Posted on: January 21, 2010 3:20 pm
Edited on: February 8, 2010 3:04 pm
This is just the sign up page for the contest, not to be confused with week 1 picks, I will put up that thread the day after the Super Bowl.
Hello, and welcome back to RFG's Eliminator League. Last year the game was a big success, and I'm hoping that this year will be even better. Here's how the game works... you will pick a driver that you either think will win, or has the best chace of just getting you a good total, or both. Just pick one driver, their points get accumulated, and then after two weeks both your picks for both weeks will get added up, the person with the single lowest score, gets eliminated, its that easy...
Well those were the rules last year, this year will be a bit different, where you must pick 2 drivers, and not just one each week... and this is bound to make things more interesting, here is how it will work...
Weeks 1-2: These will just be practice weeks, people that miss both these weeks w/o an excuse will be eliminated from the game, yet if everyone participates, nobody will be eliminated this first session, just for people to get used to the game and get rid of the inactives. There will still be bonuses for winning this session, this session you may keep the same drivers for both races. (I will allow people to sign up for the game before week 3, but week 3 is the sign up deadline.)
Weeks 3-14: Each week, you must just change your lineup, in other words, you can keep one of your two drivers the same, as long as you change the other one, (Ex.= Week 3: J.J. and Jeff Gordon... Week 4: J.J. and Mark Matin is acceptable) now the only exception is that if you use the same driver for 4 consectutive races, I will make you switch him out, just don't want someone picking J.J. for all 12 races.
Weeks 15-26: You must switch both your drivers every week, meaning you must pick 4 different drivers each segment.
Weeks 26-27: You can only switch one driver out, in addition, a bonus maybe thrown in. X amount of people will be eliminated!
Weeks 28-30: You may switch one or both of your drivers, like weeks 3-14, yet this is a 3 week peroid, if you switch away from a driver, you can't pick him again, in addition, a bonus maybe thrown in. X amount of people will be eliminated!
Weeks 31-36: You must use 10 different drivers throughout the whole contest, like weeks 15-26, in addition, a bonus maybe throw in. The champion will be crowned at the end!
I look forward to playing again next year, and trying to decipher your cryptic rules.
Hopefully everyone understands this, lol, because Section's 30 computers will blow up again trying to figure this out if you can't... I'll try to explain it more clearly if there are lot of questions. The X's will be determined once I find out how many people are signed up.
Obviously by the way this is set up, I will need at least 19 people to sign up, but the more the merrier, there is no limit to how many can join... well... maybe if 30 people join I may cut it off...
Bonuses work the same as last year, where the winner of each session gets +10 points, a handicap list will still be given, and will be made on the next blog, the only exception is that for the first session, all of the top 3 will get +10 points, and this will not apply during chase weeks. Bonus points will be given throughout the chase with picking winning drivers, and from weeks 15-26, a save will be in a play for anyone that may be eliminated if they are in the top 3 of average session finish.
The bonuses for the chase are the same as last year, and go like this:
The person whom picks the most winning drivers will get +10 points for all 3 sessions.
The person whom picks the 2nd most winning drivers will get +10 points for the first two sessions.
The porson whom picks the 3rd most winning drivers will get +10 points for the first session.
(All ties will round bonus points down one level, where if there is a tie for 3rd, none of those people will get bonuses.)
People penciled in for spots:
Roushfenwayguy (go figure)
bored at work
People from last year that can pencil in a spot:
Of course anyone else can pencil in a spot as well, just pointing out the people that said that they will play this year and those that did play last year yet didn't confirm.
And I'm pretty sure that's it, so good luck to everyone this year and best hopes for a good season!
Posted on: November 28, 2009 11:45 am
Edited on: February 4, 2010 3:21 pm
Well, another year is gone, now its time to look back, and guess.... what will happen next year? Here is my predictions for the upcoming year. (The numbers in parenthesis, in order, are wins projected, top 5s projected, and top 10s projected.)
