When the Packers drafted Brian Brohm in the late second round last year, there was a mini surge in BROHMania. Predictions flew that Rodgers was no good and that the Packers took Brohm because they didn't have confidence in Rodgers... according to posters on this site and others, Brohm would be the starter in GB before the end of Rodgers' first disastrous season. Only, Brohm couldn't beat out Matt Flynn, taken in the 7th round of the same draft. Packers fans, and no-doubt Packers coaches, watched with amazement as Brohm could not grasp the pro game or pro speed. He appeared to hesitate on every throw, suffered from happy feat, overthrew receivers frequently and seemed unable to throw any kind of spiral. He wound up buried on the depth chart.
This spring, there was no talk of Brohm replacing Rodgers, but there was considerable excitement that Brohm might be able to come out, shake of an unexpectedly poor rookie season and re-establish himself as a potential NFL starter. Visions of Matt Hasselbeck returned and there was optimism that Brohm could at least wind up as solid trade-bait. But by the end of camp, he had shown no measureable improvement from the previous year. Some started saying that he'd be a good candidate to be released by the Packers. When that did happen, not one team of the other 31 claimed him. The Packers signed him to the practice squad, but that should not be confused as a sign that the Packers thought he was likely to turn it around. Had they had that opinion, they never would have cut him. Brohm made sense on the practice squad only because he already knew the Packers offense, not because they envisioned him as a starter. In fact, due to injury, the Packers had plenty of opportunity to elevate Brohm, but instead chose to sign such big names as WRs Jake Allen and Biren Ealy.
The fact that Brohm sat on the Packers practice squad for 2 months before being signed by an NFL team tells you all you need to know about his chances of making it as an NFL starter anytime in the immediate future.
Great post Packer fan, I will completely agree with you, however, I think we both know that Brohm was not going to unseat Rodgers. I think his ability is still untested, and he suffered from a bit of culture shock on how different the professional game is. I think with a good coach, he will flourish as an NFL QB. He has a very strong arm and can beat you with his feet.
I am convinced even without the experience, that he is a better QB than Trent Edwards, and being that the Bills season is all but over again. Hopefully he will get in there, and get some experience and start to learn the pace of the game, and maybe he can get the ball down the field, which the Bills so desparately need.
Not bad. As a Bills fan, I can see why they brought him in. Supposedly the next big thing, he turned into a project. The Bills took him only to either motivate Fitzpatrick/Edwards or to throw him in before the season ends (which is NOT a good idea, since I agree with you). Obviously, a Packer fan like yourself has 1st hand vision to Brohm's progression, or lack thereof. On that draft day, I was confused as to why they took Brohm in the 1st place (a backup QB in the 2nd round? Ted Thompson knows better than that).
Unfortunately, the fans here in Buffalo are QB hungry, and will want to see Brohm in action before the year ends. This team hasn't had a consistently winning QB since 1999, when the Doug Flutie era was coming to a close. That was also our last trip to the playoffs. Unwarranted pressure may end up bouncing Brohm from the NFL as a whole, if he is forced into action, falters and the Bills fans let the boos rain. It hurts a QB's psyche.
Basically, you drove it home. I'm receiving the message, and outlaying that the worst has yet to come...
It seems like you are taking it personal that the Bills pulled off a coup?
Not at all but it was a great idea that I thought of yesterday and was shocked it came to fruition today. For GB you have a good young QB, for Buffalo we have NOTHING - Edwards sucks and is a total bust.
What did the Bills have to lose? Before Dick was too afraid to hurt Trent's feelings - poor thing. It seems like the kid gloves have come off and that is all we can ask for as fans is to try something.
No one thought it would be a big deal when GB got Favre from Atlanta who was fat, lazy, drunk and out of shape because he was depressed by not playing but that seemed to work out ok until recently. I think he is a tool for the way he treated all of you and I cannot imagine Jim Kelly ever acting like that so I feel bad for all of you with that crud.
