Dawg Pound Lounge ,

i would take a chance on Floyd myself .

Bluez has had a couple run ins with the law over the years . i am no bad guy so with that said i am all about second chances . if Floyd has matured .it takes some longer than others  then yes take him at 22 if he is still there . lets hope a skill player drops in the draft .

the single most important make or break this current regime draft is less than a week away .


turn this chit around .please enoufgh is enoufgh . we have suffered enoufgh football Gods . someone elses turn ..like the Ratbirds who truly deserve to suffer .

Like the way this guys writes, DBD From CBS Sports Clark Judge: and he's pretty point on isn't he ?  Looks like a pretty good summation, all in all ...

Only asking cause  you know, wanna keep friends close, but the Browns even closer !!!

Might as well know what your up too or able to get too !


MoS

turn this chit around .please enoufgh is enoufgh . we have suffered enoufgh football Gods . someone elses turn .

AMEN . . .



I don't have much more time to wait . . .   please

At a time everything relating to the NFL seems to be getting more and more expensive, one fairly significant aspect of the fan experience is getting cheaper.

According to Bloomberg.com, via SportsBusiness Daily, DirecTV will cut the price of its Sunday Ticket feature by more than 40 percent, to $199.95.

Also, the service once again will be provided free for one season to new subscribers.

Since 1994, Sunday Ticket has held exclusive rights to out-of-market games, making it an indispensable tool for anyone who follows a team that doesn’t have a local connection.

i have a PS3 but am stuck with crappy Time Warner cable . problem solved now i can watch the Browns win 6 games this year since they cut a deal to stream Sunday Ticket through the PS3 .

I still smell a rat somewhere

I don't have much more time to wait . . .   please

dg ..I Know there are a few of us who wished that we were in better health .


Hurry up here Browns i would like to see a winner or at least a respectable team in my life time

have a great safe weekend all .

I've had the Sunday Tic with Direct TV  for probably 10 years or so...Once Columbus area TV station decided to start showing Bengals games because the Browns were so gawd awful, I had no choice....Even awful Browns, are still my team....But i love the service. It's great for that Sunday 4 pm game, when I want to follow my fantasy teams rather than watch the slated game in our area...

I love the Red Zone channel too....Football on TV has become a real art.  I don't even know what I pay for my sports programming, but I know it's worth it to me....

I was going to get the NFL Sunday Ticket for one of my wife's Sports Bars but it was
going to cost us $2,400, and that was after I convinced the Fire Department to list
her occupancy to under 100 people.    The first year she had it she paid $750 and the
only time we had more than 12 people come in for a game was when the Browns weren't
televised.   It just wasn't worth renewing.

I remember a few years ago when the Browns had a Thursday night game against the Steelers,
(not the one they won) we had over 60 people come in because you had to have the Direct TV
just to watch the game.   The town of 12,00 people (Urbana, Ohio) was pretty much blacked out due to a storm
so we were one of the few areas that still had electricty.   They are just about ready to kick off when 
the 40 MPH winds knocks our Dish the wrong direction on the roof.    I grab an extension later and try to get
up onto the roof but the wind blows the ladder down before I can attempt to go up.  I go back inside the back door
to get a few guys to help me hold the ladder and there were only 6 people out of 60 left in the bar.
The rest of the people got in there cars and rushed to Springfield hoping to catch the game elsewhere.
At that point I said the heck with it I wasn't going to risk killing myself to fix the problem.

Mixed Martial Arts on Pay-For-View is another big waste of money.    A guy called me early one evening
when I was working at my wife's sports bar and asked me if I would rent the fights.  I asked him how much
it would cost me.  He said he thought it was $40 or $45.  Since he said there were going to be 12 to 14 people 
in his group I told him to come on in and I would rent the fights.   I then called to order the fights on pay-for-view
and they told me it would cost me $750.   I told them they were crazy and canceled my order.    A year or so
later we kept getting fliers about ordering MMA fights at a discount rate so I thought maybe they had finally
came down off their high horse and considered ordering the fights for another group.  This time they told me
that due to our occupancy it would cost over $900.   

Another bar in another town my wife also has a bar in use to have the MMA pay-for-view fights but they had
to drop them because they were losing to much money.   A lot of the guys coming to watch the fights were drinking
either water or pop because they too thought they were fighters or something.  Some would come in late just to
watch the main fight or something.  Anyhow most of the fight fans were not big drinkers and would leave right after  
 after the fights were over.    The fights just were not profitable.    It was like trying to have a Hip Hop band at a Hillbilly Bar,
it just wasn't profitable. 

THE NFL SUNDAY TICKET AND PAY-FOR-VIEW FIGHTS ARE JUST NOT
WORTH THE MONEY THEY CHARGE TO BUSINESSES. 

                            

I remember a few years ago when the Browns had a Thursday night game against the Steelers,
(not the one they won) we had over 60 people come in because you had to have the Direct TV
just to watch the game.   The town of 12,00 people (Urbana, Ohio) was pretty much blacked out due to a storm
so we were one of the few areas that still had electricty.   They are just about ready to kick off when 
the 40 MPH winds knocks our Dish the wrong direction on the roof. 

