Posted on: March 25, 2009 3:01 pm
 

Re: All-Time Greatest Catchers - Josh Gibson

This is an addendum to my most recent blog entry..."Vote for the Greatest Catcher of All Time"

Josh Gibson should certainly be considered in the company of Yogi Berra, Johnny Bench, Carlton Fisk and Ivan Rodriguez when we're talking about all time great catchers. I said I wasn't going to be doing any voting here, but I feel Josh Gibson should be included in any 25 man roster of any greatest ever team. Josh played 16 seasons in the Negro Leagues. The Negro League schedule was significantly shorter than the MLB schedule as seasons were shorter than 60 games. Due to finances many Negro League players including Gibson played in a ton of barnstorming games against teams of varying quality, and shabby record keeping. However I feel that Gibson's Negro League statistics would be similar to what he could have done in the major leagues as the level of competion would be comparable. Gibson logged 1855 career Negro League at-bats with 115 home runs and a lifetime average of .359. The most games Josh ever played in a single season in the Negro Leagues was 55 so his career numbers should probably nearly be tripled to reflect what he may have achieved in 16 seasons in the majors which would put him around 330 lifetime home runs which would probably be a conservative estimate at best. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find any fielding records on Gibson and write-ups concerning Gibson only speak of his hitting prowess. Since I feel VERY STRONGLY that Gibson would have had a career at least on par to the likes of Bench and Berra, I'm going to advance him along with the winner of this vote as the reserve catcher. I hope you all don't mind me making this command decision, but Josh Gibson is regarded by many as the greatest hitter in the history of the Negro Leagues and had he been afforded the opportunity to play in the majors its likely he would be mentioned in the same breath with names like Ruth, Cobb and Hornsby.


 

 

Category: MLB
Tags: Josh Gibson
 
Posted on: March 21, 2009 5:53 pm
 

Vote for the Greatest Catcher of All-Time

 Ok, I'm going in a different direction from rock and roll music.   What I want to do is to assemble the best major league team ever.  I'm going to start with the men who wear the tools of ignorance...the beloved catchers.   I'll post the career stats of what I feel are the twelve best catchers of all time.   I want to make a couple notes concerning the defensive numbers on catchers.  Since catching is a very important position to a team defensively, I want to alert you all on some defensive ratings.  Prior to 1956 stats weren't kept on stolen bases against and caught stealing as far as catchers were concerned.   So catchers on this list who played prior to 1956 will have no stats for this and players such as Yogi Berra and Roy Campanella will have incomplete numbers as their stolen base/caught stealing stats will only reflect 1956 and afterward.  One other thing I want to note is on fielding percentage.   Don't take that number too seriously.  Every couple of decades, official scorers tend to give fewer and fewer errors to players.   For instance, Mike Piazza has a career fielding percentage of .989, but the average fielding percentage over his era was .990, making him slightly less than an average fielder.   Mickey Cochrane's lifetime fielding percentage was .985, but that is compared to the norm of .980 during the course of his career.   I also will not be making any mention of gold glove players.   Players before the 60s didn't get gold gloves, and I am one of many who believe that the gold glove award in many cases is a popularity award rather than a true study of defensive achievement.    Without further ado, here is the list of my top 12 catchers

          NAME               Games   Runs    Hits     HR    RBI     BB     SB     AVE    OBP    Slug      Fldg Pct   SB Against    Caught Stealing

  • J. Bench             2158     1091   2048   389    1376   891    68    .267   .342    .476      .990          610            469
  • C. Fisk               2499     1276   2356   376    1330   849   128   .269   .341    .457      .988         1302           664
  • T. Munson          1423      696    1558   113     701   438     48   .292    .346    .410     .982           533           427
  • I. Rodriguez        2267     1253   2605   295    1217  469    124   .301   .339    .475     .991           691           604
  • M. Piazza            1912     1048   2127   427    1335   759     17   .308   .377    .545     .989          1400           423
  • Y. Berra              2120     1175   2150   358    1430   704     30    .285   .348   .482      .989           154           141
  • R. Campanella    1215       627   1161   242     856    533     25    .276   .360   .500      .988            45              35
  • G. Carter            2296      1025   2092   324    1225   848     39    .262   .335   .439      .991         1498           810
  • M. Cochrane       1484      1041   1652   119      832   857     64    .320   .419   .478      .985
  • B. Dickey            1789       930   1969    202    1209   678    36    .313   .382    .486      .988
  • E. Lombardi        1853       601   1792    190      990   430      8    .306   .358    .460      .979
  • G. Hartnett         1990       867    1912   236     1179   703    28    .297   .370    .489      .984

I'll leave this blog up for a week for voting.   Next weekend I'll have a vote for the greatest 1st basemen of all time, so I'll take any suggestions you folks may wish to render to put on that list.   For all of you who voted on my rock blog, thank you very much and I hope you'll also enjoy this as well.  Since I'm providing the career numbers for the players, I'm trying to help those of you who don't consider yourselves very baseball savvy to render an educated vote.  Happy voting all.   I'll refrain from voting on my blogs unless it is to break a tie. 