Again there is nothing to lose, nowhere to go but up - just try
How much do the Packers like Flynn? I'll tell you, Flynn is a guy that has a shot. Coming in, it seemed doubtful he'd ever make it past an NFL practice squad, but Brohm's failure left the door wide open for Flynn and he's taken advantage. The most striking thing about Flynn is that he has the perfect temperment to be a starting NFL QB. And that makes a difference... I mean, talent can't make up for guys with the mental state of JaMarcus Russell, Rex Grossman, Vince Young, or JP Losman. Flynn has a quality like some of those other QB's that are just winners, and nobody can figure out why, like Jeff Garcia or Doug Flutie. Chris Mortensen once said of Garcia, "Garcia plays like he always has something to prove, and usually proves it." I think Flynn has that same quality. He's confident without being arrogant. He knows he has a chance and is working hard to improve himself (so different from a lot of second stringers that want to get on the field to "show what I can do."... Flynn believes in himself, but knows he has a long way to go and a lot to work on). All accounts are that Flynn is a natural leader.
Now, I'm not saying that if Rodgers goes down that Flynn takes the Packers to the Super Bowl. But I do believe that in 3 or 4 years he'll have a chance to compete for a starting job somewhere and I wouldn't be at all suprised to see him win it.
patscheat (love your name),
No one thought it would be a big deal when GB got Favre from Atlanta. The only thing Favre and Brohm have in common is a five-letter last name that seems unaware of phonetics. The Packers gave up a first-round pick for Favre... Brohm was free for the taking... Hello? Oakland? Cleveland? Washington? Nobody wanted him until now.
I think he is a tool for the way he treated all of you and I cannot imagine Jim Kelly ever acting like that Thanks, though, for pointing out one of my frustrations with Favre... Jim Kelly would never have gone to the Dolphins. He was a classy player... one of the all-time greats and a guy forever tied to the Bills. I wish Favre had had Kelly's class.
As a neighbor of Brian in GB- he's a nice guy and I wish him and the Bills all the best.
As a Packer fan, it's not a big loss. I can understand from his college career why the Pack picked him in the 2nd round but what I saw of him in 2 Training Camps and pre-seasons wasn't impressive at all.
I hope the change of scenery is good for him, but I'm not holding my breath for him to suddenly become even a servicable NFL quarterback.
The story seems to say that GB tried to offer Brohm a contract and a roster spot so he would not go to Buffalo. I take that to mean the organization wasn't completely soured on him (unless Thompson is just trying to save face for the wasted 2nd round pick). I do find it surprising that someone did not take a chance on Brohm sooner. That's not a real good sign but it still makes sense for Buffalo to bring him in as a third QB and see if he has anything to offer.
Packers fans talk smack yet..Brian turned down an offer from GB to move on and they HATE that! HAHAH LOL! Thank God Brian never played for the pathetic fudge Packers. With that O-Line I'm surprised Aaron Rodgers isn't in a coma!
So, according to hqic, Matt Flynn is a better quarterback (whos never played a game in the NFL mind you) than Vince Young who was 30-2 in college, 8-5 his rookie year, led the Titans to the playoffs in 07, and is undefeated this year. Also, Flynn is apparently better than Rex Grossman who led the Bears to a Super Bowl appearance. If my memory serves me correct, wasnt Matt Flynn JaMarcus Russell's backup?
Most of the stuff in this post is inacurate and there is absolutely no proof to any of it. That may be YOUR opinion, but if the Packers felt that way, why did they make him an offer?
