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October 7, 2012 1:20 am

Might have missed a couple, but I counted 13 ex Browns on those fa lists. That just about says it all doesn't it.
dawggin
SinceAug 12, 2009
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 9:48 am

Here is a look back to the Browns-Giants game on Dec. 12, 1964.

When the Browns rolled past the New York Giants, 52-20, on Dec. 12, 1964 in a nationally televised Saturday afternoon game at Yankee Stadium, they did more than simply clinch their first Eastern Conference title since 1957.

They also ended years of frustration, chasing away a lot of demons with the victory in the next-to-last game of the year.

In each of the previous six seasons, whenever the Browns were on the cusp of doing something special, there stood the rival Giants in their way.

And every time, New York had successfully blocked their path.

In 1958, when the Browns needed only a victory over the Giants at New York in the regular-season to capture their second straight Eastern Conference title, the Giants won, 13-10, to force a first-place tie and then beat Cleveland in a special playoff a week later to advance to the NFL Championship Game.

In 1959, when the Browns needed a victory at Yankee Stadium in the next-to-last game to remain in contention with New York, the Giants prevailed, 48-7, dealing Paul Brown the worst regular-season loss of the NFL portion of his Browns coaching career.

In 1960, when the Browns finished 8-3-1 and 1½ games behind champion Philadelphia in the East, they could look back to a 17-13 mid-season loss to the Giants at Cleveland, when they failed to hold a three-point second-half lead, as one of the reasons they failed to close that small gap on the Eagles.

In 1961, when the Browns needed a late-season win over the Giants at Cleveland to remain in the conference race, New York cruised to a 37-21 victory, sealing the Browns’ fate and doing much to propel itself to the Eastern crown.

In 1962, when the Browns were out of the race in what turned out to be Brown’s last year as coach and merely wanted to assure themselves of a winning record when they met the Giants at Yankee Stadium in the next-to-last game, New York won, 17-13, dropping the Browns to 6-6-1 and forcing them to win the next week at San Francisco – which they did -- to finish above .500.

In 1963, when the Browns raced out to a 6-0 start under new coach Blanton Collier, including a 35-23 win at New York, it was the Giants who burst the bubble, roaring to a 33-6 triumph at Yankee Stadium en route to finishing 11-3 and in first place in the conference, one game ahead of Cleveland (10-4).

Midway through the 1964 season, the Browns had forced the Giants into six turnovers and routed them, 42-20, at Cleveland, scoring 28 fourth-quarter points to break open the game. The Browns beat the Giants in every way, scoring one touchdown defensively and two on special teams.

As impressive as all that was – it was the Browns’ most lopsided win over the Giants since a 62-14 shellacking in 1953 – it still wasn’t enough.

The Browns needed to do even better than that – and to do it at Yankee Stadium, where, no matter the situation or how good or bad the Giants were, they always managed to dig in their heels and become just that much tougher to beat. Sure, the Giants were having all kinds of problems, as they were en route to a last-place finish of 2-10-2, but if they could derail the Browns – or at least postpone their conference title celebration – then their season wouldn’t be a total loss.

For if the Browns were defeated, then they would have to go to St. Louis the next week and face a Cardinals team that had tied them 33-33 at Cleveland in Week 2. The Cards were en route to finishing 9-3-2 and just a half-game behind the Browns (10-3-1) in the East, so Collier’s club didn’t want to have to try to do that.

It was all right there for the Browns to grab, and they took care of business – in a big way.

After falling behind, 7-3, briefly at the start of the second quarter, they came back to lead 24-7 at halftime and then 45-7 after three quarters, recording their most lopsided victory ever over the Giants at New York, and their most one-sided triumph overall since 1960.

Quarterback Frank Ryan was the catalyst, setting a team record – that has since been tied by four other players – by throwing five touchdown passes, and running for another score on a 13-yarder. He was near-perfect with his passing, going 12-of-13 overall for 202 yards with no interceptions. In fact, if quarterback rating is the measuring stick, then Ryan really was officially perfect with a 158.33 mark. He would share the team record with Otto Graham and Brian Sipe in that regard, but a player has to have a minimum of 15 attempts to be considered.

