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Why Wright would be a mistake

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Why Wright would be a mistake

December 28, 2011 11:24 pm

http://www.thegoodphight.com/2011/1
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In short, he is horrifically overrated and he hasn't been a star since 2008. From the article:
 
Two observations. (1) Wright can't field anymore. He's terrible. While advanced defensive metrics are imprecise, in Wright's case he's put up terrible numbers for three straight years from both of the leading measurement systems. It's pretty clear that he stinks out there. (2) His strikeouts are way up. We all know that striking out a lot isn't necessarily such a bad thing, because you can make up for it by walking a lot and hitting a lot of homers. But Wright's sharp increase in K's hasn't been accompanied by any corresponding increase in walks or power. If anything, his power has gone down over the same time. If the same guy's strikeouts increase while holding all other things equal, then that really is necessarily a bad thing.
phil-e-phan
SinceOct 4, 2006
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Why Wright would be a mistake

December 29, 2011 7:58 am

Anyone who has watched the guy play over the past 2 or 3 seasons knows this. I don't know if it was the beaning or the new ballpark but he's a shell of his former self. Once you lose it you seldom get it back. Such a shame.
67RedSox
SinceSep 15, 2007
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Why Wright would be a mistake

December 29, 2011 9:41 am

I agree. They want the Moon and Stars for him too, making it even worse. If acquiring him was JUST a salary move, it still wouldn't be the best move for us as a team ..

He is simply not the player he once was.
ItsJustJake
SinceApr 6, 2007
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Why Wright would be a mistake

December 29, 2011 11:24 am

the only thing we ever got from the Mests that was any good was Lenny Dyksrta, and he was a cheater!
winsumbuc
SinceJul 17, 2008
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Why Wright would be a mistake

December 29, 2011 11:25 am

The only thing we ever got from the Mets thats was any good was Lenny Dykstra, and he was a cheater!
winsumbuc
SinceJul 17, 2008
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Why Wright would be a mistake

December 29, 2011 11:25 am

Whoops!
winsumbuc
SinceJul 17, 2008
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Why Wright would be a mistake

December 29, 2011 11:26 am

....forgot about the Tugger.....
winsumbuc
SinceJul 17, 2008
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Why Wright would be a mistake

December 30, 2011 1:46 pm

Cmon, we got Rico Brogna from the Mets.

I think Wright is still a good player. I don't think he's fully healthy and he's pressing too much. I don't think he's a franchise type that you can count on to hoist on a team on his back. The move to CitiField definitely did not help him either. I think you would see a large improvement in his numbers if he played for the Phillies, though.

The cost to get him would be insanely high, not to mention the large dollars he'd cost in a contract. So I do agree he's not worth it. I really don't think the Mets have any choice but to keep him. They'd have to sell him for 50 cents on the dollar, and no way could they do that after letting Reyes walk.
Scuba061
SinceJul 29, 2009
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Why Wright would be a mistake

December 30, 2011 2:36 pm

I think you would see a large improvement in his numbers if he played for the Phillies, though.
Even his park adjusted numbers have plummeted. He isn't the same guy, he isn't really even an upgrade er Polanco and he is a freaking rental. 
phil-e-phan
SinceOct 4, 2006
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Why Wright would be a mistake

December 31, 2011 12:32 am

Yes, but I also said I think it's more than just the park. He hasn't been the same since being beaned. I also think he's pressing and is not suited to be "the guy". His swing isn't nearly as smooth as it was after leaving Shea as well. I really think he screwed himself up to adjust to the park. His swing has more lift to it than it used to because he's trying to force home runs rather than letting them come naturally. These factors are attributable to his slide as well. It's only going to get worse for him now that Reyes is gone. He needs a fresh start somewhere else.