1.) Jimmie Johnson
Can he be stopped... who knows? This man has won four championships in a row, and the question isn't "Who can stop him?" but "Can anyone stop him?" He has just shown dominance throughout the chase since it started, losing the first one by only 8 points to Kurt Busch. So he is that close to having 5 of the 6 chase championships. Right now, its too hard to predict anyone that can get in his way, and who will it be? (7 - 16 - 25)
2.) Tony Stewart After a dissapointing chase from what he did before the chase, you have to wonder if he will do it again, or can he rebound. Tony Stewart did exceptionally well during the pre-chase season, and remember, it was his first year in the car. From what people were saying about Stewart, about him might not even making the chase, one just has to up their projections for this year, and who knows what he will really do? (5 - 14 - 24)
3.) Jeff Gordon Well if it isn't Mr. Bad luck in the chase Gordon. He is always a good competitor for the money, but never seems to pull it off. This year, its hard to project him to win the championship after a one win season, but a top 5 is almost a sure thing. Jeff Gordon will likely get more wins than he did last year, but the true question is, what track will throw away Jeff Gordon's hopes of winning the championship? (3 - 15 - 23)
4.) Carl Edwards This guy was deviled up in 2009, to say the least, yet its hard to not project somewhat of a turnaround for Roush-Fenway, they are just too talented of a team to be down too long, and look at RCR, they started to work things out before the end of the season. RFR will likely start to come alive in 2010, its just the question of, "When does that happen?" Even if RFR comes back though, you can't expect Carl Edwards to immediately have a 9 win season like in 2008 though. (3 - 12 - 21)
5.) Kurt Busch Kurt Busch had very similar stats compared to his winning year, except he had 1 win less and about 50 less points in 2009. During 2010, there are two questions about Kurt, 1.) "How will Kesolowski affect him as a team member?" and 2.) "How will Kurt do without Pat Tryson." These two questions make it really hard to put a pinpoint on how good Kurt will do, yet after this year, there just has to be some optimism for Kurt Busch to finish good this year as long as Penske doesn't focus too much on Kesolowski. (2 - 12- 22)
6.) Denny Hamlin How many times will this guy get bad luck in the chase, who knows!? All that can be said is that this guy is probably going to have bad luck in the chase somewhere, taking him out of the championship. This guy is really good in the car, its just that he has some huge hiccup somewhere in his chase, and throughout the whole year for that matter. Even at his best tracks, short tracks, he always seems to have some sort of problem with 20 or so laps to go. If this guy can snap his bad luck, he might stand a chance, but its all but a lock at least that he will make the chase. (4 - 13 - 19)
7.) Mark Martin So this old timer proved he can still race. The problem with Mark Martin, is how much longer can he make the magic last, and can he really keep it going into next year. Mark Martin fans are likely already putting him in for his first championship in 2010, yet its hard to say that. He had his best chance in 2009, and didn't make it. Although he may do better than 7th, there are so many teams that have the chance to redeem themselves, and its hard to project Mark Martin for another year like he just had. (2 - 12 - 20)
8.) Jeff Burton This guy, during the last 4 races of the chase, had all top 10s, the last two both being runner-up positions. Mr. Consistency might be coming back into business, so do not underestimate this guy by any means. He still might not put up a lot of wins, but expect his top 5s and especially 10s to go up next season. (1 - 8 - 18)
9.) Matt Kenseth This guy started hot, getting his two races as wins, but its hard to project that he will start that hot again. Kenseth, however, never missed a chase before next year, and if RFR does get back on hits feet, its hard to say that Kenseth won't make the chase at least. (2 - 8 - 17)
10.) Juan Pablo Montoya This guy proved that he does deserve to be in NASCAR, and with such a mediocre team! Things right now look pretty good for the guy, and he should make the chase yet again, but like 2009, he likely will be out of the running early in 2010. (1 - 6 - 17)
11.) Kyle Busch He will win races, there is no doubt about that, but how many will he win? And will it be enough to overcome his inconsistency? Or could he possibly overcome his inconsistency? Kyle Busch is hard to spot, yet he will get his wins, and he will likely try hard to make it in the chase this year, just how good will he do once he gets there is the question? (3 - 10 - 15)
12.) Ryan Newman In his first year with NHR, he made the chase, yet he wasn't extremely hot once he got there, and he can't seem to win. Still, Newman has a decent chance of making the chase again now that the team has a year of experience, its just, will there be more competition this year to stand in his way? (0 - 4 - 14)
13.) Kevin Harvick After a year where he got 19th, its hard to project that he will make the chase. But hey! Kurt Busch did it, so why not Harvick? After a year like that though, Harvick's chances don't seem too great, and Jeff Burton was the only guy who truly started to shine from RCR at the end of the season, still, he should make his mark, just will it be enough to make the chase? (1 - 5 - 12)
