Tag:Joe Torre
Posted on: October 31, 2011 12:44 pm
Edited on: October 31, 2011 12:54 pm
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Next stop, Cooperstown (with Cox and Torre?)

There's absolutely no doubt that Tony La Russa is headed to the Hall of Fame.

And what a Hall of Fame class it could be.

La Russa will be eligible for a December 2013 vote on the "expansion era" ballot for managers and executives, on a ballot that will also include Bobby Cox, Joe Torre and John Schuerholz, among others. The ballot for managers and executives is separate from the player ballot, but Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine will appear on the player ballot for the first time that same year.

All of them could be part of the same induction ceremony in July 2014.

La Russa, Cox, Torre and Schuerholz would be voted on by a 16-member panel, and each would require 12 votes to be elected. There is no maximum on the number of managers or executives voted in in any one year (although each of the 16 voters has a maximum of five votes).

Posted on: June 16, 2011 11:36 am
Edited on: June 16, 2011 6:03 pm
 

Eventually, they all return

For years, the Tigers wouldn't retire Sparky Anderson's number.

For months, the Yankees wouldn't speak Joe Torre's name.

On June 26, the Tigers will retire Sparky's No. 11. That same day, Torre will put on No. 6 for Old-Timers' Day in the Bronx.

The honors are deserved. The feuds were petty. They usually are.

And at least Torre has made up with the Yankees while he's still alive. The Tigers waited for Sparky's death last November to finally do the right thing and honor him.

Sparky left the Tigers on not-so-good terms at the end of the 1995 season. He came back for one Sparky Anderson Day, convinced that the Tigers were going to retire his number -- and they didn't. He came back two years ago, for the 25th reunion of his 1984 champions, but the honor was for the team, and not really for him.

Torre left the Yankees on not-so-good terms at the end of the 2007 season. When they closed old Yankee Stadium a year later, the Yankees pointedly left Torre's name completely off a video tribute. He came back last year for the unveiling of a monument to George Steinbrenner, but the Old-Timers' return feels more significant.

Old-Timers' Day means more for the Yankees than it does anywhere else -- do they even hold Old-Timers' Day anywhere else anymore? -- and thus Thursday's announcement of the 2011 participants held some significance.

Torre is on the list for the first time. So is Bernie Williams, who had his own not-so-good departure, but has since returned with some regularity -- and always to huge cheers. So is Lou Piniella.

They should be there. Torre should feel welcome at Yankee Stadium, just as Sparky Anderson should have always felt welcome at Comerica Park.

At some point, everyone remembers that. You just hope it's not too late.

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Speaking of not too late, good for the Padres for announcing Thursday that they'll retire Trevor Hoffman's No. 51 on Aug. 21. Not that it's a big surprise. Hoffman left the Padres on not-so-good terms in 2008, but he returned in a front-office role after retiring last year.
Posted on: April 14, 2011 6:10 pm
 

Instead of Mets, Cashman fires away at Torre

NEW YORK -- Brian Cashman has moved on.

The Mets aren't his target anymore. Now it's Joe Torre's turn.

At a press conference to announce that left-handed reliever Pedro Feliciano likely needs season-ending surgery, the Yankees general manager insisted he wasn't taking a shot at the Mets when he said Feliciano "was abused" when he made 92 appearances last year and 88 the year before.

"I'm not attacking the Mets," Cashman said. "I'm not throwing hand grenades their way."

Instead, Cashman talked about how Scott Proctor and other relievers were similarly overused when Torre was the Yankee manager. He said that he had gone so far as to ask Proctor to tell Torre he was hurting, so that Torre wouldn't use him.

"Did we have players here who were overused?" Cashman asked rhetorically. "Did I meet with Joe? Yes. I met with Proctor, and told him, 'You'd better stop telling Joe you can pitch.'

"There's no hypocrisy here."

Then, referring to current Yankee manager Joe Girardi, Cashman said, "That's stuff I don't have to worry about anymore."

Later, Cashman called Torre "old-school" in his approach to relievers.

"The old school is, 'I asked the reliever and he says he's fine,'" Cashman said. "We've had guys overused, but I went to everyone and tried to stop it. I went to the manager, the pitching coach, the player, the agent."

