Early Thoughts on the Cowboy Draft

You know with D backs being the greatest need....

If Kirkpatrick CB Ala - is there at the cowboy's pick at #14 it's an absolute no brainer and if the Cowboys pick someone else i think i will jump out my 4th floor window..... 

If Kirkpatrick isn't there at #14...i certainly wouldn't be adverse to the thought of Dallas trading down with NE and having 3 picks between say 30-46 and taking Poe NT and maybe Gilmore CB South Car. and Bennefileld CB if all three are available from say 30-46 late first to mid second and all mock drafts to date and yes i know that changes especially after the combine and senior bowl....... but for now in appears they will be around in that range...

Listen i am not a proponet of getting an OG in the first round.... this draft is deep in olinemen and i just don't believe we need to draft non skilled positions that early...Get your skilled position players early and i include Dline in that mainly pass rushers...

Defense should be drafted early and often this draft.....

As far as the offense goes.....I would like for the cowboys to get a starting calibur center this draft perhaps one of the top three guys if we could move up say our 3rd round pick to do so....

and for crying out loud get a quality young QB in the mid rounds.......why...because Kitna is done and Mcgee is not an NFL calibur QB if he is still with this team in two seasons i will be shocked...can you believe we made him a 4th round pick.....

outside of that defense is the name of the game that would include a pass rushing outside linebacker...NT....CB...S.....boy our safeties are a mess...Elam is a backup not a starter...McCray and Church are good on special teams but couldn't cover a cold.... and you just can't have that...... you need three good interchangeable safeties..

anyway my thoughts for now.....

your thoughts??

I know #14 is a little early for a center, but Wisconsin C Peter Konz is declaring for the draft, and they have him ranked as the best center in the country. If we could grab a solid starting CB in free agency, I could see taking him at 14 then going total D the rest of the draft. I would'nt be opposed to that at all. Having two very young star quality players to anchor that oline for years to come would just be dreamy!! Of coures if someoe like Kirkpatrick or the CB from Alabama (forget his name) is available, there is no way we pass on them. However, someone like say New England has two late first round picks, if they were willing to trade up to 14 for those two, we could take Konz, and then possibly the best remaining CB, S or DL. But I doubt Belichek is that stupid.

Sorry, I meant the CB from LSU, Kirkpatrick is the CB from Alabama!

Oline78,

Right now my wish list for that pick is CB Kirkpatrick or OLB Upshaw.  I think Upshaw is the answer we need opposite ware.  Obviously Spencer isnt the man.

I also wouldnt mind trading down for more picks.....getting one of those CBs you mentioned.  The draft is loaded with good CBs, however Safeties?  Another week class.  The only one worth a look is the one out of Alabama....and he is a SS.......but we need a FS right? 

OG looks to be pretty deep so we should get a good one 3-4-5 round.

Right now my precombine wish list:

1rnd -  CB Kirkpatrick
2rnd -  DE/NT
3rd-     OLB
4th-     S
5th-     OG/C

Listen i am not a proponet of getting an OG in the first round.... this draft is deep in olinemen and i just don't believe we need to draft non skilled positions that early...Get your skilled position players early and i include Dline in that mainly pass rushers...

Defense should be drafted early and often this draft.....

As far as the offense goes.....I would like for the Cowboys to get a starting calibur center this draft perhaps one of the top three guys if we could move up say our 3rd round pick to do so....

I agree.  Skill positions for first round Pass rusher or shutdown corner.  As far as centers, there will be some good ones in free agency like Chris Meyers, Scott Wells, and Samson Satele.  I don't know how deep the draft is for centers.  We absolutely need Dline with the one of the first two picks

BEE i was looking at centers and once you get past the top 3 or 4 its weak...free agency may be the way we have to go on center considering all of our other needs in the draft that will have to be gotten early...

Crazy, i think we are thinking pretty much the same thing...man this draft is so very important..

and for crying out loud get a quality young QB in the mid rounds.......why...because Kitna is done and Mcgee is not an NFL calibur QB if he is still with this team in two seasons i will be shocked...can you believe we made him a 4th round pick.....

You know who would be a good mid round pick for QB?  Kellen Moore from Boise St.  

I heard some good things about him

I don't think trading back to 30 will get us Poe.  I can pretty much guarantee you with Hampton going down with an ACL against Denver, the Steelers will run to the podium if he is still available when they pick.

