Andy Reid makes poor decision in close games and like lessor experienced coaches on a poor team (Oakland) outcoach him but he is still considered a successful coach in the eyes of Jeffery Lurie because he gets his team into the playoffs year in and year out and keeps them competitive and that's all Lurie is asking for from his Coach. Andy Reid makes a lot of money for Lurie, so he would be foolish to let him go.
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You make some good points. Reid has put a lot of dough into Lurie's pockets. The only reason why I think they might let him go is because they haven't given him an extension yet, like his buddy coaching the Vikings.
"You make some good points. Reid has put a lot of dough into Lurie's pockets. The only reason why I think they might let him go is because they haven't given him an extension yet, like his buddy coaching the Vikings."
Trust me on this one DC, every year everyone from our fanbase and the media says that McNabb and Andy Reid will not be back and every year those two return for another season and make everyone look like fools. McNabb is outta here after 2010, the writing is on the wall, but he will be back next season. Andy will be giving a new contract as soon as the Eagles make the playoffs....which I still believe they will do, so we are stuck with him unfortunately. Marty Mornhinweg on the other hand is expendable, the Eagles need to address this position if they plan to fix their offensive woes, because Marty who is also the Assistant Head Coach is not getting it done.
I heard about Brad Childress getting a extension and rightfully so, the Vikings and the Saints are the cream of the crop in the NFC. Childress wanted Brett Favre and he did everything in his power to him and he's being rewarded for his hard work in address the only flaw on the Vikings team. Congrats to Brad Childress.
Both of the Eagles old assistants have better teams than the Eagles (Childress/Harbaugh) and have better running games too, I wonder who they learned the running game from because it damn sure wasn't Andy Reid!
lets get something straight. andy reid has more football knowledge in his moustach hair than u could ever hope to gain in a life time that's why he is a head coach and that's why he will be the Eagles coach for years to come. second i've seen quite a bit of critisism of his talent evaluation skills on this post but more of his draft picks over the last 4 years have been hits than misses.
sometime u people lose track the other side of the ball and just but all blame on mcnabb, reid, and the offense. and granted the defense has been pretty good so far they have had alot of misscommunications in the secondary this year. and the other little part of the game u guys forget about is the specials teams we have had alot of ST's penalties this year which gave teams like new orleans, dallas, and san diego great field position all game. when a team starts from their own 45 instead of their own 20 it make a world of difference.
i've seen quite a bit of critisism of his talent evaluation skills on this post but more of his draft picks over the last 4 years have been hits than misses.
i for one have never questioned Andy's drafting ability. He is GREAT at that. pretty much the whole team we have right now, if not all was brought in my him via trade/draft/ or FA. He def knows how to evaluate players. Only big miss i can see that he has on his career is Freddie Mitchell. Especially when there was players still in the draft named Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, and Chad Johnson. When you look at the birds on paper they are damn good. So for it not to transfer onto the field usually points back to the coaching staff. Not just Andy, but all of them. I thknk Andy is a good coach, not a great coach. There has been countless times where he has left you scratching your head. But like i said on a nother topic, I really dont think he has to go for the Eagles to be successfull. Fire Marty bring in a new OC, and have Andy stay the hell away from anything that has to do with play calling. Andy+Mary=Disaster. I really thought they changed last yr. The last few games of the yr and also into the playoffs, they were calling GREAT games. Right calls at right times...this yr, they are back to their old ways.
"lets get something straight. andy reid has more football knowledge in his moustach hair than u could ever hope to gain in a life time that's why he is a head coach and that's why he will be the Eagles coach for years to come."
This quote would have been great 5 years ago because everyone would believe you, but not now. His vast knowledge of football as you say, is not the reason why he will be here for years. Andy Reid's successful team career record has made a lot of money for Jeffery Lurie and made his stock option called the Eagles franchise triple in value, and as long as he can will his team to the playoffs every year, he will continue to be the Eagles head coach, whether he wins the Super Bowl or not.
u fair weather fans are funny, so when the birds go on a win streak in the next couple of weeks (which they will). i'm sure all the cry baby fans who have been complaining about how reid isn't good enough and mcnabb is too old will be singing their high praises once again. i always say this about andy reid, do you know how the Steelers won a championship with bill cowher? the rooney family stuck with him because he had more winning seasons than lossing and they believed in team continuity. which jeff lurie also believes in and i respect the fact that even though the team has been close and not made it to the superbowl several time he recognizes the sucsess and not just the failure in that.
"u fair weather fans are funny, so when the birds go on a win streak in the next couple of weeks (which they will). i'm sure all the cry baby fans who have been complaining about how reid isn't good enough and mcnabb is too old will be singing their high praises once again."
Wow, so I'm a fair weather fan now? How interesting. I just call it like I see it and as far as me singing Andy Reid's praises, well that won't happen until he wins the Super Bowl and that's what the majority of the fans in this city want...a Super Bowl victory. If you are happy with just getting to playoffs and losing because of boneheaded playcalling among other problems then god bless you, but I would like to see a team build up from the previous year, if you lose the first game, then except you to win the first game and move on to the second game, the next year get to the Conference Championship then the next year the Super Bowl, etc. etc. etc. This team has lost 5 Conference games under Reid even though they should have won those games because they were the better team, that doesn't sit well with me.
