There are a lot of you out there. People ready to jump ship left and right. Ignorant people who love to try and blame the team's troubles on one or two players and who call for cutting players without taking into account any circumstances outside of their narrow perspective. All i read on here is get rid of J.C., he sucks. Or get rid of Portis, he sucks. Carlos Rogers cant catch a cold, gid rid of him. Its OBVIOUS that the Redskins front office and coaching staff messed this season up with their choices. The players dont have a say in who is on the team, who coaches the team, or for that matter what plays are called. The whole offensive line needed to be addressed in the offseason and nothing was done. Zorn was not a good choice for head coach but he was chosen. NO ONE in management took the time to build a TEAM. They didnt stop to think about what players would go best together to play as a TEAM. How anyone can sit there and blame J.C. for every loss is beyond me. If you are one of these people heres a clue: NO ONE WOULD PLAY WELL IN THIS OFFENSE. Peyton Manning would have a bad year playing for the Redskins. J.C. is doing better than right now than Sanchez or Stafford statistically. Neither one of those two would even be close to what they are doing now if they played for the Skins and they are still behind J.C. Some of you are saying Clinton Portis has "over stayed his welcome" HAHA, are you freaking serious? Even with this terrible offense he's currently 12th in the NFL in yrds. Not too shabby considering he's 11th in number of attempts. Im not sure who is, or will be, available that will be so much better. YEAH LETS GET RID OF CARLOS ROGERS!! Nevermind he has to cover the opposing team's best receiver almost every game, all game long, and usually shuts them down. He drops potential interceptions so he is worthless. The stupidity never ceases to amaze me. Haynesworth takes all kinds of knocks on here as well. Maybe try watching a game sometime and focus on something other than the actual football itself and who has it and watch the interior line play. Albert gets double teamed 75% of the time he is out there. In case math isnt your strong point that means that someone else on defense is freed up to make a play. They paid a lot for him and I think it should have been spent on the offensive line instead, but there is no denying that he makes the game 11 on 10 in favor of Washington's defense when they double team him. This TEAM is BAD, not neccesarily the players on it. A good team has players that compliment each other and one man's weakness is another man's strength throughout. That philosophy was NOT taken into account when the front office put this team together and thats the NUMBER 1 problem. All you people pointing fingers at individual players and blaming them for these losses just dont have a clue and need to look at the big picture for once. Oh yeah, and anyone who isnt supporting the team and wanting to jump ship to some other team that is winning right now; GOOD RIDDANCE! Dont bother coming back when the Skins get it together and get back to winning. All you people that have been booing in the stands need to stay home. Thats really going to get the team playing better, a bunch of classless drunk douchebags**** booing them from the stands as they wolf down a mustard covered hot dog.
MMM MMM, reading your post is like a buffet for Redskins fan's who do get the big picture, and have to explain it to guys like you who come out of no where to defend the likes of the Auburn Tigers...and then throw someone from THE U in there so as to hide your true motives....yeah, I'm on to you.
There are a lot of you out there. People ready to jump ship left and right. Ignorant people who love to try and blame the team's troubles on one or two players and who call for cutting players without taking into account any circumstances outside of their narrow perspective No one reading this post has jumped ship, if they have, they would be on the Washington Capitals/Wizards board. And maybe not one or two players are responsible, it's one or two people, Daniel M. Snyder and Vinny Cerrato.
All i read on here is get rid of J.C., he sucks. Or get rid of Portis, he sucks. Carlos Rogers cant catch a cold, gid rid of him. Well Jason Campbell does suck. Portis is old, but we may have to tolerate him for two more years or so. And Carlos Rogers can't catch a cold, but that doesn't mean that I don't think that he doesn't have a spot on the Redskins down the road, that's why he plays defense IMO, and he's good at his job.
The whole offensive line needed to be addressed in the offseason and nothing was done What are you talking about? We brought in Derrick Dockery AND Mike Williams. Are you kidding me, who is this guy? In all seriousness, if you read the boards, the whole post, not just the part about Campbell being a bust, but the whole post that goes into why the team sucks, all of them start and end the same. Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato are terrible. They didn't address the line and they don't know what they are doing.