I remember that storm well Davey . all of Logan / Champaing counties lost power due to a hurricane in Ohio ???

Desporadoes had a generator so i watched it from there . Direct TV Ripps off Sports bars for the price of Sunday ticket . all of the ones at the Lake / Bellefontaine area all told them to shove it . even if you get the crowd it still doesent justify there greed or what the bar owner has to pay out for the services .

I have already marked Nov 25th on my calendar.  Should be a great weekend.  OSU/That team up north and Pittsburgh at Cleveland.  

woot woot...   

One thing about Art Modell's Browns.....We never had to worry in central Ohio who the network was going to show when the Browns game conflicted with the Bengals game....They would ALWAYS show the Browns.  It was never even a question...

Unfortunately the same can not be said for Mr. Lerner's Browns...


Even I have to admit, the Browns have been so irrelavant since 99,  it's hard to blame the local stations for choosing to show meaningful games...So I pay for the "Sunday Ticket"....

But yeah, it's ridiculous what the bars and restaurants have to pay....I used to work in that business in the late 80's early 90's for Damon's Restaurants/sports bars  based out of Columbus....In those days it was  worth it to the bar owners to have the ticket...today, everybody has access  so easily at home, it just crushed the industry...Back then, nobody wanted those gigantic dishes on their roof at home....   So they went to the sports bars to watch all the games.   It was standing room only on NFL Sunday's.  We used to just pack them in, every Sunday, full to capacity and then some.....These days, plenty of good seats available....I think techmology hurt the sports bars more than anything. 

One thing about Art Modell's Browns.....We never had to worry in central Ohio who the network was going to show when the Browns game conflicted with the Bengals game....They would ALWAYS show the Browns.  It was never even a question...

Unfortunately the same can not be said for Mr. Lerner's Browns...

true statement



the Browns were always on the tube . it was never a question . i liked it better when NBC had the weekly games and not cBS . Lima is a Browns town so TV 35 always had the Browns on . TV 22 out of Dayton had the Bengals on so no conflict .

now i am stuck with TV10 Cowlumbus & TV 7 Dayton which is in Bengal territory . all i can hope for is the Bungels and there fair weather fans stay away so the home games are blacked out then i get the Browns on TV 7 .

if the Browns play as ugly as they did last season on offense i might be better off not seeing that embarassing disorganised heartless mess . 

I think techmology hurt the sports bars more than anything. 

True...Who wants to go to a bar and watch a 50" flat screen with 80 strangers and your small table of 2-3 friends while spending $3.00 per beer, when you can have 6-10 friends over to watch that same size flat screen in your living room and have any kind of beer you could imagine purchased right at your local grocery...

That is the other thing that has changed...In the 90's- early 2000's, we would go to bars just to get a taste of micro brews/exotic imports..The store usually had about 3-5 imports and the rest domestic cookie cutter beer. Now it some times takes me ten minutes to pick out my beer, because I always have Yeungling on hand at home, an Irish Red(usually Smithwicks or Killians) and then I buy another 6 pack of something I have never tried and there is an entire half isle dedicated to these craft beers...I LOVE IT!!


These are days of home entertainment, which really is bad for local business. What bar can you spend half time playing a quick game of Madden on the PS3?

These are days of home entertainment, which really is bad for local business. What bar can you spend half time playing a quick game of Madden on the PS3?

a new private club just opened up here .20.00$ for membership . great idea as it keeps the knuckle heads out for a cheap price . the owner has a PS3 hooked up on a corner 42'  TV . with all the sports games . for 50 cents you can play Madden  tiger woods golf or my favorite right now MLB 12 the show which i have here actualy i have them all here . yes i am a big kid who like his PS3

he is a long time Browns fan . he contacted Direct TV but like we already discussed they want to much . he will stream it through the PS3 at a much discounted price  its his way of getting around paying them the big bucks . brilliant as long as it works .


crappy weather day today . looks like a movie game day here at the Bluez household . my GF called she is comming over tonight . we are just going to hang out and be lazy . sounds good after last nights events . i had fun but ..

my hair hurts this morning .. a friend of mines B Day was yesterday  . fitting he was born on 420

Irish after being stationed in Germany i had a helluva time finding a beer i liked when i got back stateside . i think at one point i tried them all before settling on Sam Adams light and now its pretty much Yuengling for me .

you can buy imported German beer but its watered down from what you have over there . the beer Gods do live in Barvaria

thank you Augsburg West Germany for the best years of my life . i didnt know it at the time as i was in a combat arms unit close to the Check border . we worked our tails off but when we had free time we played hard and made the most of it .

i found a facebook page dedicated to those times . its heart warming taliking with both the Americans but also the Germans we meet over there .

i plan to get back some day to Augsburg . much has changed since the wall came down . i have seen pictures of our old Karserns being tore down to make way for new projects .

our old barracks were WWII German barracks that were somewhat renovated . it was home for us .

if you get the chance visit Augsburg the history and beauty is breath taking .

