The man can play both corner outfield spots pretty well, 1B, 2B, and 3B well, and I'm sure he could spot-start at SS or CF if need be. Heck, the guy's so versatile he would probably be the emergency catcher! Oh, did I mention he hits pretty well?
Maybe I'm just silly happy over him because he helped me win a fantasy title last year. Or maybe I just love the guys versatility on a team who needs depth at the 3B and OF positions.
1. He is going to be 35 this year and coming off an injury. 2. He only hit .220 in the 2nd half last year... Injury or age? 3. He will be a starter on other clubs and a back up on the Red Sox no matter how many positions he can play. 4. He made $5.5m last year. Why pay that or more for a 3rd player at 3B, remember Lowell and Youk, not to mention possibly Lowrie. 5. We just traded for Hermida to be the 4th OF.
Interesting idea but I just think he doesn't fit with the 2010 club. I think younger cheaper options are out there both on the FA market, internally which is prefferable and more Theoesque (Josh Reddick, Zach Daeges, or Brian Anderson)and as possible trade options.
1. He is going to be 35 this year and coming off an injury. 2. He only hit .220 in the 2nd half last year... Injury or age? 3. He will be a starter on other clubs and a back up on the Red Sox no matter how many positions he can play. 4. He made $5.5m last year. Why pay that or more for a 3rd player at 3B, remember Lowell and Youk, not to mention possibly Lowrie. 5. We just traded for Hermida to be the 4th OF.
The RS have stop doing these dredings. Picking up Smoltz and Penny were bad deals. Grabbing 35 year old players is not smart baseball no matter how well they play. This is especially true of catchers like Varitek. There just comes a point in one's life where they can't do it anymore.......whether it's playing behind the plate or mowing the front and back lawns on a Saturday morning. Some guys just can't quit and some ownership groups just can't say no.
I'd rather see a 24 year old from triple A get a chance to play. You know his speed and desire will be 25-35% greater than an older player. He'll do anything to to play and even more to stay. If he doesn't work out, send him back and bring up another one. Who knows, maybe we'll find another Mike Greenwell or Dewey Evans........
Signings off the scrap pile are not te answer. This team has to sit down and plan out for the long term. 1. make a legitamite offer to Jason Bay. You know what you have. He can handle the Boston pressure of the fans and the media. He's a near .300 htter who can punch out 30 HRs and drive in 100. 2. Make an offer to the Marlins for Hanley Ramirez. They can't keep him at his salary escalation over the next three years. It's going to cost a good young pitcher bt we can get him back in three years when the Marlins can't affrd him either. 3. Deal Johnathan Papelbon. He has no ntention of resignng with the Red Sox. He's going to be a mercenary and go for the big bucks....like New York. If you deal hm to Philadelphia, they'll overpay him and stays out of the AL. Get an evryday player from Philly or two or three top prospects for positions that you really help in the future like 3B. Youk is hitting the big 3-0. 4. Make the deal for Adrian Gnzalez. Jed Howry is the GM for San Diego and he knows what the future hold in SD. The future is not Arian Gonzalez but if he can get a cople of young arms from the Sox, the Padres will be much better in 2010-2013. 5. Make the big move for either Halladay or Hernandez. Bolster the starting rotation. if you can get both, do it and deal Beckett.
Theo has to get off his *ss and make some serious moves. The Yankees are set for the next 2-4 years whether they sign Damon or Holliday. if the RS don't sign Bay the Yankees will. Then what your looking at is Holliday, Matsui and Damon. Pay Bay and give him 5 years. He's not the potential dead money that JD Drew, Matsu and Damon may be.
BigKen while I agree with you on all the points you make being needs for the Red Sox or moves they need to make I just can't see more than one happening because the Sox don't have the prospects to make that many trades even if they trade Jonathan Papelbon for prospects.
I think they could make the Adrian Gonzalez trade happen or the Roy Halladay or if they were wiling to give up enough both. I don't see Hanley Ramirez or Felix Hernandez coming to the Sox they would cost a kings ransom and thats just not going to happen unfortunately.
I understand the Ramirez point and the Marlins being tight with their payroll but they rejected a trade last year, if the Sox get another pitcher they could use Clay Buchholtz as part of a deal but that is all if's and but's.
I,m a Red Sox fan for 43 yrs,and Mark DeRosa wsould be awesome,just so he stays helthy.I dont want Doc.I heard there after M.Cabrera,and A.Gonzalez.We should of went for C.Lee went we got V.Martinez
Unfortunately Theo thinks like you do Sportsfan. He's a bottom feeder and has proven it with useles deals and spending!! As for Agon as much as we would all like to see this happen it ain't gonna. Why would the Padres trade him with a total of like 7.5 million for his services for the next two years!! Besides that do you think Jed Hoyer would like his first trade to be with his former employer, I don't think so. I am still hoping that the Sox sign one of the two relievers that they asked for medical records from the Braves yesterday, then hopefully that will be part of a bigger deal some team for a steady reliable hitter!! But alas...............Theo will probably pull the trigger on the Derosa deal and we can watch another season tank, and another over aged player be useless to what has become the norm for our Sox!! We need hitting and not just Bay (which absolutely needs to be resigned), but another good steady bat, one that can make the bottom of the order better.
Slammer why all the negativity just wait and see what Theo has in store for the Sox. I know there might not be any major moves but I thin there will be, he tried last year for Mark Texiera, Hanley Ramirez and Zack Greinke but all for what ever reason never happened.