14.) Greg Biffle Even with RFR struggling, eh still got a 7th place, and apart from losing two wins, he really didn't do that much worse this season. Greg Biffle has been known to miss chases though, both in 2006 and 2007, and if RCR and the other drivers of RFR get back on their feet, it begs the question, "Will Biffle be able to make the chase in 2010?" He also is known for getting 5 or even 6 DNFs in one season, so watch out for that. (1 - 7 - 14)
15.) Kasey Kahne The main reason why Kasey Kahne made the chase, he avoided DNFs this season. From 2004-2007, he has had 6 or more DNFs in all of them, even a huge 9 in 2005! Although during the past two years he has pulled down his DNF totals, even with the 4 he had last year he didn't make the chase, and with Kahne, its hard to project another season where he has 2 or less DNFs. (0 - 6 - 13)
16.) Clint Bowyer What an awful year he had... and unless he has a major turnaround, he likely won't make the chase. This guys killed others with his consistency, and he didn't have it in 2009. Even with a turnaround of RCR, Clint Bowyer doesn't seem great in this setup, and if they keep on doing the switching of part/crew they have done over the past year, they will likely send most of the goods to Harvick's and Burton's way. (0 - 5 - 15)
17.) Joey Logano Throughout this whole year, he never really showed any true domination, so its hard to say he will become chase potential this year, but he is hard to predict, for he is a rookie who was amazing in the Nationwide series in 2008. They did rush this guy up to Sprint too soon though, and he might need another year before he is in full gear. He will likely improve a bit off last season though. (1 - 5 - 12)
18.) Dale Earnhardt Jr. The toughest guy to project for me, he was 3rd before entering the chase in 2008, and in 2009, he didn't even make the top 20. While he should make the top 20 this year, HMS seems to care too much about the duo of Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson, and Jr. might just not fit in that greatly here. He could make the chase, but I would need to see the first few races before believing that he can. (0 - 4 - 11)
19.) David Reutimann He was so close to making the chase, once he got to the chase, he got 2 top 10s only though, and although he did get a lot of top 20s, he fell down to 16th in the standings. Michael Waltrip is supposively retiring, and he may put all his focus on Reutimann, so he could do better, but if RCR kicks up its gears, then Reutimann will likely fit right in around this area in the standings. (0 - 3 - 9)
19.) Brian Vickers He made the chase!... then what...if you guessed not a single top 10 nor lap led in the chase, then you are correct! That chase was just pitiful compared to what he was doing, his consistency just left, and I don't see it coming back again for the start of this season. (0 - 3 - 6)
Other people of note:
David Ragan- After a 27th, Ragan's status that he gained from last year came down to the ground, and it left people wondering if last year was a one time thing. While its hard to project if he will make it into the top 20 if RFR comes back, things don't look too good right now for Ragan.
Martin Truex Jr.- He made the chase in 2007, but that's it, fact is that he can't get top 5s, apart from 2007, the most he has is three, and 2009 wasn't very kind to him. He won't be much of a factor this year.
Brad Kesolowski- He, like Logano, seems to be getting rushed into Sprint Cup racing, and although he did show he can hang with the big boys from time to time in 2009, he never ended on a high note, except for at Talladega. Assuming he doesn't pull on another Talladega win, which rarely comes twice, he might not be a huge factor this year, but could be a top 20 competitor, its hard to project these rookies.
A.J. Allmendinger- He seemed like he had some good moments, yet in the whole scheme of things he didn't do much in 2009. This guy has proven that he is an underdog at times, but you can't project him for that good coming off of a 1 top 5 season.
Marcos Ambrose- He had his good times as well, but they came at road courses and superspeedways for the most part. He may get in the top 20, but he doesn't seem like he will do much better from last season unless more road courses are added to the schedule.
Posted on: November 23, 2009 3:24 pm
Alright, first, before I announce the winner, let's go back throughout the whole competition and see how everyone stacked...
DNF- Justgreat and Bearthumb (were replaced by Superjags and Spikesgator)
21.) ynorocks (first man eliminated)
18.) Plaid (first participator eliminated; Tobasco started streak of staying alive by a nose)
17.) Chicagolaw (where has he gone anyway)
16.) Spikesgator (Showed how a dominating person can go down fast in this game.)
15.) Bondkbond (Where has that fly gone?)
14.) Fsu1dogs (the dominator before elimination)
13.) Uscfannv (first to stay in top 5 after elimination in average)
12.) M56Nascar56 (The guy that showed that taking the 34 point penalty isn't that bad occasionally.)
11.) Mikeyfan (The guy who got eliminated for picking a driver who finished in 2nd place.)
(Tobasco Kat snaps bad streak and turns it to winning streak week 23.)