This was no mirage, as Ryan was on his way to throwing 25 TD passes for the second straight season and leading the league in such for the first time. He topped the NFL two years later with a then team-record 29 TD passes.

And, of course, 15 days after he dissected the Giants, Ryan would do so to the mighty Baltimore Colts in the NFL Championship Game, turning in his most memorable performance by throwing for three TDs in helping lead a stunning 27-0 win.

Two of the scoring passes against the Giants went to running back Ernie Green (one yard and 25 yards), and one each to his backfield mate, Jim Brown (eight yards), and wide receivers Gary Collins (11) and Paul Warfield (eight). Warfield, the team’s first-round pick in the 1964 NFL Draft out of Warren (Ohio) Harding High School and Ohio State, had five receptions for 103 yards overall.

The Browns passed for six TDs in all, setting a team record (since tied), as back-up Jim Ninowski got into the act, throwing a 27-yarder to the tiniest player on the team, 5-foot-10, 165-pound Walter “The Flea” Roberts, in the fourth quarter to close the team’s scoring.

The Browns were so scintillating with the passing attack that virtually no attention was given to the fact that the great Jim Brown, seemingly always the focus of these historic battles with the defensive-minded Giants, had a fine day, rushing for 99 yards in 20 attempts and averaging nearly five yards per try.

It would be the same thing two weeks later when Brown rolled for 114 yards but was overshadowed by Ryan and Collins, who combined on all three TD passes against the Colts.

But Brown didn’t care either time. He was anxious to fill in the one gap on his Pro Football Hall of Fame resume by winning an NFL title, and beating the Giants at Yankee Stadium helped him to do that.
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 9:50 am

Bricker ..good to see you back on ..yeah 0-12 would do it for alot of us Frown..that aint happening here .if we dont win today we will get the Bengals next Sunday .


yes there were quite a few unemployed ex Browns on the the free agent list .
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 10:03 am

Heaven and Hell


While walking down the street one day a Corrupt Senator (that may be redundant) was tragically hit by a car and died.

His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

"Welcome to heaven," says St.. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you."

"No problem, just let me in," says the Senator.

"Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from the higher ups. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity."

"Really? I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the Senator.

"I'm sorry, but we have our rules."

And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.

The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course.

In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.

Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the Expense of the people.

They played a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and the finest champagne.

Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who is having a good time dancing and telling jokes.

They are all having such a good time that before the Senator realizes it, it is time to go.

Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises.

The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens in heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him, "Now it's time to visit heaven...

So, 24 hours passed with the Senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time And before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

"Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity."

The Senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell."

So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell...

Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls to the ground.

The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulders.

"I don't understand," stammers the Senator. "Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"

The devil smiles at him and says,

"Yesterday we were campaigning,

Today, you voted.."

Vote wisely on November 6, 2012
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 10:48 am

WOOF WOOF WOOF

Coffee kicking in here Tongue out
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 11:09 am

The Browns and New York Giants are virtual strangers to one another. Sunday's game at MetLife Stadium will mark just the ninth time they've played in the last 42 years, since they moved into separate conferences in 1970 as part of the NFL-AFL merger. But there once was a time when the teams played each other a lot – sometimes as many as three times a year. And whenever they did meet, so much was on the line. From 1950, when the Browns moved into the NFL from the All-America Football Conference after their overwhelming success in it put the latter league out of business, through 1965, their rivalry with the Giants was absolutely the hottest in pro football. In fact, it was one of the top rivalries in the history of the game. In every season but one in that 16-year span, either the Browns or Giants won the Eastern Conference title (it was called the American Conference from 1950-52) and advanced to the NFL Championship Game. Only in 1960, when the Philadelphia Eagles edged the runner-up Browns by 1½ games and the third-place Giants on their way to the league title, was that string broken. Here's a look at the three biggest seasons -- 1950, '58 and '64 – in the Browns-Giants rivalry during that stretch:

