in the AP or Caoches polls. But since the AP does crown half of the national championship and the Coaches poll is a full third of the BCS formula and the Harris Poll tends to track both traditional polls closely, no one's going to start ignoring the AP or coaches in Baton Rouge (or anywhere else) anytime soon.

As for those polls' treatment of the Tigers this week, it was mostly the same-ol'-same-ol'; LSU is still No. 1 in the media balloting by a relatively comfortable margin, No. 2 in the Coaches behind Oklahoma, and ahead of No. 3 Alabama in that poll by a slim margin. But worth noting this week is that LSU and Alabama have dramatically closed the gap on the Sooners. Despite Oklahoma still commanding the lion's share of first-place votes (31 to LSU's 15 and Alabama's 12), LSU stands only 16 points out of first place, and Alabama only 7 additional points behind LSU. The 23 points separating the top three teams is nearly seven times smaller the margin between the Tide and No. 4 Wisconsin.

In other words: the way LSU and Alabama are annihilating opponents right now, the Sooners had best not put anything less than their best foot forward if they want to stay atop the Coaches.

2/3. ALABAMA

Aside from the same closing of the gap in the Coaches just described for LSU, it was business-as-usual for the Tide after their 52-7 demolition of Ole Miss. We've said for many weeks that both of the SEC's top dogs deserve to get the nod over the Sooners, since the Tide and Tigers have each been every bit as dominant while playing decisively more difficult schedules than Oklahoma's; it's nice to see the BCS agree.

10/10. ARKANSAS

The Hogs enjoyed a bye week but still moved up a spot in the Coaches, thanks to previous No. 10 Michigan falling from the ranks of the unbeaten. No movement in the AP, though, with teams 1-through-9 all winning. Arkansas remains the second-highest-ranked team with a loss, behind Oregon  ... but shouldn't they be ahead of the Ducks? Both teams' only loss came to one of the LSU/Alabama juggernauts, but while the Hogs have defeated two other top-25 teams in Texas A&M and Auburn, Arizona State is the only Duck victory of note. The Hogs should move up.

14/12. SOUTH CAROLINA

The Wolverines' fall results in the Gamecocks moving up a slot in both polls. But we're not sure anyone who watched Carolina survive Mississippi State by the skin of their teeth truly believes the Gamecocks are one of the top 15 teams in the country. Of the seven collective losses suffered by the polls' consensus top 16 teams, Carolina's is the only one that didn't either come 1. to an undefeated team 2. on the road.

19/23. AUBURN.

With the Tigers' offense still sputtering, the eye test suggests Auburn is ranked about where it deserves to be at 5-2 overall and 3-1 in the SEC. But does that give Gene Chizik's team enough credit for its schedule-to-date? Between handing South Carolina its only loss so far (and in Columbia, no less), beating two other middle-of-the-pack SEC teams, and only losing to two top-10 teams at those team's places, it's not surprising the BCS computers call Auburn the nation's No. 14 team.

24 (tie)/unranked. GEORGIA

The Bulldogs reenter the AP poll at its very bottom, one notch ahead of Penn State. But while we'd like to give the Dawgs credit for losing their two games to a pair of top-15 teams, we think the Coaches have it right in selecting the Nittany Lions instead; PSU has one fewer loss, their win over Iowa is just as impressive as any on UGA's resume so far, and it's not like the Lions' only loss of the season (a 27-11 defeat to Alabama) isn't entirely understandable. 
Posted on: October 16, 2011 6:59 pm
Edited on: October 16, 2011 7:00 pm
 

Big 12 Poll Reactions, Week 7

Posted by Tom Fornelli

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Big 12 fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches) 

3/1. Oklahoma

Another win and another week where Oklahoma doesn't move in either poll. I've already made my argument about how I feel that LSU and Alabama should be ahead of the Sooners in both polls, but if you actually saw how Oklahoma played against Kansas on Saturday night, then maybe a few more of you agree with me. Oklahoma spent the first half of the game sleepwalking like it expected Kansas just to get out of its way and let the Sooners score all the touchdowns they wanted. Given the way the Kansas defense played most of the year, it's hard to blame Oklahoma for feeling that way. Still, if you're the best team in the country, you come out and play like it every week for a full 60 minutes no matter who the opponent is.

