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Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago


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- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 8:47 am

Bay is virtually the same hitter that J.D. Drew was when the Red Sox gave Drew $70 million over five years three years ago. Look at the comparison:

<!--tablemaker-->PlayerAgeGAVG/OBP/SLGOPSOPS+Bay31922.280/.376/.519.895131Drew31
960.286/.393/.512.905132
From SI.com


Now you have to look at inceases in contracts over this time period, so there is going to be a slight increase in the money.  Although I thought that I had heard that they were intially descussing a 3 year deal, could be wrong.  Also it seems that Bay in not as good as a fielder as J.D. was before having everything happen with injuries.

Do Sox fan see Theo trying to ink Bay to a 5 year deal, personally I wouldn't want them too if I were a fan?
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 8:47 am

Hot Stove Bump
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 8:48 am

Drew never had the power, and especially durability of Bay.
Bay could also steal 30 bags a year, something Nancy couldnt do!
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 8:49 am

i never wanted him in the first place but they have to resign him now or they essentially gave Manny Ramirez away for nothing, that trade was bad enough lets not make it worse by getting rid of the guy that was traded for
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 8:50 am

Player     Age     G       Avg/OBP/SLG       OPS    OPS+
Bay        31       922    .280/.376/.519    .895    131
Drew      31       960     .286/.393/.512    .905    132

Sorry that the stats in the first post were off, hate CBS formating
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 8:53 am

i never wanted him in the first place but they have to resign him now or they essentially gave Manny Ramirez away for nothing, that trade was bad enough lets not make it worse by getting rid of the guy that was traded for


I guess the way I look at it is that the market for LF'er right now is very thin.  Your choices are to hold onto Bay, Overpay for Holliday, Bring back noodle arm Demon, or get a secondary player that will not come close to your past output.  I think you have to re-sign Bay but at what cost.

 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:14 am

Times have also changed as far as money is concerned

Rumor is they have offered him 4 years at 60 million

They need to resign him
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:17 am

They need to resign him
I think so too
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:21 am

Rumor is they have offered him 4 years at 60 million

They need to resign him


This in only $1 Million more per if you weight the contract equaly per year.  I understand that this is an inital offer, where do you think they draw the line and walk away or do they sign him at all cost?

 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:23 am

mmmmm breakfast pizza
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:25 am

mmmmm breakfast pizza


Must say that I would prefer a breakfast burrito, but thats just me.

 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:26 am

I could care less if they resign either one of them.  I like to think like a general manager, whatever you can do to make your team better...do it.  Baseball is'nt even about the regular season anymore,  it's about the off-season,  I think the Yankee's just proved it...they could'nt win a ring, so they went out and bought one.  Thats what the Sox are going to have to do to compete.
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:30 am

Must say that I would prefer a breakfast burrito, but thats just me.


depends on the day....today, breakfast pizza!!
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:32 am

depends on the day....today, breakfast pizza!!
Froot-Loops and Strawberry Pop-Tarts for me please
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:33 am

I could care less if they resign either one of them.  I like to think like a general manager, whatever you can do to make your team better...do it.  Baseball is'nt even about the regular season anymore,  it's about the off-season,  I think the Yankee's just proved it...they could'nt win a ring, so they went out and bought one.  Thats what the Sox are going to have to do to compete.

Quit being bitter and acting like the Sox have not bought players in the past, ones that helpped them win two championships. 
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:37 am

Quit being bitter and acting like the Sox have not bought players in the past, ones that helpped them win two championships.  Don't wanna argue but,  the Sox best players are homegrown (Lester,Ped., Youk)

Are you comparing Schilling's payrole to CC's and AJ's ?
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:42 am

 could care less if they resign either one of them.  I like to think like a general manager, whatever you can do to make your team better...do it.  Baseball is'nt even about the regular season anymore,  it's about the off-season,  I think the Yankee's just proved it...they could'nt win a ring, so they went out and bought one.  Thats what the Sox are going to have to do to compete.

Ever here the saying you have to make hay when the sun is shining. This free agent market could best be described as partly sunny. No team is gong to buy any type championship with this market. I can forsee so bad contracts coming with teams over paying for mediocre talent. Theo was one year ahead of the low risk high reward market.
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:45 am

This is a perfect case of where numbers might be similar, but the discrepancy in player's ability is enormous. 

Somebody mentioned that Drew can't touch Bay's durability, and that's absolutely true.  But in addition to that, Drew doesn't have Bay's power at the plate or passion for the game.  J.D. Drew has always struck me as a guy who doesn't really like baseball, but happens to be good enough at it to make a pretty decent living.

All that aside, I hope the Sox resign Bay.  He's a decent bad and seems to be a level-headed guy.  But it's pretty obvious that the Sox are way more than Jason Bay away from seriously competing for a WS.

 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:46 am

Don't wanna argue but,  the Sox best players are homegrown (Lester,Ped., Youk)

Are you comparing Schilling's payrole to CC's and AJ's ?

Were there a couple guys by the name of Papi and Manram that helped you win a couple rings, I can't remember?
 
- Bay = Drew of 3 Years Ago
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November 11, 2009 9:48 am

  But it's pretty obvious that the Sox are way more than Jason Bay away from seriously competing for a WS.
They need Lacky and trade for Adrian Gonzalez