Cashman also said he believes Feliciano was hurt in spring training, and that he wasn't already damaged goods when the Yankees signed him to a two-year, $8 million contract.

"When we signed him, he was a known risk," Cashman said, referring to how much Feliciano had pitched. "But he didn't have a capsular tear, we don't believe."

Posted on: February 26, 2011 3:58 pm
 

With Torre, will discipline system change?

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- Joe Torre got a nice new title Saturday.

Should you care?

Maybe you should, depending on how Torre handles baseball's discipline issues, in his new role as the executive vice president for baseball operations.

Will there be a significant difference from the way Frank Robinson handled the job? No one ever seemed happy with any of their decisions. Will it be the same with Torre?

Will he be more conciliatory with the umpires?

Saturday, at the press conference to announce his new job, Torre suggested he might be.

"We put everything on the umpires," Torre said. "Everything is put on the umpires, and then when they miss a call, we have another reason not to like them. I don't like that part of it. The umpires are a part of this game, and we're all in this game to make it better.

"To me, that's something that needs to be addressed."

But Torre also suggested that he would like to see fewer players ejected from games.

"The umpires are sometimes a little quick on the trigger," Torre said. "I don't mind managers getting thrown out, but people play to watch players play. Try to do what you can to keep them in the game."

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When he left the Dodgers at the end of last season, the 70-year-old Torre didn't completely close the door to managing again.

Saturday, he came closer to doing that.

Asked if the door is still open now, he said, "It's shut in my mind."

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Bud Selig, on the Miguel Cabrera situation:

"I'm proud of the way the Tigers handled it. He got the best kind of medical attention. He will be under a very, very tough program, and that's for his benefit. I'm satisfied with the way it's been handled. We followed exactly what [the doctors] said we should do."

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Torre, on his relationship with the Yankees:

"I'm fine. I'm back on solid ground again."
Category: MLB
Posted on: September 17, 2010 3:14 pm
Edited on: September 17, 2010 3:36 pm
 

Mattingly to take over for Torre in LA

Joe Torre will step down as Dodgers manager at the end of the season, and hitting coach Don Mattingly will replace him.

Torre's decision had been expected, and there has been speculation for weeks that he would be a candidate to take one of the many managerial openings this winter. But one person close to Torre said today that he thinks it's more likely that Torre won't manage again.

Mattingly, who came to the Dodgers with Torre after the 2007 season, had long been Torre's favored replacement, but there had been talk in recent weeks that the team might go with Triple-A manager Tim Wallach instead. Mattingly has never managed at any level, but the Dodgers said he intends to manage in the Arizona Fall League this year.

Torre never managed in the minor leagues before taking his first big-league job, with the Mets in 1977.

Torre, who turned 70 in July, has managed 29 seasons in the big leagues, taking teams to the postseason 15 times. The 15 appearances ties Bobby Cox for the most ever, although obviously Cox would top him if the Braves hang on and make it to the playoffs this year. Torre won four World Series, all in his 12 years with the Yankees.

The Dodgers made the playoffs in Torre's first two seasons in Los Angeles, and they won their first two postseason series since 1988.

Torre's decision to leave the Dodgers was first reported by Yahoo! Sports and the Los Angeles Times and was announced by the Dodgers a few minutes later.






Category: MLB
Posted on: September 5, 2010 10:31 pm
Edited on: September 6, 2010 9:18 am
 

3 to watch: The Saving the Padres edition

Last Friday, the Padres had a seven-game losing streak, and we told you that it was all right, because five of the last 10 teams to make the World Series had a seven-game losing streak at some point during the season.

Now the Padres have a 10-game losing streak. Any chance history can help?

Not really. Of the 350 teams that have made it to the postseason, only two had a 10-game losing streak. Those two were 1951 Giants (think Bobby Thomson) and the 1982 Braves (think . . . Joe Morgan?).

The Braves were in first place, 6 1/2 games ahead, when they slipped up against the Giants in the middle of August and went on a losing streak that lasted 11 games. They actually lost 15 of 16, going from 6 1/2 up to four games behind, before recovering. They won the division on the final day of the season, when Morgan's seventh-inning home run for the Giants eliminated the second-place Dodgers.