(The first tie occured between Tenacfan and Floridawhite in week 24.)
(In week 25 Floridawhite activated the only save.)
(RFG proclaimed that no tie-breaker would take place in the chase after week 26.)
10.) Superjags (first eliminated by chase)
9.) Tigersman (got eliminated by 3 points, sent Edwardsfan to final)
8.) Tobasco Kat (lost his streak in a big way)
7.) Section (last man to not make the final)
And now we get to the final standings...
In 6th place, with 621 points, was Tenacfan!!! The underdog of the whole competition didn't end up stacking too well in the end, but just that he defied the odds to make it all the way here was amazing.
In 5th place, with 623 points, just beating out Tenacfan by 2 points, was Berlyn! The Only girl in this competition, with the most session wins, looked like she was in good position, but just one race killed her from winning.
In 4th place, with 666 points, is Floridawhite. Mr. Consistency stayed consistent, but it wasn't a winning consistent for this last segment. He put up one heck of a fight though, just gliding into the final... and he had a save to use.
In 3rd place, with 684 points, is Edwardsfan. This guy has been up and down this season due to the struggling of his driver, and it was that driver that eliminated him from possibly winning the whole thing.
In 2nd place, with 755 points, is Bradman! Bradman kept this whole game interesting, choosing RF drivers at all the right times, and seeming to know exactly who to pick to stay in the upper pack, he also kept the final session a race to the wire.
And in 1st place, with a whopping 783 points, is your truly Roushfenwayguy! I won only once before this, yet I kept my head straight, and I drove to victory in the only part that mattered, the last part.
All you guys did a great job, and I'll likely be running this game next year. Hope to see a lot of new people, as well as everyone else that participated here, and with an eliminator, you just can't expect there to be the same winner twice.
Posted on: November 16, 2009 3:56 pm
Edited on: November 21, 2009 5:44 pm
Alright, the last race, the championship decider, Jimmie Johnson may have the Sprint Cup in his grasps but the Eliminator Cup is still up for grabs. Edwardsfan long conservation of Jimmie Johnson paid off, as he got the winner. There is just one more race, and that is Homestead, so lets see where the championship standings stand.
1.) Roushfenway- 633 (Got +10 off the bonus) (leader)
2.) Bradman- 631 (Got +20 off the bonus) (-2)
3.) Floridawhite- 564 (Got +5 off the bonus) (-69)
4.) Edwardsfan- 563 (Got +15 off the bonus) (-70)
5.) Tenacfan- 474 (Got +5 off the bonus) (-159)
6.) Berlyn- 448 (Got 0 off the bonus) (-185)
Alright, this is as close as it gets people! Unless Both my and Bradman's driver finish below 10th, right next to eachother with mine on top, and Bradman's driver leads a lap (resulting in a tie) (not including leading most laps) it will come down to whichever one of us has the driver who is ahead of the other.
Of course Floridawhite and Edwardsfan will be duking it out hard if both me and Bradman have a hiccup, but it is incredibly close, this is must more interesting than the chase standings at least, lol.
Tenacfan is realistically out, for he would need me to finish last, Bradman next to last, and he would need the winner and that winner would need to lead the most laps (and this way Tenacfan would only win by 1 point). Berlyn is mathematically out, however, the fight for 5th place is still hot, and if florida/edwardsfan hiccup, then a podium finish is possible for you guys, especially if you get the winner.
Also congratulations to Bradman, who got the bonus pick right on the nose, which allowed for this 2 point difference.
10 handicap: 16th through 23rd
Posted on: November 9, 2009 4:07 pm
Edited on: November 16, 2009 3:11 pm
Alright, just two more weeks to go... and nobody picked Kurt Busch, he never got a win here before, so it wasn't too predictable, on the podium is me, with a 3rd place, Bradman with an 8th, and Floridawhite with a 13th who luckily caught his Jimmie Johnson error before it was too late... he would have gotten 15 points for the week, which would have really sucked. As for the other three that aren't on the podium though, its not too much better for you, as this will dig a deep hole for you three that will need to be dug out of quick. Here are the standings as we head to Pheonix next week:
1.) Roushfenway- 468 (+180 for this week, got +15 off the bonus) (leader)
2.) Bradman- 446 (+152 for the week, got +10 off the bonus) (-22)
3.) Floridawhite- 399 (+139 for this week, got +10 off the bonus) (-69)
4.) Edwardsfan- 353 (+51 for this week, got +5 off the bonus) (-115)
5.) Berlyn- 333 (+59 for this week, got +10 off the bonus) (-135)
6.) Tenacfan- 309 (+64 for this week, got +15 off the bonus) (-159)
Well, unless me, Bradman and Florida all have a bad week, it might have just become a three race finish, of course like this week, anything can happen, so don't give up hope. The bonus went alright, I mean understood if anyone guessed Jimmie Johnson... well that wouldn't have happened. Anyway, stuff like this happens, and you would think that Talladega would have had a bigger impact, but infact this race did. Now we move to Pheonix... and one more thing, Edwardsfan is the only person left with a Jimmie Johnson pick!