I just changed my av to show my old barracks in Germany . we were on the second floor . Bravo Bttry was on the third .i was in Alpha Bttry .  sometimes boys would be boys and we would beat hell out of one another . the competion to be the best was quite fierce at times .

we had friends in the same unit but at times you squared off against one another . those friendships were put on hold that week as nobody wanted to lose out between the three firing bttrys . Charlie Bttry was in a different area so the competion wasnt quite as fierce as we shared a building with Bravo .

BEREA -- The best hope for the Cleveland Browns sat at a podium Thursday and talked about the teams draft plans.He didnt explain everything, because he cant. But he sure explained a lot. And he did it in a friendly, patient way that brought at least a little belief that it might well work. It has to happen, but at this point in their history the Browns need any sense of belief they can find.Tom Heckert grew up with football. His father Tom was one of the more respected personnel guys in the league, and when he worked for the Miami Dolphins Don Shula trusted his decisions. Earning Shulas trust was no simple matter.Tom the son worked for his father before growing on his own into a respected personnel guy with the Eagles. There, Andy Reid had final say on decisions, so some give credit (and blame) for the Eagles choice to Reid.But Heckert had input.Now Heckert runs the show in Cleveland.Hes a football-oriented guy making sound football choices based on sound logic. At least thats the hope. Just like its the hope that eventually those decisions will yield more wins to a team and fan base that needs every win it can find.The perceived biggest news from Heckerts news conference was that the Browns had their choice for their first pick narrowed down to two players. This sounded big, but in reality its not. The Browns pick fourth and even mountain climbers on the top of Everest know the first two picks will be quarterbacks Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. So essentially the Browns are on the clock with the second pick.If they dont have it narrowed down at this point, theyve not been working.Heckerts most interesting insights dribbled out as he answered questions. There he talked about his philosophy to ensure he gets a guy in the round he should be taken, his philosophy on trading up or down and his feelings about where the Browns are in relation to a possible trade.A year ago, the Browns had jettisoned most of the guys Eric Mangini brought in his first year as coach -- the Kenyon Colemans and Eric Bartons of the world. That made the Browns younger, but left the roster without numbers. Heckert felt one impact player would not have made that much difference, so he traded down out of the sixth spot and (with a trade up) drafted 21st.I wouldnt do that trade this year, he said, adding he has a limit to how far down hed trade.But he will be flexible. Heckert puts a round grade on each player, then tries to ensure said player is taken in the proper round. Which of course requires the cooperation of the other 31 teams.We all know there is a big part of luck in this draft and thats just the way it is, he said.But luck, as they say, is also the residue of design. Heckert admitted making mistakes (a refreshing notion), saying hes traded up to fill a need when he shouldnt have. Its why he does his best to stick to the evaluations.In a perfect world, wed draft a good player at a need position, he said. If it came down to it, it has to be the player over the need.This year Heckert said the Browns have first-round grades on 18 players, and hes confident hell be able to get one of the 18 when they pick 22nd (with Atlantas pick acquired a year ago). If the 18 are gone? Heckert waved his hand behind his head, thumb raised, and said, Get out.As in get out of the 22nd pick, either by moving up to get one of the 18, or moving down to get an extra pick.Heckerts overall goal: Get fast, physical players on defense, and fast guys on offense who can score touchdowns.I think we are on our way with the defense, he said. Do we need more help there? Yes. Offensively, everyone knows it - its not a secret - we need guys that can score points.In two years, the drafts run by Heckert have produced nine starters, four on defense, five on offense (including Colt McCoy). He has traded for or signed three more starters on defense (Chris Gocong, Scott Fujita and Sheldon Brown) and extended the contract of one starter on offense (Joe Thomas) and one on defense (DQwell Jackson).He expects the first three selections in this draft to start. Add another one or two from the mid-to-late rounds and the Browns lineup would have Heckerts stamp.Browns fans are all too familiar with this transition. Every team goes through it when it changes regimes, and change has been the one constant with the Browns. Mangini, Phil Savage, Butch Davis, Dwight Clark all had their methods. None worked, in part because lack of success led to dismissal and starting over -- again and againThirteen years of frustration have boiled down to this reality: The Browns best hope lies in their GM.Some people say (the draft picks) are starting because we arent very good, but that remains to be seen, Heckert said. We disagree with that, we think they are starting because they are good enough to start. If we can keep that up, and thats what our plans are but if you dont, my philosophy about building through the draft doesnt work.So you better draft good players.

I love the Irish beers...Always got killians, cuz thats what the wifey likes on occassion....Usually she prefers red wine though.   Tried a Murphy's Irish Red  last night...Not bad.   But nothing touches my favorite, Guinness....I don't even want to know how many of my dollars wind up in Arthur's pocket...  But I love it....

It's an acquired taste evidently...That's another benefit in my book.  Most of my friends and family members don't like it!

Murphy's is awesome TD...It is on a rotation in our local grocery though, I can't always get it.