I actually think he'd be a decent fit here since he wouldn't have to be "the guy". However, the cost to acquire him would be outrageous, and he would be extremely overpaid. Given those factors, I would never touch him.
Scuba061
SinceJul 29, 2009
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Why Wright would be a mistake

December 31, 2011 8:57 pm

Someone said it, and it is the truth......He just hasn't been the same since his beaning.
winsumbuc
SinceJul 17, 2008
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Why Wright would be a mistake

January 1, 2012 7:29 pm

A better title for this thread would have been "Why Wright Would Be Wrong".
J-Roll 11
SinceDec 11, 2006
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Why Wright would be a mistake

January 3, 2012 12:12 pm

Definitely not worth trading for him...long term plan now that there are no 3rd basemen available next year...pick up polanco and wiggingtons options...after 2013 let both walk and utley...hope Nationals don't give zimmerman the big extension he is due for.  Sign zimmerman...move rollins to 2nd...hope galvis bat catches up to his glove. 

philsfan77
SinceFeb 12, 2007
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Why Wright would be a mistake

January 5, 2012 6:23 pm

The asking price is way too high for Wright however I think that he would be an upgrade over Polanco.  There are questions if Polanco will even be ready for the start of the season and looking at similar injuries it takes a lot out of the player esp a player who is aging like Polanco is.  Don't get me wrong I like Polanco as a player and def. love his glove however if someone gave me the choice of Wright or Polanco i'd take Wright everyday.  
E POLICE183
SinceNov 3, 2010
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Why Wright would be a mistake

January 5, 2012 9:54 pm

from the recent mlb.com article by Todd Zolecki:

Placido Polanco (sports hernia surgery) told Amaro recently he feels great and believes he will be ready to go 100 percent by Spring Training. Hunter Pence (sports hernia surgery) also is expected to be ready for Spring Training. Cole Hamels (surgery to remove loose bodies in left elbow) is throwing and feels fine.

The full article can be found on the official Phillies website.  It's titled "Howard cleared by doctor to begin exercises".
Ognir
SinceJul 10, 2008
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Why Wright would be a mistake

January 5, 2012 10:03 pm

Don't get me wrong I like Polanco as a player and def. love his glove however if someone gave me the choice of Wright or Polanco i'd take Wright everyday.  
If you're factoring their salaries into that decision you are certifiable. 
phil-e-phan
SinceOct 4, 2006
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Why Wright would be a mistake

January 6, 2012 12:02 am

Once again why you WE care what a player is paid?  It's not our money and so far money hasn't been an issue with the Phillies.  Until I hear "we can't sign X player or extend Y because we have so much money tied up in Z player" then I could careless what someone makes.  Also to be honest 5.5m and 6plus for a guy to play an avg of 125gms is overpaid, esp when that player hits under .250 for half of the season...if you take out his torrid April (which one could say is the least meaningful part of the year, i tend to disagree but i hear that all the time) he hit .242 for the rest of the year...which was by far the worst on the team in the span.  Don't even have to mention that his playoffs were as bad as his April was good.  
E POLICE183
SinceNov 3, 2010
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Why Wright would be a mistake

January 6, 2012 3:22 am

first line should read "Once again why would WE care what a player is paid?"
E POLICE183
SinceNov 3, 2010
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Why Wright would be a mistake

January 6, 2012 9:39 pm

Once again why you WE care what a player is paid?  It's not our money and so far money hasn't been an issue with the Phillies.
Becuase it affects the ability of this team to make moves whether you want to admit it or not. 

Until I hear "we can't sign X player or extend Y because we have so much money tied up in Z player" then I could careless what someone makes.
Well, here you go:

In the Hunter Pence trade the Astros probably got Santana offered as the PTBNL by throwing in the money.

In the Oswalt they certainly got better value for the Phillies needing them to throw in the money.

In the Roy Halladay deal..... it happened again. And they got probably the best catching prospects in baseball. 


It has hurt this team long term because we need money at the time, and have to give value up in the form of prospects. Not to mention the Howard contract makes him untradable hurting our leverage in trading Singleton and pretty much leaving a black hole in our lineup, and the Ibanez contract was the only reason he started so much this year when he was THE WORST PLAYER IN BASBEALL.


It matters. I know you're a rose glasses homer thru and thru, but you're just being plain ignorant right now. 




phil-e-phan
SinceOct 4, 2006
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Why Wright would be a mistake

January 7, 2012 9:27 pm

Do you wanna touch on the fact that Polanco was horrible last year or is that me being a homer as well?
E POLICE183
SinceNov 3, 2010