NO ONE WOULD PLAY WELL IN THIS OFFENSE. Peyton Manning would have a bad year playing for the Redskins. I think I've beat that one to death, if you want to start, go ahead, the bloody pulp is right over there on the floor. Zorn is a High School coach at best.
J.C. is doing better than right now than Sanchez or Stafford statistically Wow, way to be better then 2 rookies when you are in your 5th year in the National Football League. Good comparrison there.
Albert gets double teamed 75% of the time he is out there. In case math isnt your strong point that means that someone else on defense is freed up to make a play. They paid a lot for him and I think it should have been spent on the offensive line instead, but there is no denying that he makes the game 11 on 10 in favor of Washington's defense when they double team him. I agree with this 100%, if people aren't giving Albert his due, they ARE retarded. He's been worth every penny we gave him.
Oh yeah, and anyone who isnt supporting the team and wanting to jump ship to some other team that is winning right now; GOOD RIDDANCE! Dont bother coming back when the Skins get it together and get back to winning. All you people that have been booing in the stands need to stay home. Thats really going to get the team playing better, a bunch of classless drunk douchebags******** booing them from the stands as they wolf down a mustard covered hot dog. Didn't you guys have a Who Dey Revolution not too long ago? Well, welcome to the Pig Pen brother. I don't know what you tried to accomplish with this post, but you come in here preaching BIG PICTURE this and that and are mainly defending your Auburn Alums, which is admirable, but don't do it on here if you don't know what you are talking about. You are the same guy who came in screaming after Campbell got benched and saying, oh you got what you deserved. And guess what, JC was there on Monday Night last week, and he didn't dissapoint. He's not the only problem on this team, but he is not an NFL caliber quarterback. End of story.
Oh yeah, and anyone who isnt supporting the team and wanting to jump ship to some other team that is winning right now; GOOD RIDDANCE! Dont bother coming back when the Skins get it together and get back to winning. All you people that have been booing in the stands need to stay home.I haven't heard anyone say they are going to jump ship and root for a winning team. I've heard people state they will boycott by not spending any more money to line Danny's pockets and that includes myself. I am always a fan and until that football puppeteer idiot sells or knows how to build a team, I refuse to spend any money on the Redskins. I will watch them every week on TV in the comfort of my home, like I always have anyways, & buy NO merchandise what-so-ever. I know he is the ruination of the Skins. It starts with him and rolls down hill and there are many factors, but Dan Snyder is the main cause. I don't blame the fans for booing. There has also been a little turmoil in the locker room. Look what those guys get paid, can't say they have all gave 100% each game. I know they are not just booing the players, they hate Snyder & Vinny too.
I can support this team with my heart, but that is as far as it goes with Danny boy at the helm unless something gives. If you are too blind to see we may only win one more game the rest of the year, and yes, I will be glued to my television every game, how can you be all that supportive of the team that Danny built over ten years. You think it is bad now, just wait come December. I think all of us fans would like to see a change... wouldn't you?
bhdau, your whole post comes down to backing Auburn players who were great that came out that year-- undefeated right? well they really suck at the pro level. You can have campbell back and maybe teach him how to read a defense or hold onto the ball or something. The Redskins front office does suck and they are the same ones who drafted those auburn bums.
So let me get this straight, you, a Bengals fan, came here to tell us how we should support OUR Redskins team that most of us have been following for decades? Puhhhhlease! Everyone can see that you are just a barner who gets mad when people tell the truth about former AU alumni like Campbell and Rogers. If you had suffered through the last 10 years of Snyder's fantasy football like we all have, you'd be singing a different tune.
We are all still Redskins fans and most of us always will be, but to think that we should sit around with phony smiles on our faces and pretend that everything is peachy with our team is just plain stupid. Fans booing a team and retracting monetary support is akin to voters kicking politicians out of office for not doing what's best for the people. If we keep drinking the front office Kool Aid, we'll never get them to change a damn thing. That's just how it is. Money is #1 and everything else is wallowing in #2. And...once in awhile, someone has to pick up one of those brown trout that the Redskins offense keeps laying on the field, rare back real good and throw that attention getter right into the faces of the front office. That's what fan criticism, witholding of monetary support, and booing at the games does. Like it or not, it will eventually bring about change.