Dont disrespect Brett Farve he came there and shit**** all over the Packers.. He is better now then Aaron Rogers ever will be.. Brett became a drug addict for the Packers so dont act likee brett Farve wasnt owed something in Green Bay because he was he played with broken bones death of family members and birth of kids so what are u talking about by disrespect if i were the owner of green bay i would have a seat for Farve in my office so he could do whatever he wanted.. They tried to buy Farve out how disrespectful is that " here brett ur old and here is 25 million to go retire??? gtf outta here with that.. Jim Kelly never won a ring for his team Farve did and the Dolphins had one of the best qb's that ever lived they wouldnt take Kelly because the dolphins are loyal to there players.. look at Ricky Williams thats a prime example right there Green Bay kicks u in the nuts as soon as they get the chance.. Ahmed Green, Bubba Franks Antonio Freeman, and the list goes on for payers that wanted to play and stay but they werent allowed to because of there age even though they put fans in the stands for Green Bay Lambo leap??? i wonder who made that popular.. I think that Brett Farve can piss all over u cheese head fans for all ur disrespect of Brett Farve cause he wanted to play now look at ur shit****ty ass team Aaron Rodgers looks like a dear in headlights with that poor excuse for an offencive line. You all wish u had him back now and wish you had his record as well.. Warren moon played until he was like 50 and wasnt no where near as good as Farve.. He should have never said he would retire I understand that point because u wasted a draft pick and could have gotten help but right now who could Green Bay have gotten if they did go out and get him some help??? who would be Your qb of the future then?? exactley u dont know.. Aaron Rodgers is far from a bumb but there is no way u can put him on Brett's level ... The guy gets a sprained ankle and they dont know if he is going to play u knew if Brett had his arm and leg broke he was playing no matter what... Learn some respect there are 30 other teams in the league that wished they still had a Brett Farve.. I am a Colts fan and i always new Peyton was great and i know are team is going to miss him when he is gone i know it we wont have another Peyton for years decades at that i was a fan when John Elway refused to play for us.. Do people think Elway is scum?
Most of the stuff in this post is inacurate and there is absolutely no proof to any of it. See, that's kind of funny. It isn't just my opinion, and there is plenty of proof.
Until the Bills came a long, no NFL front office was willing to sign Brohm. Want more proof? Check out an article on packersnews.com from September 5, when Brohm was cut. In the article titled, "Thompson Clears Roster of Draft Duds," columnist Mike Vandermause starts with this sentence:
Brian Brohm will go down as the Green Bay Packers’ worst second-round draft choice in the past four decades. Want more proof? Pop in a tape of any preseason game in which Brohm has played and watch. It's painful. The proof is right there, in color. Also, there are reports that the Packers made Brohm an offer that included moving him to the 53-man roster. However, according to Packers sources, which seem to be better than those on this site, they did NOT match the offer that the Bills gave him. In other words, they didn't go out of their way to keep him and I'm pretty certain that if the Packers thought Brohm was the next Peyton Manning, they wouldn't have tried to hide him on their practice squad... just goin' with the odds.
Also if Buffalo is really desperate they could go after quarterbacks that are not on any team because they got cut. They are as Follows:
Players Name Matt Baker Brock Berlin Todd Boeckman Brooks Bollinger Todd Bouman Alex Brink Chris Crane Chase Daniel Adam DiMichele Jeff Garcia Gibran Hamdan Joey Harrington Damon Huard Cleo Lemon Ingle Martin Alex Mortensen Tyler Palko Chris Pizzotti Patrick Ramsey Jeff Rowe D.J. Shockley Paul Smith Andrew Walter Drew Willy
So, according to hqic, Matt Flynn is a better quarterback (whos never played a game in the NFL mind you) than Vince Young who was 30-2 in college, 8-5 his rookie year, led the Titans to the playoffs in 07, and is undefeated this year. Actually, he never said he was better: was talking about Flynn's "mental state". Given that Young has a propensity for sulking, getting depressed and taking adversity with difficulty, I'd say he wasn't far off. If you want to talk about starts and wins ans whatnot, I'm sure you're right, but that wasn't the topic.
I think Flynn has that same quality. He's confident without being arrogant. He knows he has a chance Tell me about it. With the way our O-line is playing, Rodgers is bound for a date with a hospital bed sooner than later. Flynn had better be ready.