 

Posted on: March 17, 2009 9:31 am
 

Your Favorite Rock and Roll Song All Time..WINNER

 Seven months ago today I started the search for the greatest rock song of all time by the popular choice of those who would respond to my blog.  The verdict is in.    By a margin of 27 votes to 15, the winner was....

Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin 

Since the vote is over, I'd like to know what song you all actually like best as a personal favorite.   Although Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" was the winner over the course of this contest, I was just curious what YOUR PERSONAL FAVORITE SONG IS.

So please post that.   For me, its pretty much a toss-up between 2 Styx songs.   I like Come Sail Away and the Best of Times.

A number of you inquired as to what I'd do next with my blog after this rock and roll song vote-in.  I've decided to move in the direction of baseball.   I want to put together the consensus greatest baseball team of all time.   So, I ask all of you, after listing what your favorite rock song of all time is, also give me who you think is the best catcher all time.   I want to take in the names of the greatest catchers all time.  Based on the response I get, on my next blog entry, we'll vote for the greatest catcher, either in an elite 8 format or maybe we'll just go straight for the #1 guy immediately, depending on what you all think might be more fun.   While we vote on catchers on my next entry, I'll take nominees for first basemen.   I like the idea of having a blog with alot of poster particaption and help.   It seemed to work great on the rock blog, so I'll try it in assembling the greatest baseball team all time.

Thanks alot for the particpation from all of you in my rock and roll blog.  You're all encouraged to continue to follow with the baseball theme with me.

By the way, shoot me who you like for the final four and the ultimate winner in the NCAA tournament.     My final four are Louisville, Memphis, Pittsburgh and Oklahoma.   My finals are Memphis and Oklahoma.  My winner is Memphis.   Sorry Sooner fans, I guess that makes you #2 twice in one year.

Category: General
Posted on: March 8, 2009 9:47 pm
 

Vote For Your Favorite Rock Song - THE FINALS!!!!

This journey that started on August 17th when I started this blog has now whittled its way from about 2000 songs down to 2 songs.   During that time I've made alot of e-contacts and e-friends and I wish to thank everyone who has helped out in this near 7 month endeavor.   I want to personally thank the following posters who were there and voted in my very first entry on August 17 who still actively vote here and seldom if ever missed a vote.   First, thank you Muffin Man, you broke the cherry of this blog way back in the As.  KidDude123 was the second to cast a vote and I don't believe he's missed a vote since.  Posters who were also came along on my maiden voyage and have voted many if not every time were MandoTime, jonnyteach, vegab, D2Moo, JohnOdin and Markstaff.   I want to also thank you frequent posters who came along during the journey afterwards and contributed consistenly such as goodfellas, sfrye4585, IGetNoRespect (you got mine brudda), Rhino3434, Valpo-Domer, Bluesman24, epozz, DomN8_onD, Canacorn, misterjbq, freebirdmaw, Section_725, ClevelandRocks, DeadheadTrea, No_Name (you helped improve this blog), colts13, KBrown, jmw10, ponie02, UncleFester, thatcobra, t-rock-atx, BuccinGator, GolfCoward, nine5seven, darkness132, Steeler3, edwardsfan99, mfarley51, silver, scullcracker, Conquistador1, journey819, hockeydad55, MajorEReckshun, BadgerinMaine, ToddinNC, Happy4Jets and iamyo.  There are more of you and I apologize for leaving you off.  The so called "improvements" that CBS has instituted in the past 2 months have driven some of my friends away.  I'm glad many of you have decided to stay. 

Oh yeah, I guess you wanna know what two songs its down to.  The final 4 had 4 hard hitting songs, but the final tallies weren't all that close.

Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin defeated Freebird - Lynyrd Skynyrd 25-13

Won't Get Fooled Again - The Who defeated Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen 22-17.

So the finals features the following match-up of 1 seed songs...

Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin  vs.  Won't Get Fooled Again - The Who

Voting will go until 12 midnight Sunday March 15th.   On Monday Morning March 16, I'll post the winner in a new blog entry.   Enjoy the vote ladies and gentlemen and again, this has been fun.       