Lets hope the moves he tries this year do happen, Jason Bay needs to be signed, then get a big bat such as Adrian Gonzalez or Miguel Cabrera or if possible Joey Votto by trade. Then by hopefully trading Papelbon they can get a solid - good starting pitcher and sign Rafael Soriano from the Braves.
Theo knows significant moves need to be made to keep up with the Yankees and he will do what he can, in all honesty though we are only a player or 2 away in my eyes a big bat and a starting pitcher.
Ranger.........the biggest reason is because Theo wants to wait and get the money off the books for Lowell and Papi. There will be no long term splash signings even though we all want to see next year being competitve as usual. It ain't gonna happen my friend, pure and simple. He wants to get Mauer, move Vmart to first and Youk to third, after Lowell goes away. Can't trade lowell this year he makes 12.5 million and the Sox would have to pick up the greatest share of that, I'm sure. We don't stand an asshole****'s chance in hell of obtaining Mauer with Posada coming off the books for the Yankees at the end of '10!! Thats why they will not sign both Matsui and Damon this year. I bet they even let both walk this year. No Ranger this is the year for third place in the AL East, you heard it here first!! No moves by the Sox. Damn you THEOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry Slammer I disagree with you, Joe Mauer doesn't leave the Twins for a while. They are talking extension already and they want him around for the new stadium. He is a Twin for the long haul.
I see at least one big move happening this year. Theo needs to, he knows the current team won't win a world series so something will happen. 3rd place? not a chance. The Rays will be around but lack a few players to over take the Sox.
Francona and Theo have said V-Mart is the primary catcher this up coming season, they will not resign him if they have a shot at Mauer next year. So they will make a move for a big bat in some shape or form whether its 1st base or SS.
Slammer just like to blame Theo for everything. He forgets that Theo has helped deliver two world championships in the past six years. I know it has been terrible the last two years, going to the playoffs both years and this year the dreadful team the Sox trotted out there only won 95 games. With Slammer, the sky is always falling.
Just stating the facts Maam. Theo will not be making any deals that are earth shaking this year, just ain't gonna happen. Sorry guys. Remeber Theo ain't GOD, and yes he helped with breaking the world series drought of 86 years. But '10 we finish behind the Rays for third. Hermida was actually a decent pickup, but he's only a fourth outfielder, filling Baldelli's spot. Theo will rely on Lowrie for shortstop, not spending the 2.5 to 3 million to bring Alez Gonzalez back. He will save that money for next year. He has a plan JB it's just that it's not for 2010. You guys don't see that? Oh yeah your right JB, I do blame Theo...................cant blame the Indians. Only at the casinos!!!
We will have to agree to disagree Slammer the Red Sox have money and prospects they can use this won't be a slow off season like last year. Theo is not god but he sure can put a team together, JB points this out. Moves are going to happen just be patient.
Why do you think the Rays are better bet for 2nd? The Sox have better players overall and will have added more by spring training so I a not worried about the Rays. It's about keeping pace with the Yankees and Theo will do what he can. Even if the moves are not big ones remember this team beat the world series champions 8 straight during the season and were looking good until a bad run put the chances of the division title out of reach.
You know Rangers...................I too hope I am proved wrong, probably as much or more than you do!! But, Theo has stated that this will be a year with few IF any moves. Smoke screen? Hope so...... but I don't think so. He will bottom feed like usual but no major moves no matter how much money he has at hand. BTW................our prospects basically suck right now. Not much to bargain with, and the ones that could be used will fill holes in the future. I:E Iglasias and Kelly. Other than thos two pretty slim even for the Sox.
To be honest Slammer I think we have the prospects to make a big trade such as Michael Bowden, Daniel Bard, Junichi Tazawa, Clay Buchholz (I know you would like this lol) Josh Reddick and their are players such as Casey Kotchman and Jeremy Hermida who could be used also. This is why I think a trade could happen and would most likely happen as teams like the Padres would get 2 or 3 players who could come in from day 1 and some prospects.
I think if a trade happens the Red Sox sign one of the Braves pitchers Rafael Soriano or Mike Gonzalez to come in to the pen.
Rangers....................Of the first four you named two of them are NOT prospects anymore, they are intregral parts of the big team!! Yea even Buchy LOL. Those two players can not be traded even during a block buster move. The other ones are average throw aways, even Lars Anderson. I'm hoping there will be some really beneficial moves made to offeset last years Yankees buying, because if not...............read above. Again sorry guys just don't see anything happening, not even Bay. Although, I do have to admit that by giving Bay a 4 year offer for 60 million that really set a bar that's fair for both sides. It will be really interesting to see what other have to offer if any!! Maybe Theo played something right and Bay will be back. Only time will tell.
I know a couple of the above mentioned are part of the first team but they are still young guys I think that Daniel Bard could be moved if one of the Braves relievers signs with the Sox this adds another arm to the pen to cover Bard. I know he is seen as the closer of the future but we still have Papelbon for another couple of years and possibly Billy Wagner so the pen is full.
In terms of Buchy you need to give something up for quality players and if he goes we would sign someone else like
On the topic of Jason Bay I think he got offered fair value but a deal could happen. I wonder if the Red Sox offer Matt Holliday a big deal now, I feel he is an overall upgrade over Bay all be it not a giant one.
Lets just wait and see hopefully Theo will amaze us all with some big moves.
DeRosa is a utility bad A@#! I would love to see him with the sox. The dude is a stud and gets no pub, but he is a consistant hitter with decent pop. Great call, he helped my fantasy a couple years ago while w/ Cubs who should have never let him go to StL.