*1950 – "Money Bags" – The Browns came into the NFL in 1950 like a hurricane, destroying nearly everything and everybody in their path. Even the two-time defending NFL champion Eagles were easily tossed aside – twice. The only team they couldn't beat was the Giants. The Giants handed the Browns their first loss, 6-0, in Week 3 and then edged them again, 17-13, three weeks later at the Polo Grounds. As such, the two teams ended the regular season tied for first place in the American Conference with 10-2 records. That necessitated a playoff game – held at Cleveland Stadium on Dec. 17 – to determine the team that would advance to the NFL Championship Game. In one of the coldest games in league postseason history – the temperature was 10 degrees with a sub-zero wind-chill factor, and the field was frozen, forcing players on both teams to wear tennis shoes to get traction – the Browns prevailed by a baseball-like score of 8-3. Lou Groza's 28-yard field goal with 58 seconds left gave the Browns a 6-3 lead and pretty much sealed the deal, and then they made sure by recording a safety when middle guard Bill Willis sacked quarterback Charlie Conerly in the end zone. But that wasn't the biggest play Willis made all day. Instead, that came in the fourth quarter when the former Ohio State star chased down one of the fastest players in the league, Giants running back Charlie "Choo-Choo" Roberts, at the Cleveland 7 to save a touchdown. Instead of going ahead, the Giants had to settle for an 11-yard field goal by Randy Clay for a 3-3 tie. Asked afterward how in the world a 213-pound interior lineman was ever able to catch the fleet-footed Roberts, Willis smiled and said, "I didn't see him running away with the football. Instead, I saw him running away with a bag of money." He was referring to the playoff money the Browns players would lose out on if they were beaten by the Giants. Players back then weren't paid much, so getting a playoff cut was ultra-important. The take for Willis and the Browns got even better a week later when they edged the Los Angeles Rams 30-28 for the league title.

*1958 – "Not a Snowball's Chance" – The Browns and Giants also met three times, including in a playoff game, in 1958, and the situation was pretty much the same. Only this time, the Giants prevailed. Once again, the Browns lost twice to the Giants by close scores during the regular season, 21-17 at Cleveland midway through the year and then 13-10 at Yankee Stadium in the finale. That put the teams in a first-place tie again atop the conference at 9-3, forcing another playoff – this time at New York -- to decide the league title game qualifier. The Giants won that one 10-0, holding Jim Brown to a career-low eight yards in seven carries, and advanced to face the Baltimore Colts. The Colts beat them 23-17 in overtime in what became known as "The Greatest Game Ever Played," credited with spurring the growth of the league. But the contest with the Browns in the regular-season finale on Dec. 21 was pretty special, too. The Browns got started right away, with Brown racing 65 yards for a TD in the opening minutes. Groza then kicked a 22-yard field goal to provide a 10-3 halftime lead. The Giants' points came on a 46-yard field goal by Pat Summerall, who went on to become one of the greatest TV play-by-play announcers in NFL history. An eight-yard halfback-option pass for a TD from another well-known NFL TV announcer, Frank Gifford, to wide receiver Bob Schnelker, picked by the Browns in the 29th, or next-to-last, round of the 1950 NFL Draft out of Bowling Green, tied the score at 10-10 in the fourth quarter. The final part of the game was played in near-whiteout conditions caused by a heavy snowfall. As the clock wound down, the Giants' drive stalled and Summerall was sent out to try a 49-yard field goal to win the game. Offensive coach (coordinator) Vince Lombardi, in his next-to-last game with the Giants before moving on to become head coach of the Green Bay Packers the next season, was not shy about voicing his approval at head coach Jim Lee Howell's decision. Looking at the rapidly-deteriorating conditions – the snow and falling temperature as the afternoon waned and darkness began to set in on the shortest day of the year in terms of hours of daylight -- Lombardi barked at Summerall as he trotted onto the field, "You can't kick one that far!" Then Summerall did, the ball disappearing into the whiteness.

