Tag:Greg Maddux
Posted on: October 31, 2011 12:44 pm
Edited on: October 31, 2011 12:54 pm
 

Next stop, Cooperstown (with Cox and Torre?)

There's absolutely no doubt that Tony La Russa is headed to the Hall of Fame.

And what a Hall of Fame class it could be.

La Russa will be eligible for a December 2013 vote on the "expansion era" ballot for managers and executives, on a ballot that will also include Bobby Cox, Joe Torre and John Schuerholz, among others. The ballot for managers and executives is separate from the player ballot, but Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine will appear on the player ballot for the first time that same year.

All of them could be part of the same induction ceremony in July 2014.

La Russa, Cox, Torre and Schuerholz would be voted on by a 16-member panel, and each would require 12 votes to be elected. There is no maximum on the number of managers or executives voted in in any one year (although each of the 16 voters has a maximum of five votes).

Posted on: February 12, 2010 11:53 am
Edited on: February 12, 2010 11:54 am
 

The no-doubt Hall of Famers

When the Hall of Fame ballot came out in December, I looked at it once, looked at it twice, looked at it again a week later.

There were good names on it (and some bad ones, too). But this was a year where the best candidates fit into the grey area, the debatable area, the area that leads to the great Hall of Fame arguments.

The area that Greg Maddux, Randy Johnson and Tom Glavine don't fit in. The area that Frank Thomas doesn't fit in.

The no-doubt area.

The only question we need to ask is when we can vote them in. And stick with us, because if you haven't been paying close attention, it gets a little tricky.

Glavine announced his retirement Thursday. Thomas announced his retirement today. But since neither of them played in the major leagues in 2009, they'll be eligible in 2014 (or in the December 2013 voting, if you prefer).

In other words, they'll be eligible the same year as Maddux, who announced his retirement more than a year ago. They'll be eligible a year earlier than Johnson, even though he announced his retirement a month before they did.

It's important, because these are guys who have credentials so obvious (and who, so far, aren't steroid-tainted) that they should be first-ballot Hall of Famers.

How can you argue with Glavine, who has the fourth-most wins of any left-hander all-time? How can you argue with Thomas, who for seven straight years finished in the Top 10 in American League MVP voting, winning it back-to-back in 1993 and '94?

Phil Rogers made the argument in the Chicago Tribune that Thomas was the best right-handed hitter in baseball from 1990-97. I'm not sure I'd go that far, but by any numbers you want to go by (traditional or sabermetric), Thomas was a great hitter. There were opposing pitchers who made fun of his "Big Hurt" nickname, but few who really wanted to face him.

The late Vern Plagenhoef, who covered the Tigers for many years and taught me more than anyone about this business, used to say that there should only be one vote on every Hall of Fame candidate -- yes or no, he's a Hall of Famer, or he's not. If they're Hall of Famers, they should stand out, and you shouldn't need multiple votes.

Frank Thomas stands out, just as Maddux, Johnson and Glavine stand out.

Those ballots, I could fill out today.

 
 
 
 
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