Tag:Recruiting Rules
Posted on: August 5, 2008 1:26 am
Edited on: August 5, 2008 1:46 am
 

Dear Gary (on UNC, Elite Camps, etc)

Here's Tuesday's Dear Gary ...

Dear Gary: I have a few questions for you about college basketball. I know North Carolina holds some kind of tournament or skills camp at the Dean Dome for high school players every summer. Is that the same thing as an Elite Camp?  Also every summer I hear about how our players get to play against UNC alums (NBA players former and current) in pickup games. I know that if you play on/against a professional sports team before you go to college you lose your amateur status. Why can you play against a pro once you're in college?  Does it have to do with the NBA players taking summer school classes?  I also wanted to say THANKS for giving us real coverage of college basketball and the way things really work in recruiting and officiating.  It's always a real eye-opener and NO ONE else does it nationally that I have found. Keep up the good work!

-- Chris
 
OK, Chris.

Let's take these one at a time.

Q: I know North Carolina holds some kind of tournament or skills camp at the Dean Dome for high school players every summer. Is that the same thing as an Elite Camp?

A: I believe what you're referencing is the Bob Gibbons Tournament of Champions, which is one of the more prestigious AAU tournaments. It's an annual event that attracts most of the best summer teams to the campuses of North Carolina, Duke and North Carolina State each May. And though it's another "creative" way to get prospects on campus (for UNC, Duke and N.C. State, at least), no, it is not an Elite Camp. The Elite Camp is something totally different.

Q: Also every summer I hear about how our players get to play against UNC alums (NBA players former and current) in pickup games. I know that if you play on/against a professional sports team before you go to college you lose your amateur status. Why can you play against a pro once you're in college?  Does it have to do with the NBA players taking summer school classes?

A: Those games you hear about are between former Tar Heels and current Tar Heels, and they are OK because, well, I don't really know. I just know they are OK, per NCAA rules. Where schools run into problems -- like UNC did with Iman Shumpert -- is when recruits participate in pick-up games -- or have any substantial interaction - with former players because former players are considered representatives of the school (just like boosters) and are thus forbidden from interaction with recruits. Simplified, recruits can talk with current students and current players but not with former students or former players (but former players can hang with current players all day long).

(Does that make sense?)

As for the part about former players taking summer school classes, well, that's the loophole, if you will. Remember the Shumpert story from last year? It was OK for him to talk with Marvin Williams and Raymond Felton because they were enrolled in summer classes and were labeled as current students and allowed current students' rights. Sean May, on the other hand, was not enrolled in summer classes at the time. Consequently, he was considered a former player and representative of North Carolina, which means he was forbidden from interacting with a prospect like Shumpert.

(Does that make sense?)

Anyway, I hope that cleared some things up.

And, in all seriousness, thanks for the kind words at the end of your note.

You keep reading.

I'll keep trying to tell you how things really work, best I can.

 
 
 
 
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