And who managed that Braves team? Joe Torre, whose Dodgers play in San Diego this week. So as the Dodgers try to extend the Padres' misery, Torre can explain to Bud Black that this crazy season can still be rescued.

On to 3 to watch, with a reminder that two of the big series this coming weekend actually begin on Thursday (Giants at Padres, Cardinals at Braves):

1. For all the fuss over Manny Ramirez, the most significant acquisition the White Sox made this summer may have been Edwin Jackson. In five starts for the Sox, Jackson is 3-0 with a 1.47 ERA. Meanwhile, the guy he was traded for, Daniel Hudson, has gone 4-1 with a 1.99 ERA in seven starts for the Diamondbacks. And the guy Jackson was traded for last winter, Max Scherzer, is 8-4 with a 1.90 ERA in his last 16 starts for the Tigers. We bring all this up because Jackson faces Scherzer, in White Sox at Tigers, Monday afternoon (1:05 ET) at Comerica Park . This is a big week for the White Sox, because they need to stay close enough to the Twins to make next week's three-game showdown in Chicago meaningful.

2. It's not that long ago that the Padres' big Mat Latos question was how they would hold their 22-year-old ace within his innings limit. Now, with Latos scheduled to start in Dodgers at Padres, Monday night (10:05 ET) at Petco Park , it's whether Latos can be the guy who stops this losing streak. Latos hasn't gone more than two starts without a win all season, and he's at two now, having taken a no-decision in a 3-2 loss to the Phillies (while allowing just one run in seven innings) and again in a 5-2 loss to the Diamondbacks (while allowing just one run in six innings). Of course, before this losing streak began, the Padres hadn't lost more than three in a row all year.


3. Two Septembers ago, when the Rays went into Fenway Park with a 1 1/2-game lead over the Red Sox, we still weren't sure the Rays were that good. Heck, they still weren't sure they were that good. "If you want to be true with it, you say you want to be who [the Red Sox] are," Rays veteran Cliff Floyd said that week. You can bet no one on the Rays will be saying they want to be what the Red Sox are this week. You can also bet that we'll have some memories of 2008, especially when 2008 playoff hero David Price starts for Tampa Bay in Rays at Red Sox, Tuesday night (7:10 ET) at Fenway Park .


Posted on: June 25, 2010 10:26 am
 

3 to watch: The Wrong place, wrong time edition

If we're going to have one final weekend of interleague play, we may as well have Dodgers-Yankees.

Too bad they put it in the wrong place.

Too bad that right before, or right after, Manny in Boston we didn't get Joe in New York.

Joe Torre against the Yankees is a nice little side story. Joe Torre against the Yankees in Yankee Stadium would have been a must-watch.

"It certainly would have been something that would have been exciting," Torre said last weekend. "There's no question."

A Torre appearance in Yankee Stadium wouldn't have presented Yankee fans with the same conflicted feelings that Manny Ramirez in Fenway Park presented the people of Boston. But it sure would have been interesting to see how Yankee management reacted, given the 2007 breakup and the Yankees' reluctance ever since then to acknowledge that Torre was such of big part of their recent history.

Torre against the Yankees at Dodger Stadium doesn't have the same feel. With the exception of Alex Rodriguez, the Yankee players have professed their love for their former manager (and vice-versa). There will be hugs all around.

And as for Torre at Yankee Stadium, there's always the World Series. Torre likes to remind people that the Dodgers were two wins away from giving him that return last October.

"That would have been pretty wild," he said.

It could still happen, but given the likelihood that Torre leaves the Dodgers after this season, it would probably need to happen this October.

In any case, Dodgers-Yankees is one of a few potential World Series previews on this final-weekend interleague schedule. You've also got Twins-Mets, Rockies-Angels and Tigers-Braves, as you can see on this weekend's edition of 3 to watch:

1. The Tigers don't say that Brennan Boesch is going to have a better career than Jason Heyward. But they do like to point out that right now, Boesch has better numbers than Heyward. In any case, in a year where the rookie class has been heavily tilted towards the National League, the Tigers are the exception, with an outstanding rookie class of their own. They'll show off another one -- 22-year-old left-hander Andy Oliver -- in Tigers at Braves, Friday night (7:35 EDT) at Turner Field . One rival scout who saw Oliver recently at Double-A Erie said "his stuff is electric," and predicted that at the very least the Tigers would use him as a nasty left-on-left reliever in September. Now, with Rick Porcello getting a tune-up at Triple-A Toledo, Oliver gets his chance early.