6/6. Oklahoma State

The Cowboys moved up a spot in the Coaches Poll this week, and I'm guessing it's because the Cowboys beat Texas while Boise State destroyed Colorado State. One of those wins is a bit more impressive than the other, don't you think? The only beef I have with Oklahoma State's spot in the coaches' poll is that it's behind Stanford, and I think the Cowboys have a stronger resume than the Cardinal at this point. Of course, Oklahoma State still controls its own destiny, so as long as it keeps winning, it'll get near the top of the poll at the best time to be there: the end of the season.

12/16 Kansas State

Kansas State moves up five spots in the AP poll following its win over Texas Tech, but only two spots in the coaches' poll. I feel like we could change the name of this post to "Tom Hates The Coaches Poll." How a 6-0 team in a BCS conference can find itself behind seven other teams with a loss on its record will forever baffle me. The AP poll doesn't escape from this entirely, either, as there are three teams with a loss ahead of Kansas State in that poll as well. Will Kansas State be a top ten team when the year is finished? There's no way to know for sure, but I do know that there are only ten FBS schools with an unbeaten record left and Kansas State is one of them right now.

17/18 Texas A&M

If Texas A&M's offense plays like it did against Baylor for the rest of the season then the Aggies are going to crush a lot of dreams in the Big 12 before this season is over. That being said, as impressive as the Aggies looked, a two-loss team probably shouldn't be this high right now. Though I won't offer that much of an argument against it since the two teams A&M lost to are 6-0 Oklahoma State and 5-1 Arkansas. So I may feel that the Aggies are a bit too high, but I also can understand the argument for it.

Others Receiving Votes

Baylor (19 AP votes/9 Coaches votes), Texas (12 AP votes/26 Coaches votes)
Posted on: October 16, 2011 6:25 pm
 

ACC poll reactions, Week 7

Posted by Chip Patterson

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the ACC fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches)

8/8. Clemson

 Those who have been claiming this could be a special year for Clemson football received some great support from the Tigers' come-from-behind performance.  Entering as a touchdown favorite over their division rivals at Maryland, Clemson sputtered and found themselves facing an 18-point deficit.  Only one other time in program history (1992 against Virginia) has a Clemson team come back from an 18+ point deficit to win.  Saturday's game was the perfect example of the type of loss that has frustrated Clemson fans for the last two decades.  A talented roster with conference title hopes shows up flat and gets stunned in a game they should win.  That script was shredded by Sammy Watkins' school-record 345 all-purpose yards, keeping this new group of young Tigers undefeated and in the Top 10. 


16/14. Virginia Tech

After turning the corner against Miami, the Hokies continued to improve their offensive execution against a relentless Wake Forest defense.  After falling behind 14-0 early, Logan Thomas battled Virginia Tech back into the game and pulled away late with a 38-17 victory.  Thomas and star running back David Wilson combined for 524 all-purpose yards of offense, gashing an undersized Demon Deacons squad and controlling the pace of the game deep into the final quarter.  As usual, Frank Beamers squad has bounced back from an early loss and is playing some of their best ball in the conference season.  With Georgia Tech's loss, the Hokies are back in the race to defend their ACC Coastal Division crown.

20/19. Georgia Tech

Last week the Yellow Jackets got their first scare, and failure to improve on the offensive mistakes led to their first loss a week later.  Georgia Tech has slowly regressed as the season has progressed, and now Paul Johnson needs to find a way to re-focus this team.  Injuries on defense left Georgia Tech vulnerable to a physical Virginia rushing attack, and the Cavaliers exposed a uncharacterstic lack of physicality along the Tech offensive line.  Georgia Tech's fast start will give them one more chace in the eyes of the voters, but another performance like Saturday's loss to Virginia could drop them from their brief stay in the polls.

Others receiving votes: Wake Forest continues to collect some momentum from voters, even in their losing effort to Virginia Tech.  Despite suffering a loss at the hands of Miami, North Carolina still saw some action from the coaching poll voters.  The coaches/SIDs also showed some respect to Mike London and Virginia, who received a few votes in their poll.

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Posted on: October 16, 2011 6:09 pm
Edited on: October 16, 2011 6:12 pm
 

Pac-12 poll reactions, Week 7

Posted by Bryan Fischer

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Pac-12 fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches)

7/5. Stanford

No movement for the Cardinal in the polls for the first time in a while. Perhaps voters only watched the second half of their game against Washington State or checked the box score because Andrew Luck and the offense struggled early in the game before blowing things open late. The issue with this team will be that they haven't played a ranked team at all but that will change with a game against Washington this week and possibly another with USC in two weeks before the big November showdown with Oregon.