This draft is too corner deep to go crazy with one at 14.  I think if Kirkpatrick is there we take him because he pretty much has every skill set you look for in a corner, which is why I don't think he will be there,  but otherwise, I don't think we take a corner.   These are my preferences in this order at 14:  Ingram, Kirkpatrick, Upshaw, Decastro, Poe, Konz.  

You know who would be a good mid round pick for QB?  Kellen Moore from Boise St.

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I dunno -- dude's already 28 years old. 

I don't think trading back to 30 will get us Poe.

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Maybe not. 

Cincinnati has two first-round picks (one from the Carson Palmer trade to Oakland). Get them to part with their #21 overall plus their second-rounder for our #14 overall, we'd be able to land Poe (or C Peter Konz). 

Let s trade our 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder to the Browns so the Cowboys can draft RG3.
Then, lets trade next years 1st, 2nd, 3rd so we can grab the Redskins pick and draft a WR.

Listen i am not a proponet of getting an OG in the first round.... this draft is deep in olinemen and i just don't believe we need to draft non skilled positions that early...

oline78,

 I have to disgree here. DeCastro has been compared favorably to perennial All-Pro and future Hall-of-Famer Steve Hutchinson, so to get a sure-fire athletic, intelligent, and STRONG Guard like David DeCastro to put at LG next to LT Tyron Smith is a no-brainer to me. The left side of the O-Line would be set for the next decade, and would give Tony Romo at least another SECOND per pass attempt to scan the field and deliver the ball, and imagine the holes Tyron and DeCastro would make for DeMarco Murray and Felix Jones to blast through. DeCastro would make this offense MUCH better.

 It's just my opinion, but I take DeCastro over Dre Kirkpatrick at #14, and get my DT in Rd. 2, and CB depth from rounds 3-7. That's after restructuring Newmans contract and signing both Carlos Rogers and LaRon Landry in Free Agency.

online78 wrote..... Defense should be drafted early and often this draft.....

Yes, and

online78 wrote.... Defense should be drafted early and often this draft.....

By now you know I agree, strongly.  Our O-line is very servicable, it might not be the best, but with a full summer, OTA's and a complete off-season program in place they will hold their own.

L. Robinson deserves a nice contract - he earned it - sign him now Jerry!

We did very little to improve our D this past year (we just had too many areas to be fixed).  We are in a division that has 2 very explosive offenses, the Eagles and Giants. They will continue to eat our lunch unless we can beat them up before they get down field. This year, we improved the Offense (Smith, Murray, Bailey and Robinson). This coming draft we should hammer the Defensive side of the ball.

Go Cowboys!

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Let s trade our 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder to the Browns so the Cowboys can draft RG3.
Then, lets trade next years 1st, 2nd, 3rd so we can grab the Redskins pick and draft a WR.

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BRILLIANT! 

On top of that, let's also cut Miles Austin and Jason Witten!

Listen i am not a proponet of getting an OG in the first round.... this draft is deep in olinemen and i just don't believe we need to draft non skilled positions that early...

oline78,

 I have to disgree here. DeCastro has been compared favorably to perennial All-Pro and future Hall-of-Famer Steve Hutchinson, so to get a sure-fire athletic, intelligent, and STRONG Guard like David DeCastro to put at LG next to LT Tyron Smith is a no-brainer to me. The left side of the O-Line would be set for the next decade, and would give Tony Romo at least another SECOND per pass attempt to scan the field and deliver the ball, and imagine the holes Tyron and DeCastro would make for DeMarco Murray and Felix Jones to blast through. DeCastro would make this offense MUCH better.

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Man, that's a tough call.  

I agree with Oline in that our defense is our achilles heel, and we have far more holes on that side of the ball than offense. Plus we have a couple young guards we like in Bill Nagy and David Arkin...

That said -- I can't say I'd be crushed if we took David DeCastro. Every time I read something about him the word "dominant" is used. That kind of singular talent is risky to pass up.

You know Axe the whole problem with drafting Decastro is the fact that everyone follows it up with getting some free agent d backs....i don't believe we have the cap space....especially with needing to resign Robinson, and a few others and plus i am not sure of the total effect that those signing bonuses on all of our dearly departed players....Davis, barber, williams etc.. that hit our cap this off season will effect our ability to sign a free agent or two outside of our own guys that we need to bring back.....i know we still have some cap space clean up to do thats is still left to do from the previous 4 years....we are getting close to having that under control but still i just don't think that signing carlos and delandry as a free agent is possible wiith what we have to do...and frankly aDB's, NT and another pass rusher take priorty in my book this draft