Now you mentioned the Steelers, the Rooney family did the right thing by sticking with Bill Cowher, the Pittsburgh had a nasty defense and a bulldozer for a runningback, so I can see why the Roonies kept the faith in him, but do you really want to compare the Eagles team to the Pittsburgh Steelers? Do you really want to go there? Even when the Eagles had their best team under Andy Reid (2004), the Steelers crushed them and showed them what real team looks like as they marched up the field and scored a TD with 10 consecutive running plays in the opening drive and the Eagles knew they were running the ball and still couldn't stop them! So I would have faith in Cowher too, but Andy Reid's stumbling bumbling offenses and questionable decisions during the heat of the games over the years has led me to believe that he's not as great of a football mind as many like YOU think he is. That is not being a fair weather fan, that's just calling it like it is.
I've been an Eagles fan since I can remember watching the games when I was about 5 (over 3 1/2 decades ago). Reid isn't going to go anywhere because Lurie is counting the dollars as people fill the seats every single game. Reid and the Eagles will probably make the playoffs, probably win a game or two but it will end with Reid either making a coaching mistake or not being prepared for the opponent.
Reid goes back to his conservative upbringing at times. He has yet fixed the short yardage situation that has plagued him his whole career, poor time management decisions and the inability to win close games. Yes, he has an excellent record but his record is sub par when the games are within 7 points.
Not many teams can get pass the opponents 10 yard line 3 times and come up with only 9 points. Sure the Eagles made the game interesting in the end but then all the sudden the defense forgot how to stop the Chargers.
Eagles have a lot of concerns to deal with. Westbrook is one since 2 concussions in 2 consectutive games he has played is not good. The middle of the Eagles defense is patchwork at best and Asante's health is also questionable now. Akers has not exactly been reliable also, unless he is taking chip shots like the SD game.
Change for the sake of change doesn't guarantee that the Eagles will be better. If it comes down to AR vs Other, I'll take a known winner rather than "Other" any day. All people have done is bitch about AR without providing any plan to move on. Congrats Eagles fans, we sound like France.
"All people have done is ----- about AR without providing any plan to move on. Congrats Eagles fans, we sound like France."
Provide a plan??? This is just a messageboard for people to write their sports opinion, if we wrote a plan for the Eagles, do you really think they would read it or even take it into consideration? Millarben, what is your plan for the Eagles?
Provide a plan??? This is just a messageboard for people to write their sports opinion, if we wrote a plan for the Eagles, do you really think they would read it or even take it into consideration? Millarben, what is your plan for the Eagles?
My plan is to not pretend that changing our coach and QB is going to somehow lead to success. Eagles are 6-4 with a makeshift o-line, line backers, and now d-backs. Yes lets fire AR. Brilliant sports opinions.
Every time the Eagles lose two games in a row, people start this inane banter about getting rid of AR year after year after year. I think I've had enough.
Now if someone wanted to get rid of AR for say Bill Cowher or a new offensive scheme, then maybe there is something to talk about.
do you know how the Steelers won a championship with bill cowher?Yes, they got rid of their highly inaccurate and "cave under pressure" QB and then drafted a tough, accurate, "come thru in the clutch" QB. Oh, and they run the ball, thats how they won. That whole Rooney family explanation was touching though~!
"Now if someone wanted to get rid of AR for say Bill Cowher or a new offensive scheme, then maybe there is something to talk about."
Ummm millarben, there has been talk of other coaches that we would like to see on this team, where were you when this was being discussed? Bill Cowher was mentioned, so was Mike Shanahan and Jon Gruden too.
I'm not one of those fans that sit on the fence and say the Eagles are the greatest when they win and bury them when they lose, so I'm part of that group you mentioned, but I do question Andy Reid when he makes decisions that hurt the team. I've come to the conclusion that Andy Reid is Jeffery Lurie's meal ticket and he will be here as long as Lurie is the owner, so I can only root for the Eagles win regardless of my opinion of Reid's playmaking decisions, I personally don't blame Reid for everything, but he does deserve SOME of the blame.
I've come to the conclusion that Andy Reid is Jeffery Lurie's meal ticket and he will be here as long as Lurie is the owner,
You may be right, I think it's rather short sighted of Lurie if he actually thinks this.
so I can only root for the Eagles win regardless of my opinion of Reid's playmaking decisions, I personally don't blame Reid for everything, but he does deserve SOME of the blame.
No doubt, but some posters offer nothing but get rid of Reid. There are a couple other posts with some good debate on them, just not his one. lol
I just call it like I see it and as far as me singing Andy Reid's praises, well that won't happen until he wins the Super Bowl and that's what the majority of the fans in this city want...a Super Bowl victory. If you are happy with just getting to playoffs and losing because of boneheaded playcalling among other problems then god bless you, but I would like to see a team build up from the previous year, if you lose the first game, then except you to win the first game and move on to the second game, the next year get to the Conference Championship then the next year the Super Bowl, etc. etc. etc. This team has lost 5 Conference games under Reid even though they should have won those games because they were the better team, that doesn't sit well with me.