Dan Snyder must learn that you cannot place a tornado in a junk yard and end up with a Rolls Royce. Or, to put it in football terms, you cannot place an idiot (Vinny Cerrato)and an egomaniac (Snyder) in an NFL front office and end up with a successful football TEAM. It has not happened in ten years and it will never happen if we fans just sit around quietly with open wallets.
BHDAU1- sometimes you just gotta say no the ENDO. you are obviously high. Noone said they were changing allegiances. However, I will get on Carlos Rogers when he doesn't play with heart. I will get on Jason Campbell when he plays like a big pile of steaming(fill in the blank). I defended him for a long time but the MNF game against the Eagles did it for me. He's had long enough and it's obvious he doesn't have what it takes. If those guys give you the warm and fuzzies and you're tired of us redskin fans saying negative things about 'em, I've got a deal for you. We'll give you both of em for Carson Palmer. No strings attached. No? That's what I thought.
BHDAU1, this post is all over the place. You correctly place the blame for the teams' woes on the front office and coaching staff, but then take the stance that none of the players have any responsibility. So which one is it- did Vinny Cerrato (as he said it) hand Jim Zorn a playoff-caliber team, or is Vinny Cerrato a talentless jerk who wouldn't know a good football team if it bit him in the butt ?
Redskins fans are tired of the lies. Wanting Jason Campbell gone is a no brainer- he's a modest backup-quality player struggling. Clinton Portis is a diva who takes himself out of the game and then questions his teammates' integrity. Carlos Rogers is guilty of nothing, other than being incorrectly billed as a "shutdown corner", which he is anything but. Me- I want to get rid of almost all of them. Properly blowing up the team and building fresh from the draft. The a-hole control freak owner has been the one ruining team chemisty by buying 2 or 3 expensive free agents every year and ignoring the true emerging strengths of the roster. Oh yeah, and anyone who isnt supporting the team and wanting to jump ship to some other team that is winning right now; GOOD RIDDANCE! Dont bother coming back when the Skins get it together and get back to winning. All you people that have been booing in the stands need to stay home. Thats really going to get the team playing better, a bunch of classless drunk douchebags******** booing them from the stands as they wolf down a mustard covered hot dog. Btw- those are $5 hotdogs; they don't taste very good, and aren't kosher, all-beef. Oh, so fans don't have the right to question the terrible ownership, lack of good football sense, and miserable quality of entertainment that the Redskins put on the field ? Let's get something straight- this is OUR team. We, the fans, are in revolt because we're not just tired of losing, we're tired of the awful little man with a big ego problem that seeks to destroy the team. Boycott the team, and you will improve the team.
OK, LET ME APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR NOT CHECKING THE BOX NEXT TO THE Redskins WHEN I SIGNED UP FOREVER AGO. I DIDNT REALIZE THAT IF I DIDNT CHECK THAT BOX THAT I WOULD BE DISCREDITED AS A SKINS FAN BECAUSE OF IT. GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK. While the Skins arent my favorite team, I have been a fan and pulled for them long before J.C. and Rogers were drafted there. I grew in KY so I didnt have a local pro team to pull for. The way some of you replied I guess there is some unspoken rule that you cant be a fan of more than one team. Sorry but I pull for a few different teams.