Category: General
Posted on: February 28, 2009 6:50 pm
 

Vote for Your Favorite Rock Songs - FINAL FOUR!!!


We're down to the nitty gritty now my friends.  After 20 or more different entries and hundreds of songs we have now come down to the 4 best rock songs as voted by you.  The Elite 8 had four match-ups.  The results were 3 blow outs and one tie.  Yes, a tie, so I have to cast a deciding vote which I really didn't want to do, but I've made my decision on it.   Here are the results from the Elite 8:

NORTH DIVISION:  Stairway to Heaven   walked all over Hotel California by a 28-5 margin.   Freebird had very little problem in pushing aside American Pie with a 21-11 victory.

SOUTH DIVISION:  Won't Get Fooled Again also beat their opponent, Money by a 21-11 vote.  The final contest between Bohemian Rhapsody and Born to Be Wild ended in a 16-16 tie.  When we went to the playoff portion to the blog, I discontinued voting but told you I'd only vote to break a tie, so I have to do that now and its not an easy call as they are both top 10-15 songs in my personal feelings as well.  In a very tough call, I'm going with Bohemian Rhapsody.

So this now puts us at 4 songs.   Here's the ballot box, have at it ladies and gentlemen...

NORTH DIVISION:

Stairway to Heaven - Led Zepplin (1) vs. Freebird - Lynyrd Skynyrd (3) 

SOUTH DIVISION:

Won't Get Fooled Again - Who (1) vs. Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen (2)    

Category: General
Posted on: February 21, 2009 9:07 pm
 

Vote For Your Favorite Rock Song - The Elite 8

Thank you all very much for voting in the Sweet 16.  You were all asked to make some tough decisions, but in many of the cases the winners were decisive but some were also close and one match-up was decided by one vote.  Here are the final results of the Sweet 16.

NORTH DIVISION:

Stairway to Heaven (1) ran away and hid from Don't Fear the Reaper (8) by a 32-5 margin

American Pie (2) beat Sweet Home Alabama (7) in a squeaker 20-17.

Freebird (3) brushed aside Purple Haze (6) in a 23-14 decision.

Hotel Californina (4) held off the upset minded Carry On Wayward son to win by a 20-17 margin.

SOUTH DIVISION:

Won't Get Fooled Again (1) ran roughshod over Brown Eyed Girl (8) by a 29-8 vote.

Bohemian Rhapsody (2) doubled up Satisfaction (7) in a 24-12 decision.

Born to Be Wild (3) took the magic away from Black Magic Woman (6) in a 27-10 thumping.

Pink Floyd's Money (5) scored the only upset of the Sweet 16 over Crazy Train in a 19-18 thriller.


So now we are down to the Elite 8.  It only gets tougher.  For some of you, maybe it doesn't as many favorite songs are falling out of the running.   I hope you have just as much enjoyment in this round as the other ones.   Voting will be open for one week.  Next Saturday at noon will be the cut-off for the Elite 8 voting and shortly thereafter, I'll post the winners and announce the Final Four.  Without further ado, here is the ballot for the Elite 8.....

NORTH DIVISION

Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin (1)  vs  Hotel California - Eagles (4)

American Pie - Don McLean (2)  vs  Freebird - Lynyrd Skynyrd (3)

SOUTH DIVISION

Won't Get Fooled Again - The Who (1)  vs  Money - Pink Floyd (5)

Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen (2)  vs  Born to Be Wild - Steppenwolf (3)   

 

 

Category: General
Posted on: February 14, 2009 8:25 pm
 

Vote For Your Favorite Rock Songs, The Sweet 16

Hello once again and welcome to my search for the greatest rock and roll song of all time.  I just finished tabulating the votes from round 2 and I've narrowed it down to the top 16.  Both parts of round 2 were extremely close from top to bottom.  Every song in round 2 received at least 8 votes.  In the second round of songs O-Z, the lowest amount of votes any song got was 8, yet 12 votes got 2 songs into the Sweet 16.  There was a five way tie for the last two spots in that round and I had to pick two of them out and it was difficult.  For the songs that didn't qualify, here is the list in the order of most votes to the fewest.  There were many ties.

