Posted on: April 5, 2009 4:22 pm

Apparently, I'm Not The Only One . . .

A while back, I wrote a blog expressing my irritation with the excessive arguing among Packers fans and the rift it caused.  I tried not to be offensive, but I was annoyed by the constant bickering and name calling.  I missed the days when we were all simply Packers fans, no categories attached (Favre-hater or Thompson-lover).  So, when I went to the JSOnline board, a place I frequently visit, I was pleased to read this plea from Greg A. Bedard in his Packers Daily Briefing entry for today (April 5th), which reminded me that I'm not alone:


A small, minor request: Can you all just grow up? Can't Packers Nation come here and just have a respectful debate over the topics of the day? Why does everything have to devolve into name-calling? Is it too much to ask for you all to be adults?

Come on, kids come here to read up on their favorite team. Can you keep that in mind as you decide whether or not to post some of the despicable things your write.

Please, you're Packers fans. Start to act like it, will you? Or move to Detroit.

Couldn't agree more, and this from a professional journalist.  My entire point can be summed up by this "Pause for the Clause": the problem is not that fans disagree; it is that they resort to name calling to make their point.  So, maybe there is some growing to do.  The Packers community could benefit from more respect.  I am sure the types of people I (and Bedard) are referring to remain a minority.  There are many fans who can disagree in a way that does not resort to aggression.  I am just tired of the types described in both mine and Bedard's blog entry.

It is just a relief to read someone articulate my frustrations in such an honest way.  At least, as long as that doesn't make me the bad guy.

Posted on: March 23, 2009 5:49 pm
Edited on: March 25, 2009 1:29 am

Discussing Packers Football Is Not Fun Anymore

Edit: this blog in no way promotes censorship.  People are free to post what they want.  This is just an honest explanation as to why I have been absent from the Packers board for a while, and not a complaint.  Read it with this in mind: people have the right to think and write what they want; my position is that the disagreement seems too much of a rift among the fans and the arguing is often uncivil.  I just hope for a truce.

It has been a while since I last posted on the Packers message board; in fact, I haven't even looked at the board for nearly as long.  The reason why I am now writing a blog after a long period of silence is because it is the only place I feel I can openly express my opinions without the threat of a negative response.  This is not to suggest that I am not willing to debate a point (I'm not afraid of a little conflct); I'm just tired of it.  The arguments are getting old and they seem to be the only ones I find on the Packers board.  Without even glancing at the message board, I can guess what the topics are:

Ted Thompson is a horrible general manager

                            Will we ever sign a free agent?

                                       This free agent is worth considering

                                                   Brett Favre, Brett Favre, How I Love Thee . . .

                                                            Aaron Rodgers can't win close games (or that he sucks)

                                                                       The 3-4 defense will be awful next year or

                                                                                 The 3-4 defense is the right direction for this team

                                                                                                                     Who Thompson should draft

                                                                                                                              Resigning Bush was a stupid move

                                                                                                                            Oh, and of course, fire TT and MM

Some of these topics are common to most boards, but it is not necessarily the general subject matter that irritates me.  The problem I have is with the division among Packers fans.  You are either a Favre hater or a Thompson lover.  Or, you are not a true Packers fan.  Whatever the case, no longer does it seem that the Packers board is a safe place to simply show your support for the team.  In fact, it seems more people want the team to fail and root against them.  I could probably have more civil conversations with fans of the Packers rivals.  The question is "when will Packers fans ever move past this controversy and learn to put the team first?"  It won't happen.  I expect it to be a battle among the Packers community.  No one will win and no one will admit wrong, no matter how the team does in the future.

Simply Put: the Packers board is just not that fun anymore (unless you enjoy the futile debates).  It seems impossible to have a light-hearted conversation about the Packers without conflict.  Will that happen?  I hope so.  It would be nice to participate on the threads again.

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