9/9. Oregon

It's rare to see two ties in the poll but that's what the Coaches Poll had and the Ducks were involved with one of them. They're still at nine in the AP behind Clemson but are tied with the Tigers in the coaches at eight. It speaks to the perception of Oregon, especially after beating Arizona State at home, that they could be tied with an undefeated team in the polls and into the top eight despite the season opening loss to LSU. They still control their own destiny for the Rose Bowl which is all a Pac-12 team can ask for at this point.

18/20. Arizona State

A big win over Utah one week, a big loss to Oregon the next. The good news is they put up enough of a fight to show voters that they still deserve to remain in the top 25. The Sun Devils fell six spots in the AP and five in the Coaches but have a schedule that allows them to win and move back up into the top 20. They look set to be the Pac-12 South division champion so it might just be a matter of time before they have a second shot at the Ducks.

22/24. Washington

A 5-1 start and plenty of momentum around the program under Steve Sarkisian and the Huskies find themselves back in the top 25 for the first time in over two years. It's actually been even longer since Washington was ranked in both polls, as they are this week, because you have to go all the way back to October 5, 2003. It might be a short-lived stay in the top 25 for the team however, with a trip to Palo Alto to play Stanford this week. Still, quite the accomplishment for Sarkisian and his team.

Others receiving votes: USC (87 points AP)


Posted on: October 10, 2011 3:40 pm
 

SEC Poll Reactions, Week 6

Posted by Jerry Hinnen

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the SEC fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.


(AP/Coaches)

1/2. LSU

No movement for LSU this week despite -- or, in the case of the AP, because of -- the dominant win over Florida. And barring something unforeseen this week against Tennessee, that won't likely change next week, either; the Tigers continue to enjoy a relatively comfortable lead at No. 1 in the AP, but in the Coaches are still closer to being passed by No. 3 Alabama (10 points behind, 11 first-place votes to LSU's 15) than they are to passing Oklahoma (25 points clear, 32 first-place votes).

2/3. Alabama

As we've written multiple times in this space, we're still of the belief that Alabama's overwhelming domination of a top-10 team like Arkansas and road victories top-25-caliber teams like Florida (pre-Brantley injury, anyway) and Penn State should have them a step ahead of Oklahoma--and in the mix for No. 1. But in a week where the Sooners and Bayou Bengals beat Texas and those same Gators by a combined 68 points, no one in Tuscaloosa can be surprised the Tide stayed where they were in last week's polls.

10/11. Arkansas

The Razorbacks defeated Auburn by 24 points the week after Auburn defeated South Carolina in South Carolina. The Gamecocks may be a different team with Connor Shaw at the helm rather than Stephen Garcia (may be; it was just Kentucky, after all), but for now, that's a comprehensive argument for Arkansas wearing the "third-best team in the SEC mantle." And maybe even the "best team with a loss" mantle; only Oregon is ranked higher.

15/13. South Carolina

Auburn's loss freed up the Gamecocks from the head-to-head loss ceiling; Shaw's performance likely reassued voters that they deserved the nod over similar one-loss teams like West Virginia or Nebraska. The result is that the Gamecocks are once again a consensus top-15 team. But should they be? Losing to Auburn at home isn't nearly the same as losing to LSU (in WVU's case) or Wisconsin (in Nebraska's). Until Shaw proves himself against more worthy competition, the Coaches' ranking of No. 13 strikes us as being on the high side.

24/unranked. Auburn

The Tigers hang on in the AP despite the debacle in Fayetteville, with the Coaches substantially less forgiving, placing the Tigers fourth in the "Also Receiving Votes" category. The split decision feels about right for Gene Chizik's squad, with their resume boasting both strong selling points (the win at Carolina, both losses coming on the road at top-10 teams) and big drawbacks (the lopsided nature of the losses, the skin-of-the-teeth wins over Utah State and Mississippi State).

Unranked/unranked. Florida

The Gators dropped out of both polls this week after getting drubbed by LSU. Though still at "No. 26" in each, Florida's fortunate to even be that close; their home win over Tennessee isn't as impressive now that Georgia beat the Vols just as convincingly in Knoxville, their other three wins are all against horrible teams, and the Gators couldn't stay within four touchdowns of either LSU or Alabama.