1. First off, NOWHERE did I say Campbell is good! He has been a dissapointment for sure. But how many freaking posts on this team's board blame him for the losing? Easy answer: a freaking ton of them. I dont need to paste them here because if you guys read these threads regularly like I do you know all about them. 2. Why did I compare J.C. to Sanchez and Stafford???? How easily you forget how many people on these boards WANTED TO DRAFT ONE OF THOSE TWO THIS LAST DRAFT! It's who a lot of Skins fans wanted behind center! They are not doing very well and they are ranked behind J.C. in stats so to think they would have made a difference this year is incorrect. That why I made the comparison. 3. NOWHERE did I say that the fans dont have a RIGHT to question the team but its how some of you go about it that is troubling. 4. Whomever said I must be high is a moron. Dont respond to the thread if it is so ridiculous. See a thread you dont agree with - reply with the author must be high= class and intelligence. 5. Misterfamous, Im not sure how you can say that "Rogers is incorrectly billed as a shut down corner"?? Who would label him as such? The answer are the other team's coaches and players who have to face him. Sorry, but ill take their opinion over yours and with the stats to back it up and watching him play every weekend I would say the reputation is warranted.
BHDAU1 - I actually agree with quite a bit of your post, however there are some points that I disagree with:
1 - Jason Campbell has had plenty of time to prove himself but he has failed to do so. I personally defended and made excuses for him up until just a few weeks ago but I can't do so anymore. It's not all his fault, true, but he hasn't done anything to quiet the critics either.
2 - Clinton Portis, as good as he has been for us over the years, is on the downside of his career. We need to rebuild and if we can get some young talent or draft picks for him while he still has value, I would be all for it. From what I read he is not the best influence within the locker room either.
I haven't heard anyone say that they are abandoning the team. Redskins fans are as loyal as they get. Many of us (myself included) have become so frustrated with management/ownership that we refuse to buy Redskins merchandise though. Doesn't mean I don't wear the stuff I already own, just that I refuse to give Snyder any more of my money.
I agree with the essence of your original post. Alot of skins fans have become disillusioned to the point they want to give up or starting bashing everyone (Snyder, Vinny, Zorn, JC, O-line, D-line, secondary, ST, coaches) and even other skins fans that seem to be supporting the team.
Your agrument on JC and o-line is partly right. Alot of the fault lies with the o-line play but a fair share of the blame lies with JC as well, more than you think my friend.
Carlos Rogers is an above average corner who seems to have ball handling problems. He is useful here but we shouldn't offer him a big payday. He is not a top corner.
Our running woes is not because of Portis but mainly our o-line and its blocking schemes. However, I think parting ways with Portis is the way to go, he is not a leader and he is slowing down. He doesn't want to practice but wants play every sunday. I am all for getting a speedy back in the draft (Javon Ringer type pick) and phase out CP next year.
I see some of the posters here calling others names, I get the frustration mates but don't let it get to the point where you start turning on your fellow skins fans.
Crackerman, you are a prick of the worst kind. I read all the garbage you spew all the time reading thru these threads and I cant think of a single positive comment you have ever written. You are one of those classless idiots I am refering to. You say "wow are you serious" comparing J.C. to a rookie. HAHA Thats funny. Does this look familiar?
"I think its still to early to start comparing numbers of all three guys but my early impressions are JC is still the same old JC making scared descions throwing the safe pass not leading this team and playing not to lose. Sanchez looks IMPRESSIVE im not even talking about the numbers im just talking about how he reacts in the pocket, he is one cool customer back there and looks more like a 5 year vet than a first year rookie."
It should look familiar to you, you wrote it not too long ago!!!!!!!!!!! So I guess if I am a "geniuos" then you are too. Maybe next time when attempting to call someone stupid, spell the word genius correctly and you might be more effective in your use of sarcasm. The fact that you couldnt comprehend why I was giving that comparison is ample enough evidence that you are a shallow thinker, telling me F U and all the other BS you typed just shows I have puddles in my driveway with more depth.
Actually Slam, the avatar should be the team picture of the Washington Weedskins...............Fumbling, missing tackles, throwing interceptions, dropping passes, ets.........total losers, just like you.But it isn't! Jints, sorry, but its actually a pic of your own Eli (poor Eli) of your elite New York Football Giants, one year removed from the Super Bowl Champs. Don't give me the blah blah blah of the Redskins, I know they suck, you are the one who comes over here and has used the word "ELITE" with the Giants. How elite are they now? You haven't been around so much little girl since they have been losing! We don't run and hide when the Redskins are down; and they are way down. Gotta come up with something better than that.
