After Analyzing our potential draft...

Go Skins! Trade Down! 

Also, Qwik, please find (outside of the "barely acknowledged" OP here ) examples, because you are wrong about me being "the guy to bring up race" (except for the MORE THAN OBVIOUS fake comic post about an All White Team) 

Heck, with Tanahill's foot injury, he may be available in the second round now. Also, who tweeted this morning Payton Manning was going to be a redskin officially? It was on the radio, but it was bunk. 

http://bostinno.com/2012/01/13/coul
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Here's the link to Payton Manning and Jeff Saturday to the skins, it's bunk. I would hate to find out what they'd give up for them, and it would be so typical Redskins.

RGIII or bust!

We're already Bust, can you be Double Bust? You sure can if you're Denise Milani or Jordan Carver :)

Who?

The fact that you choose to ignore the allegations of racism

You can package it however you want, saying somone made allegations of racism, is calling them racist. At least that is the way I see it. I too have heard on different venues that Mike Shanahan does not like the black QB's but I think what they actually meant by that was the run first as opposed ot pocket passing black QB's, but I could be wrong. Of course if nothing else that is an ignorant opinion because at the best it is stereotypical, and at worst of course, racist byt those radio heads. That would explain why he got Mcnabb even thugh he is black, because over the last several years of his career he became more of a pocket passer than runner.

Lest I be labled a racist, I can honestly say until the heismann discussions started I didn't even know RGIII was black because I didn't pay much attention to Baylor football. I heard his name and that he was good, but that is it. I have to defer to the Texas guy that says he is not arrogant because the few times I have seen him speak to a reporter, he was pretty full of himself. of course maybe I would be too if I had just won somethign and someone tried to interview me whil still in the moment. Plus I don't hold arrogance against a QB unless he can't back it up like Sanchez. I think QB's are like boxers in that they have to believe they are the best or they can't really be effective.

I would be happy with anyone who was smart enough, or actually can think and react quickly enough to get through two or three reads and throw the ball. I really have no idea if Griffin is that guy or not. I have seen a little more of some of the other QB's and there are a few of them that seem to have that intangible. I really think that was Campbells and Becks problem. they think too slow. Rex makes as many reads as he has time for, but then always goes for the deepest guy, for a possible int, when the safe screen or 5 yard pass is almost always there. I want a guy that makes the 5 yard pass to keep the chains moving of that is the right play and the long guy is covered.

You keeping saying Shanny doesn't trust the black QB
well i know i dont think that. i DO think that if Matt Barkley and/or Landry Jones were in this draft he would take them over RG3 based on them being better fits, BUT i think he will take RG3, but i dont see him coming here and i will get into this later.
RG3 is actually just the kind of QB that excels in the Shanny Sr. system, a mobile QB with a strong arm. The problem is when aren't getting Shanny Sr. system we're getting Shanny Jr. and maybe RG3 might not be right for his.
i agree, RG3 is the kind of QB that excels in his system, i dont think he's the perfect fit for Shanny Jr.'s system either, BUT with that said, if he's on the board and we dont sign a QB, he's coming here, but with that said, my fear and thinking is that RG3 will be a Cleveland Brown. the Browns have the 4th pick, we have the 6th and they for some reason want a QB even though they dont need one badly right now.

i agree, RG3 is the kind of QB that excels in his system, i dont think he's the perfect fit for Shanny Jr.'s system either, BUT with that said, if he's on the board and we dont sign a QB, he's coming here, but with that said, my fear and thinking is that RG3 will be a Cleveland Brown. the Browns have the 4th pick, we have the 6th and they for some reason want a QB even though they dont need one badly right now.

I don't know what to make of RG3. I've heard he's a great player on the field and a great person off the field. That's all well and good, but I've also heard that he spend his whole college career in the shotgun and was never required to read defense's. Was that because he couldn't do it or because that's just the type of system he played in?

The same thing was said about Newton, but he did well with reading things. Of course, he ran a lot and so the verdict is out on whether he can ever be a true stand in the pocket type passer.