The result is that the SEC's much-lauded collection of eight ranked teams in the preseason has already been halved in the Coaches poll and nearly so in the AP. Fortunately, Georgia's return could be imminent if the Bulldogs can handle Vanderbilt this week.

Posted on: October 10, 2011 2:51 pm
Edited on: October 10, 2011 2:54 pm
 

Big Ten poll reactions, Week 6

Posted by Adam Jacobi

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Big Ten fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches) 

4/4. Wisconsin

This is right where I've got the Badgers, both in terms of resume and power. I'm more of a power guy when it comes to these rankings -- I think squabbling over the minutiae of Team X's non-conference opponents and Team Y's non-conference opponents and how those other teams have fared over the course of the season is of secondary importance to whether Team X can beat Team Y straight up -- but in terms of resume strength, Wisconsin's win over Nebraska is looking better and better than Oklahoma dispatching Florida State. Also I'm head over heels for Russell Wilson. But! I still think Oklahoma would beat Wisconsin, which is what matters, so let's keep the Badgers at 4 here and nobody has a valid gripe.

11/10. Michigan

The Wolverines passed their first road test with a 42-24 comeback win over Northwestern. Denard Robinson threw for over 300 yards and ran 25 times for over 100 more, but he also had to miss some time after taking a big hit. Robinson also threw three picks in the first half (though, to be fair, none in the second). Both of those could be troubling indicators for the rest of the season, considering the problems Robinson has had with both turnovers and injuries over his career. At any rate, I still don't have Michigan this high, but if UM goes to Michigan State and picks up a win there, it'll have earned a Top 10 spot. This should be a great game to watch this week.

14/14. Nebraska

On one hand: that was an impressive comeback win for the Cornhuskers over Ohio State. On the other hand: still no victories over ranked opponents, and the comeback probably doesn't happen if Joe Bauserman doesn't go all JOE BAUSERMANNNNN on the unsuspecting Nebraska fans eight rows up on every pass play. So I'm still not sold on Nebraska, but once you get past the Top 10 or so, college football is such a mess that it's all right if Nebraska's ranked here. I suppose.

16/15. Illinois

But if we're really being honest, it's probably Illinois and not Nebraska who deserves that spot at No. 14, because not only are the Illini undefeated, they've got the best win of the two teams with a comeback victory against Arizona State (currently ranked 18th or 20th, depending on which poll you trust, and if you trust the coaches poll I hate you). We'll have our first good point of comparison to make between the Illini and Huskers this week, as Ohio State comes to Champaign. If Illinois handles OSU with any measure of ease, it'll be time to start giving them a real push up the polls, and that ought to include jumping Nebraska.

23/19. Michigan State

I haven't found any stats on it, but Michigan State must have crushed Brigham Young East last week (I assume that's what the "BYE" on the Spartans' schedule stands for), because MSU made a nice little jump in both polls this week. I'm not high on MSU and haven't been since Notre Dame swallowed up that vaunted rushing attack back in Week 3. Redemption could come on Saturday when Michigan visits Spartan Stadium, and if Michigan State picks up the win, it'll probably deserve a spot in the rankings, right around here.

NR/25. Penn State

In this week's edition of The Coaches Poll Needs To Be Dumped In That Woodchipper From Fargo, we have Penn State being ranked 25th in the coaches poll. 24th in that poll? Baylor. Baylor! Baylor would destroy Penn State. Nobody who's participating in the coaches poll actually watches Penn State, clearly, they just see a Big Ten team at 5-1 and figure it's time to rank that team. No no no no. PSU had a nice win last Saturday beating Iowa 13-3, but that wasn't a Top 25 performance by any stretch, and nothing from the rest of Penn State's season (including squeakers against Temple and Indiana) indicates otherwise. In the AP poll, where the voters actually watch the games, Penn State is 30th. That's not even close! Why can't the world just ignore the coaches poll and why does the BCS have to factor it into its rankings argggghhhhhh

Also receiving votes:

Penn State (22 AP votes)
Posted on: October 10, 2011 2:02 pm
 

Pac-12 poll reactions, Week 6

Posted by Bryan Fischer

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Pac-12 fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches)

7/5. Stanford

Another week, another big win for Stanford behind a season's best performance from quarterback Andrew Luck, who passed for 370 yards and three touchdowns. Yes, Colorado is not even an average team but one still had to be impressed with how Stanford shut them down on defense and picked them apart on offense on their way to a 48-7 blow out at home. Despite the rout, the Cardinal dropped a spot in the Coaches Poll with Wisconsin moving up after a dominating victory on their bye week. Somethings don't make sense but Stanford is still in the driver's seat for a Rose Bowl and a Pac-12 title berth.