10 handicap: 16th through 23rd
Posted on: November 2, 2009 2:19 pm
Edited on: November 9, 2009 3:29 pm
Alright, Talladega is finally done... so lets see... the best finisher of the non-backup drivers was... Jeff Gordon with 20th, followed by Mark Martin with 28th... all I can say is that people are saying, "Thank god I have a back-up..." Since the worse back-up racer finished... ummm.... 25th if you don't count Ambrose... better than the others I guess... anyway, this one still did seperate some people, yet not an awful lot since nobody got a person who finished better than 10th... Anyway, next week we will run at Texas, so get ready for that. Here are the standings...
1.) Edwardsfan- 302 (counted Jr.'s score.) (leader)
2.) Bradman- 294 (counted Ragan's score.) (-8)
3.) Roushfenway- 288 (counted Mears' score.) (-14)
4.) Berlyn- 274 (counted Harvick's score.) (-28)
5.) Floridawhite- 260 (counted Kurt's score.) (-42)
6.) Tenacfan- 245 (counted LaBonte's score.) (-57)
Well, things are still tight, that is fore sure. And the back-up rule turned out to be a huge success, saving all but Floridawhite from having a worse score... or maybe not as much so since if we didn't have the back-up, all of us would have been closer together in scores this week... wierd... well it still helped out Tenacfan a lot, which he needed to get back into this thing, and even with the back-up, only one person broke 300 over this two wee period, and that includes a bonus from last week as well. Scores should start to increase though as this session moves on as more bonuses come... I hope at least.
10 handicap: 16th through 23rd
Posted on: October 26, 2009 3:54 pm
Edited on: October 31, 2009 8:59 am
Alright, first, to explain about the bonus, I will put your original score first, then the bonus (pos. or neg.) then your final score in bold. I'll quote Berlyn by saying, "Wow. If i'm looking at it correctly at the people who got the bonus on the nose. Me, RFG, and Edwardsfan." Well actually there are only two, me and Edwardsfan. Berlyn you said that you wanted Tony Stewart for 10th, and he ended up in 9th ahead of Tony Stewart, so you were as close to nose as possible without actually being there.
So everyone gained off that bonus... except for the person that needed it most. But Tenacfan is the underdog, so I'm sure he'll pull something out of the hat to get back into this. Roushfenway and Edwardsfan were the major beneficiaries of this, because although berlyn was just 1 away from her's, it made Edwardsfan get 11 points closer to her, and made the gap between them pretty much nothing. It also broke some of the ties with Johnson. Anyway, let's get to the handicaps, then the bonus.
10 handicap: 16th through 23rd (the bonus line)
Posted on: October 19, 2009 4:37 pm
Edited on: October 24, 2009 8:27 am
Alright, well that ticked me, off, I was almost done with this, which I worked on for a good 20 min. or more, then Windows, without telling me, restarts the computer for updateds... and now I need to start over... lets get this done quick, lol, we are moving to Martinsville next week for the final segment, and those eliminated should know who they are, anyway, here are the standings:
Ex. 1: Roushfenway chooses Jeff Gordon to finish 2nd... Jeff Gordon finishes 5th, so: 5-2 = 3, plus 10 points added to your score since he was within 5 pos. of your guess, since the 3 is subratracted from your score, 10-3 = 7 points added to your score!
Ex. 2: Edwardsfan chooses Carl Edwards to finish 2nd... Carl Edwards finsihes 32nd, so : 32-2 = 30, no bonus, so 30 points would be subtracted from you score.
You can really maximize on this rule, and it could save you from a bad pick this week, it could also ruin a good pick, but make sure you answer it, its better than randomization. Also you can choose whichever driver you choose for the bonus as an actual pick, so if you want to pick Jeff Gordon for the bonus, and pick him for next race, that's fine, just make sure your pick isn't who you chose as your winner.