RGIII might very well be able to make the same transition, but I don't want us to trade up for him. I'd give up a bunch of picks and players for Luck, but not for RG3.

So as far as I'm concerned, we sit tight at #6 and see if he drops to us. If he does, take him. If he doesn't, draft Claibourne or Blackmon or trade down. Then we take Tanninhil or even Russell Wilson later on in the draft. Wilson is a gamer. He's not tall, but he makes play and throws a pretty ball. Not sure how he'll do in the NFL, but he is impressive from every standpoint except his height.

The browns would be smarter to trade up to #2 and take Blackmon or sit tight and take Richardson the RB. They need both, but really need a true #1 WR. Nobody will know if Colt McCoy can do anything until they give him someone to throw the ball to. His TE's were his best receivers. Unless you have 2 like the Pats do, you better find some WR's. Then you can make a true evaluation about him.

I still think we make a major play for Flynn and if we don't get him, we sign somebody like Orton to hold the reigns until the rookie QB is ready.

BTW Does anyone know when FA starts? I've looked, but cant' find anything about it.

Look at Cam Newton and the offense he ran at Auburn and how he transitioned to the NFL.  It doesn't really matter, if the guy wants to succeed he will put in the time and effort to succeed, I really don't pay any attention to the people that talk about what kind of offense people were running in college because it doesn't matter.

If we do get FLynn or Orton, then I would wait and take Ossweiller from Arizona State in the 3rd or 4th round. If we do not get a FA QB, then you have to get somone you think could start sometime early in the year and keep Rex for another year. If you need a guy to start sooner rather than a year down the line, I think you position yourself to get the Arizona kid. I am not sold on Tennehil, but I wouldn't cry about it either.

Look at Cam Newton and the offense he ran at Auburn and how he transitioned to the NFL.  It doesn't really matter, if the guy wants to succeed he will put in the time and effort to succeed, I really don't pay any attention to the people that talk about what kind of offense people were running in college because it doesn't matter.

Exactly. It doesn't matter that much if he has never taken a snap under center but as long as he shows the will and determination (Tebow style) to work and study hard, then there is a great chance he has make the transition.

His background is of being a hardworker in school and at home. That is very telling. Had Raiders done the same with Jamarcus Russell, they would have picked up his laziness way before the draft and save themselves alot of grief, money and embarrassment.
 

I don't know what to make of RG3. I've heard he's a great player on the field and a great person off the field. That's all well and good, but I've also heard that he spend his whole college career in the shotgun and was never required to read defense's. Was that because he couldn't do it or because that's just the type of system he played in?
it's more of the system they seem to run, but i am not worried about that, i mean look at Newton and how he did in the shotgun, my only issue with RG3 is his low throwing motion that's similar to Young's, but other than that, he's got alot of things i like. i liked Barkley better and still do, but RG3 is just that good in  my book.
RGIII might very well be able to make the same transition, but I don't want us to trade up for him. I'd give up a bunch of picks and players for Luck, but not for RG3.
i dont see us trading up to get him and if we did i dont see it being too much picks.
Then we take Tanninhil or even Russell Wilson later on in the draft.
i dont know about Tannehill or Wilson at all. if we get a late round flier, i want Corp.
The Browns would be smarter to trade up to #2 and take Blackmon or sit tight and take Richardson the RB. They need both, but really need a true #1 WR.
well in MY mind, they should stay at 4 and wait it out. the Rams are the Blackmon favorites, but they could also get Kalil, the Vikings will get a CB if the Rams get Matt Kalil, the Browns in my book should stay at 4 and take who's left. if it's Blackmon and Richardson, get Blackmon, but if Blackmon is gone, get Richardson.
I still think we make a major play for Flynn and if we don't get him, we sign somebody like Orton to hold the reigns until the rookie QB is ready.
i dont mind Flynn, i think he does have potential, BUT i want to avoid Orton. i rather throw the rookie in right away then play Orton who likely wont want to go to a team where he knows he's only a temporary starter.