9/9. Oregon

The Ducks had a nice primetime Thursday game to leave an impression on the voters but that didn't translate into any movement in either poll. Of course, that's understandable considering Oregon has a loss on their record and none of the undefeated teams ahead of them lost this weekend. The injury to LaMichael James is concerning since he'll probably be out for a few games but Kenjon Barner and DeAnthony Thomas are more than able to pick up the slack. A big win against Arizona State could have pollsters moving them above some undefeated teams.

18/20. Arizona State

A big win over Utah on the road impressed some voters to move the Sun Devils up four spots to 18th in the AP Poll and four spots to 20th in the Coaches Poll. This sets up a top 20 match up with Oregon this week and all eyes will be on the defense as they try and slow down the Ducks offense. Dennis Erickson's squad has been forcing turnovers left and right and if they're to get a win at night in Autzen, they'll have to keep it up this week. A loss on Saturday probably drops them out of the top 25 but a win would likely move them into the top 15.

Others receiving votes: Washington (71 points AP/52 Coaches), USC (17 AP)


Posted on: October 10, 2011 1:37 pm
Edited on: October 10, 2011 3:46 pm
 

Big 12 Poll Reactions, Week 6

Posted by Tom Fornelli

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Big 12 fared, from the top of the polls to the bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches) 

3/1. Oklahoma

The Sooners don't budge in the polls this week after destroying Texas on Saturday, and while I think the Sooners have a much stronger case for being on top in both polls after that win, I don't really begrudge the AP voters for keeping them third either. So far this season the Sooners two biggest wins have come against a Texas team that it made look really bad on Saturday afternoon, and a Florida State team that just lost to Wake Forest this weekend. That kind of hurts Oklahoma's resume. That being said, LSU and Alabama are going to play each other in November, and as long as Oklahoma keeps on winning, it will likely end up playing for a BCS title.

6/7. Oklahoma State

Much like Oklahoma, the Cowboys don't move in the polls this week after annihilating Kansas on Saturday. Oklahoma State put up 70 points on the Jayhawks, and that was after it took its starters out with over three minutes left in the second quarter. I honestly believe that had Mike Gundy kept Brandon Weeden and company in for the entire sixty minutes, the Cowboys would have broken the century mark. They also might have climbed a spot or two in the rankings because of it.

17/18. Kansas State

This is about right for the Wildcats, as the team moved up three spots in both the AP and Coaches Poll this week. The Wildcats are undefeated, but aside from the win over Baylor, they haven't beat a really strong opponent yet. Yes, the win over Miami on the road was a nice win, but the Hurricanes are 2-3 this season with their only wins coming over Bethune Cookman and a bad Ohio State team. Not that any of this is Kansas State's fault, but until the Wildcats host the Sooners at the end of the month, we won't have a great idea of what exactly we have in Manhattan. Though a win over a Texas Tech team that gave Texas A&M trouble on Saturday night in Lubbock this weekend would make things a bit clearer as well.

20/24. Baylor

I really don't understand why the coaches have no respect for this Baylor team yet. It's only loss of the year has come against an unbeaten Kansas State, and it had a win over TCU to start the season. I've been more impressed with what Baylor has done this season than I have Texas A&M and Texas, yet both of those schools are ahead of them in the Coaches Poll.

21/23. Texas A&M

When the season is over, will Texas A&M be one of the 25 best schools in the country? I'd say, barring some more late collapses, yes. Though that doesn't mean a team that is 3-2 should be ranked right now, especially when both those losses -- which did come against ranked teams -- came in such embarrassing fashion.

22/21 Texas

I said last week that I felt like the Longhorns were ranked a bit too high compared to what they had actually accomplished on the season, and I think that came through on Saturday. This is a young team with a lot of talent and a lot to learn still, and this is the first time all season in which I feel the voters have Texas pegged just right. A good team, but not upper echelon.

Others Receiving Votes

Texas Tech

The Red Raiders lost some support from voters this week, as they showed up on only two ballots in the AP voting and nine coaches ballots. Which makes sense because Tech is coming off a loss, and though it's 4-1 on the year none of those four victories are anything you'd want to brag about. Something that could change when Kansas State comes to town on Saturday. If Tech wins that game then it's going to crack the Top 25.
 
 
 
 
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