  • The number 17 song was Nights In White Satin by the Moody Blues.  Their 14 votes fell one short of the number 8 seed, Don't Fear the Reaper
  • Sweet Child of Mine - Guns and Roses
  • Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana
  • Free Fallin' - Tom Petty (this is one I had to cut, which hurt, but I kept an eye out on other songs that tied for those last two songs and a number of posters mentioned those songs as being in their final cut.)
  • Rock You Like a Hurricaine - Scorpions
  • Sunday, Bloody Sunday - U2
  • Enter Sandman - Metallica
  • Roundabout - Yes
  • American Woman - Guess Who
  • You Can't Always Get What You Want - Rolling Stones 
  • I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For - U2
  • Sitting On the Dock of the Bay - Otis Redding
  • Hey Jude - The Beatles (wow, the Beatles are out of it)
  • Imagine - John Lennon
  • Born to Run - Bruce Springsteen
  • The Joker - Steve Miller Band
  • La Grange - ZZ Top
  • Livin' on a Prayer - Bon Jovi
  • Aqualung - Jethro Tull

  Without further ado, I'll post the Sweet 16.  The top 8 songs from the A-N bands will be known as the North Division and the top 8 songs  from the O-Z bands will be the South Division.   Here's the songs vote for 1 out of each match-up or 8 songs total, please.

NORTH DIVISION

Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin (1)  vs.  Don't Fear the Reaper - Blue Oyster Cult (8)

American Pie - Don McLean (2)  vs  Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd (7)

Freebird - Lynyrd Skynyrd (3)  vs  Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix (6)

Hotel California - Eagles (4)  vs  Carry On Wayward Son - Kansas (5)

SOUTH DIVISION

Won't Get Fooled Again - The Who (1)  vs.  Brown Eyed Girl - Van Morrison (8)

Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen (2)  vs.  Satisfaction - Rolling Stones (7)

Born to Be Wild - Steppenwolf (3)  vs.  Black Magic Woman - Santana (6)

Crazy Train - Ozzy Osbourne (4)  vs.  Money - Pink Floyd (5)


The next round after this one will be the Elite 8 where the winners of the 1/8 match-ups will face the winners of the 4/5 match-ups and the 2/7 winners will face the 3/6 winners.    I'll have this up for vote for one week.  The deadline will be 12 noon CST on February 21.  Look for the Elite 8 a few hours after the cut-off.    Thanks to all of you who participate and vote!   All will be fived and faved.

Category: General
Posted on: February 7, 2009 5:15 pm
 

Vote For Your Favorite Rock Songs, Round 2, O-Z

First off, I want to again thank all of you who participate and vote on my blog.  Your support has helped this be more successful than I imagined that it would have.  This is the second of two parts of round 2 in Lazer's Great Universal Search for the Greatest Rock and Roll Song of All Time.  I had been calling it Great American Search, but since we've voted for songs from artists from Canada, Mexico, Australia and Europe, I figured I'd better expand that title a bit.   Before we get into the rules of voting, let me announce the 7 songs that advanced from Round 1, T-Z.   Those winners will be on this list of songs as well.   This particular vote was by far the evenest and closest of any vote we've had since I started this blog back in September.  Every song received at least 2 votes and 28 our of 37 songs received at least 5 votes.  Fortunately there wasn't a tie for 7th so I didn't have to make a tough call.  Here are the 7 winners...

  • Won't Get Fooled Again - The Who (16)
  • Brown Eyed Girl - Van Morrison (15)
  • Sunday, Bloody Sunday - U2 (15)
  • Free Fallin' - Tom Petty (12)
  • Roundabout - Yes (12)
  • I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For - U2 (11)
  • La Grange - ZZ Top (11)  

For this entry there will be 18 songs to choose from and you may vote for as many as 8 of the list of 18.  The top 8 vote getters will be seeded 1-8 and my next entry will be the Sweet 16 of 2 divisions which will be seeded 1-8.  The rules are few.  You may only vote for songs on this list as they have already survived two rounds of votes and you may not vote for more than 8 songs.   And of course, the most important rule of all.  Enjoy yourself.    Here is the list...

  • Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
  • Crazy Train - Ozzy Osbourne
  • Sitting On the Dock of the Bay - Otis Redding
  • You Can't Always Get What You Want - Rolling Stones
  • Money - Pink Floyd
  • Satisfaction - Rolling Stones
  • Born to Be Wild - Steppenwolf
  • Rock You Like a Hurricane - Scorpions
  • Black Magic Woman - Santana
  • The Joker - Steve Miller Band
  • Won't Get Fooled Again - The Who
  • Brown Eyed Girl - Van Morrison
  • Free Fallin' - Tom Petty
  • Sunday, Bloody Sunday - U2
  • Roundabout - Yes
  • I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For - U2
  • La Grange - ZZ Top

I also want to add, that if you have yet to vote on Round 2, A-N, voting will be open until 14 February.  Your votes will be appreciated there as well.   The volume has been down on that vote, but I blame that due to me posting it the day before the Super Bowl. 

Category: General
 
 
 
 
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