Tag:Michigan State
Posted on: January 26, 2009 3:09 pm

Dear Gary (on ranking Texas ahead of MSU)

Here's Monday's Dear Gary ...

Dear Gary: How can you rank Texas ahead of Michigan State? Texas has four losses and Michigan State has three. Plus, Michigan State BEAT Texas! You should be Poll Attacked!

-- Ben

I addressed this issue on one of the message boards, but I'll do it here, too, just to make sure everybody sees it. Because, honestly, I think any criticism about me having Texas ranked ahead of Michigan State in the Top 25 (and one) is fair, which is another way of saying that I believe I probably got it wrong.

To be clear, I like Texas.

The Longhorns have wins over Wisconsin, Villanova, UCLA and Texas A&M, and their four losses are all reasonable (except, perhaps, the one that came at Arkansas). Problem is, one of the losses was to Michigan State, and that should always be a tiebreaker when comparing comparable teams, the head-to-head match-up. And Michigan State won the head-to-head match-up. But the other problem with ranking Texas ahead of Michigan State is that Michigan State actually has the better body of work, particularly when you consider that the Spartans have a nation-high eight victories against schools ranked in the Top 50 at CollegeRPI.com.

Bottom line, I have no problem admitting when I mess-up.

And I think I might've messed this up.

But the good news is that when I mess-up it's the difference between No. 8 and No. 9, and not something crazy like what we see weekly in the AP and Coaches polls. And for that, I invite you to tune in a little later on today, when the Poll Attacks put real ignorance on display.

Meantime, here's how I wish I'd done the Top 10 (in hindsight):

1. Duke

2. Connecticut

3. Pittsburgh

4. Oklahoma

5. Wake Forest

6. North Carolina

7. Louisville

8. Michigan State

9. Texas

10. Marquette  

Posted on: November 13, 2008 11:51 am
Edited on: November 13, 2008 1:25 pm

Dear Gary (on a dumb Big Ten reader)

Here's Thursday's Dear Gary ...

Dear Gary: Not that preseason projections are ever worth two cents, but your projections are pretty nuts. You only have Michigan State as a No. 3 seed? I promise (the Spartans) will earn a No. 2 seed at least. You also only have four teams from the Big Ten making the NCAA tournament. Even in down years the Big Ten earns five spots. There will be at least six Big Ten teams in the tournament this year. It seems that the bad press the Big Ten has received in football is spreading.

-- Todd

Seriously folks, this is what I deal with regularly.

Just idiots.

I got this email this morning (which I'll destroy momentarily) in addition to another last night from a guy named Bobby, who wrote (and I quote): "Basketball has not even started yet dumbass!" Of course, basketball started Monday afternoon, but whatever. You can't expect Bobby to keep up with the rest us.

Anyway, now to Todd, who is equally stupid, although I admit it is pretty nuts for me to project Michigan State as a No. 3 seed when Todd thinks Michigan State will be a No. 2 seed. I mean, that's a difference of like one whole seed. It's crazy! So you can see where he's coming from, I guess.

As for Todd's other promise -- that there will be at least six Big Ten teams in the tournament this season -- I'll just say I can't imagine it happening. Four is likely, five is a stretch and six seems downright impossible. But that's merely a difference of opinion, and we can all disagree on stuff like that in November.

That said, Todd's belief that the Big Ten gets five spots even in "down years" is uninformed.

What was last season, Todd?

The Big Ten only got four berths last season.

And what was 2004, Todd?

The Big Ten only got three berths that season.

I guess those were really, really, really, down years as opposed to just the plain old down years Todd was referencing. That's probably what he meant, right? Because he couldn't have possibly been spouting off statistics that don't hold up under even one year of research. Because that would be dumb, and Todd couldn't possibly be that dumb, could he?

Posted on: September 3, 2008 4:35 pm
Edited on: September 3, 2008 6:27 pm

It's offcial: Wisconsin is usually underrated

Robbie Allen over at StatSheet.com has updated his site, which is full of -- take a guess -- stats.

The newest college basketball addition deals with where teams are in preseason polls relative to where they finish in an attempt to genuinely learn which are the most-overrated and most-underrated programs in America. It's neat stuff. And I was not surprised to learn that Wisconsin is consistently underrated because that belief is what led me to promise to never again leave the Badgers unranked in a preseason poll as long as Bo Ryan is the coach.

According to StatSheet.com, Wisconsin has been ranked in either the preseason or final AP poll six of the past seven seasons and finished higher in the final AP poll than it was in the first AP poll in five of those six seasons. Just last season, the Badgers started unranked before finishing sixth in the final AP poll.

As for the overrated teams, try Michigan State and Arizona.

The Spartans have finished lower in the final AP poll than they were in the preseason AP poll six of the past seven seasons, and at least 10 spots lower in five of the past seven seasons. Arizona, meantime, has also finished lower in the final AP poll than it was in the preseason AP poll six of the past seven seasons, which might be evidence that, yes, voters give the big-name programs the benefit of the doubt more often than not because it's difficult to find bigger names than Michigan State and Arizona.

Posted on: August 5, 2008 11:07 pm
Edited on: August 5, 2008 11:07 pm

Michigan State freshman has knee surgery

From the better-now-than-later department comes word that Delvon Roe had surgery on his left knee Tuesday afternoon.

And Tom Izzo is ... ecstatic?

"I couldn’t be more ecstatic about the news," Izzo said in a statement. "While this is a minor setback for Delvon, we are glad that he will be able to return to action by the time practice starts in mid-October.”

In all seriousness, that's the good news -- that Roe might actually be healthy in time for the start of his freshman campaign. He had surgery on his right knee in December and has been hobbled ever since. Recently, the left knee began to swell. So the Dr. Mike Shingles scheduled an exploratory surgery and spent Tuesday removing small particles of cartilage that should have the 6-foot-8 forward ready in six weeks.

Till then, he rests.
Category: NCAAB
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