*1964 – "Take That – and That" – It is said in boxing that in order for the challenger to defeat the champion, he can't do so on points. He has to knock him out. And the Browns did that – in fact, two times – in 1964 en route to winning the NFL crown. The Giants had finished 11-3 in 1963, winning the East by a game over the 10-4 Browns, who were in their first year under head coach Blanton Collier. The Giants had also captured the Eastern title over the Browns four other times dating back to 1958. Year after year, the Browns had found themselves looking up at the Giants in the standings. Enough was enough. If the Browns wanted to get past the Giants and vault into the top spot in the conference, then they would have to take them out the hard way – decisively. The Browns routed the Giants 42-20 at Cleveland in mid-season and then defeated them even worse, 52-20, in a nationally-televised Saturday afternoon game at Yankee Stadium to clinch the East at 10-3-1. The Browns had swept the season series from the Giants four times previously, but never in such dominating fashion. It marked the Browns' second- and third-biggest margins of victory over the Giants in the history of the rivalry to that point in time. The Browns outscored the Giants 28-7 in the fourth quarter to break open a close game in the first meeting. New York committed six turnovers, two of which were fumbles returned for TDs in the fourth quarter by defensive end Paul Wiggin and special teamer Charley Scales. In the title-clincher seven games later, Browns quarterback Frank Ryan ran for a TD and then threw four straight scoring passes to key the rout. Ryan then fired three TD passes to wide receiver Gary Collins two weeks later to lead a stunning 27-0 victory over the Baltimore Colts in the NFL Championship Game.

bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 12:01 pm

Browns Inactives vs. NYG: T. Lewis, M. Massaquoi, B. Jackson, T. Gipson, R. Miller, T. Benjamin and A. Smith.


here we go again with Jackson inactive & total BUST Hardesty who shouldnt even be in the league active ???



this is dumbest coaching staff in the league


12 games to go before kicking all these losers to the curb Yell


i just want to smash Heckerts & Shurmurs face in with a brick and kick Holmgren in the jewels ..


damn they piss me off !!!!!

bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 12:18 pm

Duff a glass of your finest and for my good friend bluez here...<cite>www.onlineangercourse.com/


</cite>HERE WE GO BROWNIES HERE WE GO!

WOOF WOOF!!

Irish Dawg 42
SinceOct 6, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 12:23 pm

Irish thanks


i get a little fired up on gamedays Embarassed
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 12:24 pm

there still STUPID Laughing

better now
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 1:04 pm

The Browns routed the Giants 42-20 at Cleveland in mid-season and then defeated them even worse, 52-20


So when was the last time the Browns scored 52 points?  or 42 for that matter?

I can recall them giving up 43 points, and 51 points...

 
WahooJake
SinceSep 1, 2008
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 3:01 pm

Frown
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 3:03 pm

a framiliar scene ..the Giants can do anything they want to against this sorry Browns defense 


the offense to young 


blowout is next 


will they win a game this year ?


pathetic  
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 3:04 pm

 can recall them giving up 43 points, and 51 points...



may happen before this day is overwith

12 game no check that 11.5 games left then dump this regime top to bottom .


clean house on these rejects Yell 
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 3:08 pm

I'm with you bluez.  Looks like the quit today.  They might not win a game this year...   Once they quit on the coach, it's all over..

Although you can't blame Shurmur for the INT (29 year old rookie mistake), fumble (Josh still woozy?) or the interferenece penalty (overatched Skrine)...  

But you have to blame somebody and it will be Fritz...

34-3 since Browns led 14-0...



 
WahooJake
SinceSep 1, 2008
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 3:09 pm

nice return by Cribs, another drop by Little...
WahooJake
SinceSep 1, 2008
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 3:12 pm

DQ, Haden, Patterson all out...  I am gonna say 52-20 Giants..
WahooJake
SinceSep 1, 2008
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 3:48 pm

now outscored 41-6...  Does Shurmur have a panic attack?
WahooJake
SinceSep 1, 2008
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 3:55 pm

Foot in mouth Yell Sealed

DAMN we suck...
CaptObvious
SinceJan 27, 2009
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

October 7, 2012 4:01 pm


now outscored 41-6...  Does Shurmur have a panic attack?


no because you have to have a pulse to have one...
WahooJake
SinceSep 1, 2008