2. Torre made his feelings about the Dodger rotation known late in spring training, when he named Vicente Padilla as his opening day starter. No one -- then or now -- would call Padilla the Dodgers ace, but in Yankees at Dodgers, Friday night (10:10 EDT) at Dodger Stadium , he opposes Yankee ace CC Sabathia. It's hard to imagine the Dodgers spending money to add a true ace this summer, but it's hard to imagine them getting to that Torre-in-New York World Series without one.

3. We don't get Torre in New York, and we also don't get Johan in Minnesota, because Johan Santana's first-ever meeting with his former team comes in Twins at Mets, Saturday afternoon (1:10 EDT) at Citi Field . Oh well. At least we get Carl in New York. That's Carl Pavano, who starts for the Twins Saturday, and presents us with this question: When he gets booed, will it be because of the Mets fans who always boo any current or former Yankee (even Phil Coke of the Tigers on Thursday night), or will it be Yankee fans, who with good reason never warmed up to the guy who basically stole money from them for four years? One other starter who will be on the minds of fans of both of these teams: Cliff Lee. If the Twins and Mets are going to meet in October, you've got to figure that means one of them has traded for the left-hander whose presence in Philadelphia prevented Dodgers-Yankees last October.
Posted on: June 21, 2010 12:44 am
Edited on: June 21, 2010 11:22 am
 

3 to watch: The Good to see you? edition

When Manny Ramirez went back to Boston, we at CBSSports.com went there with him.

This week, Garret Anderson goes back to Anaheim, Chris Carpenter goes back to Toronto and Carlos Silva goes back to Seattle.

Sorry, we can't be everywhere.

For all the problems with interleague play, it does provide us with homecomings and get-togethers that we might never see otherwise. Like Joe Torre and the Yankees, who will meet up this weekend at Dodger Stadium but will no doubt talk about it all week.

"Those kids, they made me famous," Torre said, while overseeing the Manny-in-Boston circus over the past weekend. "It'll be a little tough. I've never pulled against them before. I've always pulled for them, even when I was watching the World Series [last fall]."

The Torre vs. Yankees story would have been more compelling if the games were at Yankee Stadium, because the people Torre clashed with in his final days in New York (and most of the people he complained about in his book) likely won't be at Dodger Stadium.

But it will still be Joe Torre, and it will still be the Yankees, and it will still make us tolerate interleague play, at least for a few more days.

With that, here's the next-to-last interleague edition of 3 to watch:

1. Stephen Strasburg's fourth start isn't a coming-home story, but we promised to highlight every Strasburg start, and the way he's going, we're not going to stop now. Besides, Herb Score struck out 16 in his fourth career start, so Strasburg has something to shoot for, in Royals at Nationals, Wednesday (4:35 EDT) at Nationals Park . Already, he has two double-digit strikeout games in his first three starts. But according to research through the baseball-reference.com play index , there are two other guys who had two double-digit strikeout games in their first three starts (Karl Spooner and Daisuke Matsuzaka). There's no one that baseball reference shows as having three double-digit strikeout games in their first four starts.

2. Carpenter was 49-50 in his six years with the Blue Jays. He's 76-25 in his six-plus years with the Cardinals. So maybe the fans in Toronto, where he'll pitch in Cardinals at Blue Jays, Wednesday night (7:07 EDT) at Rogers Centre , don't remember him as fondly as they remember his good friend Roy Halladay. Halladay will also face the Jays this week, but the G20 summit that forced this weekend's series to be moved from Toronto to Philadelphia denied the Doc his homecoming.

3. At least the Toronto fans don't dislike Carpenter. Not sure you can say the same about the Mariner fans and Silva, who they'll see again, in Cubs at Mariners, Thursday afternoon (3:40 EDT) at Safeco Field . Silva went 5-18 in his two seasons with the M's, after signing a ridiculous four-year, $48 million contract. He's 8-2 in two-plus months with the Cubs, which would make the contract look a lot less ridiculous, even if he hadn't helped the Cubs dispose of Milton Bradley (who will also face his old mates this week).

 
 
 
 
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